SG1 "Moeibus Pt I", SGA "The Siege Pt I"

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-03-19 12:30am

No one else noticed that Beta O'Neil had a Minnesota/Yooper/Canadian accent?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-03-19 12:32am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:No one else noticed that Beta O'Neil had a Minnesota/Yooper/Canadian accent?

He was emphasising that for comedic effect, I believe. Alpha O'Neill (TWO 'l's) has his pond and cabin in Minnesota.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2005-03-19 12:36am

CaptainChewbacca wrote:
DPDarkPrimus wrote:No one else noticed that Beta O'Neil had a Minnesota/Yooper/Canadian accent?
He was emphasising that for comedic effect, I believe. Alpha O'Neill (TWO 'l's) has his pond and cabin in Minnesota.

Well, if he lived in Minnisota, he'd probably pick up the accent.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2005-03-19 02:15am

SG-1

Like the previous three episodes, the first half of the season finale could easily serve as a series finale for SG-1. The episode brings it back to where it all began, from the return and deaths of past characters (Davis, Hammond, Catherine Langford, and Ra himself), artifacts (The Ra medallion, the Horus Jaffa armor), and even musical themes (I shouted with glee when Ra's movie theme came on).

SG-A
It's amazing how you can hate a series at the start of the season and grow to like it as time goes on. This is what has happened with me and SG-A. I liked the revelations, Shep's humor, and the real sense of despair and the possibility that the Atlantis team won't surrive (though we know they're coming back next season

).

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2005-03-19 02:22am

Aya wrote:
CaptainChewbacca wrote:How much you guys wanna bet the reason that Ra took the gate was because O'Neill made the uprising a bit more... unpleasant?
Yeah, when I saw the previews for this episode last week, I realized that SG-1 might have had a hand in the rebellion.

I hope they don't do something cheesy and make it so that it was destined for SG-1 and company to go back in time and lead the rebellion against the goa'uld.

SGA was pretty good. And they killed Grodin. Did not see that coming. Well, not until they left him on the station and I knew from the preview that it gets blown up.

Bates is getting weird. On the one hand, I don't want to like him. On the other hand, he does make good points and is useful.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-03-19 02:37am

Due to how Timetravel appears to work, predestiny has nothing to do with it.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2005-03-19 03:06am

Alyeska wrote:Due to how Timetravel appears to work, predestiny has nothing to do with it.

From a few episodes ago in SGA Weir went back in time in the previous timeline to set things up for what happened in the episode. Since we see the results of those actions, it seemed like it must mean that at some point Weir went back in time. Even if it isn't the same Weir that exists now.

Maybe not predestiny, but more like things that will happen in the past are known to have happened because their consequences are already felt in the future.

Styphon · Post by **Styphon** » 2005-03-19 03:07am

on the other hand, an infinite loop (the rebellion happened because of SG-1, SG-1 went back to that time period because the rebellion was about to happen anyway, and so forth) is rather implied by the episode title...

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2005-03-19 03:13am

StarshipTitanic wrote:
UCBooties wrote:hmm, the last satelite was 15 hours away too, think they were all set in about that range?
McKay said they were in Lagrange points. Assuming that the Atlantis planet is Earth-sized, we could find some figures on the puddlejumper's max acceleration. The satellite is likely at the L1 or L2 point. The jumper would have accelerated half the way, then decelerated the other half.

Yup, it was another planet in the solar system, and it wasnt very Earth-like at all.

Also puddlejumper's deceleration is incredible, they went from orbital speeds(or what ever speed they pull when going from land->orbit) to a complete stop through the gate in less than a metre or so.

Plus with the interia manipulation technology we know the puddlejumpers have, this will significantly distort the relevance of any acceleration figures we can derive.

Xon · Post by **Xon** » 2005-03-19 03:14am

Styphon wrote:on the other hand, an infinite loop (the rebellion happened because of SG-1, SG-1 went back to that time period because the rebellion was about to happen anyway, and so forth) is rather implied by the episode title...

Stargate time travel doesnt look to work that way.

SG-1 didnt need to go back because a version of them has already gone back. Same with Wier in Atlantis.

Jason von Evil · Post by **Jason von Evil** » 2005-03-19 04:35am

How did SG-1 get a puddle jumper anyways? I missed a bunch of season eight eps.

Old Plympto · Post by **Old Plympto** » 2005-03-19 04:58am

Aya wrote:How did SG-1 get a puddle jumper anyways? I missed a bunch of season eight eps.

They found it on that planet where they left Maybourne. Used the jumper's squiddy drones to kill a Ha'Tak that belonged to Ares, a minor System Lord, whose chief Jaffa looks suspicisously like Wayne Brady.

Zed Snardbody · Post by **Zed Snardbody** » 2005-03-19 05:10am

I completely missed the episode and the encore. Can someone point me in the direction foa good synopsis, and or tell me when Sci Fi airs an encore this comming week?

Master of Cards · Post by **Master of Cards** » 2005-03-19 07:13am

Did anyone see the Vemda(sp) in Sam the skirts the glasses her voice

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-03-19 10:10am

Something to consider. Since we know from next weeks advertisements the new SG1 goes back in time, can someone tell me how many PJs the corrected future timeline will recieve as a result? Remember, time capsules.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-19 11:18am

Okay, starting with SG-alpha...

We have one puddle-jumper, with the time equipment. They go back to ancient Egypt, and end up leaving it there.

In the future, SG-beta finds it, and (presumably) uses it to get back to the past.

This makes two jumpers, together-- the SG-beta one, and the SG-alpha one.

Now, presuming that SG-alpha and SG-beta manage to use the jumper to return to the future.... er....

*head hurts*

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2005-03-19 11:21am

Elheru Aran wrote:Now, presuming that SG-alpha and SG-beta manage to use the jumper to return to the future.... er....

*head hurts*

That's what I didn't like about the episode. Why wasn't the original team try to warn their past selves about their hiding place after Ra left? Ra left the jumper behind.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-19 11:24am

StarshipTitanic wrote:
Elheru Aran wrote:Now, presuming that SG-alpha and SG-beta manage to use the jumper to return to the future.... er....

*head hurts*
That's what I didn't like about the episode. Why wasn't the original team try to warn their past selves about their hiding place after Ra left? Ra left the jumper behind.

No, the problem is, the two SG-teams, and the two jumpers will be together, so how do they resolve this paradox....... take separate jumpers back or what???

And no. no spoilers. thankyouverymuch....

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2005-03-19 11:25am

Elheru Aran wrote:Okay, starting with SG-alpha...

We have one puddle-jumper, with the time equipment. They go back to ancient Egypt, and end up leaving it there.

In the future, SG-beta finds it, and (presumably) uses it to get back to the past.

This makes two jumpers, together-- the SG-beta one, and the SG-alpha one.

Now, presuming that SG-alpha and SG-beta manage to use the jumper to return to the future.... er....

*head hurts*

Would this mean they have a way to replicate stuff? Say, another couple of ZPMs.

Elheru Aran · Post by **Elheru Aran** » 2005-03-19 11:45am

neoolong wrote: Would this mean they have a way to replicate stuff? Say, another couple of ZPMs.

Too many paradoxes inherent in that. BAD... not only for the situation they're in, but also for the story. While they could work it, I doubt it'd turn out too well...

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2005-03-19 12:20pm

Remember, the original time travel team stayed behind. If alternate future goes back in time to fix things, they ALSO stay back in time.

Remember, for every time travel, an additional Jumper is added. So if our alternate future SG1 can go back in time and correct things in the first try, the SGC gets three Puddle Jumpers out of the whole thing. The original found offworld, the first time capsule left by the first time travel SG1, and the second time capsule left by the alternate SG1.

Now here is where things get really interesting.

Puddle Jumper #1 is say 500 years old. PJ#2 is 5,500 years old. PJ#3 is 10,500 years old.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-03-19 01:31pm

This is going to get very Bill & Tedd if we end up with a team of 4 Daniels, 5 Sams, 3 Jacks, and a cuple of Teal'cs.

OTOH, it'd be pants-shitting funny.

Darth Sephiroth · Post by **Darth Sephiroth** » 2005-03-19 01:48pm

CaptainChewbacca wrote:This is going to get very Bill & Tedd if we end up with a team of 4 Daniels, 5 Sams, 3 Jacks, and a cuple of Teal'cs.

OTOH, it'd be pants-shitting funny.

And just plain wierd

Typhonis 1 · Post by **Typhonis 1** » 2005-03-19 02:31pm

OK..so how would SG Command be able to help Atlanti out against the Wraith?

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2005-03-19 02:37pm

Typhonis 1 wrote:OK..so how would SG Command be able to help Atlanti out against the Wraith?

Power reactors, manpower, some F-302s, maybe send the Daedalus.