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Crossroads Inc. wrote:Can anyone tell me if even HALF of R2's gizzmos are standard for an AstroMech Droid? Because if they arn't, then it begs the question where he got them. If they are, it begs the question why can't other R2 units kick so much ass?

IIRC, in the RotS novel, Naboo droids are highly prized due to the extensive modifications and upgrades they get. Presumably, R2 got most of his gizmo's from being in the service of the Queen.

Then, since Padme gave him to Anakin, you have to assume that Anakin fiddled with him a bit. Probably where he got his lightsaber cannon Luke used.

Did anyone see the "flapping missile" that Pablo Hidalgo was crooning about (even though it's similar to a known phenomena in real-life missiles)?

Also, on Utapau there was automatic blaster fire from both sides in the battle--a standard battle droid fires his blaster on automatic, too.

Funny enough, there is at least one example of automatic fire from ordinary blasters in ANH as well. When the first troops come through the turbolift door in the detention block, one gets shot and as he falls, bolts are streaming out of his blaster.

Gandalf wrote:This seems the best thread for this.

What was with General Order 66? It evidently was already being taught to the clones, how many people would have known of such an order being there?

I figured that since the clones were officially meant to be backup for the Jedi, such an order would raise concern.

Anyone?

I think that this was a "general" order that basically means "drop whatever you're doing and do this." Or maybe "this [person or group] is an enemy of the Republic. Eliminate them." Since they are bred to follow orders, they wouldn't question who they're target was.

PeZook wrote:Anybody noticed how fast hyperdrive really works? Padme was able to get to the Outer Rim just after Anakin is done slicing up the separatists and looking into the sunset. Palpatine arrives before Anakin can die of his burns. At most, it took him a few hours.

Yeah, they get around really fast in the movie. Trips to Mustafar from Coruscant easily within hours, same with Kashyyyk and Utapau, even with really small ships. They were everywhere. The hyperdrive must have been DAMN fast.

Makes me wonder if one technology that fell somewhat was the hyperdrive when the Empire came about. I always recall Lucas saying it was like the fall of Rome when the Empire came into being and a lot of tech was lost, but also some new stuff came about (namely weapons since it was one big civil war).

They may all have had .5 class hyperdrives on gov't vessels then.

NecronLord wrote:

Gil Hamilton wrote:However, I was impressed with R2 in that scene. R4 took it like a little bitch from the Buzz-Droids but R2 started whipping out gizmos when the Buzz-Droids came at him. That little droid doesn't take shit from anyone, not even Super Battledroids. I think that R2 should get an award for most kills by peeing on enemy killdroids and then lighting them on fire. Even when the Battledroids jumped the Jedi, R2 put up his "dukes" and was spitting lightning. Plus he continues his proud tradition of elite hacker skills. That droid is my hero.

Technically, he tells the film. It may well be his exxaggeration!

WHo and the what now? DId I miss a memo?

As an aside, that droid is my hero as well.

It is a fact that the SW saga is the story of Artoo and Threepio's adventures. They're consistently in each episode and although Lucas said the story is also about Vader's birth and then death, his droids were always there.

Nothing inconsistent with that. The adventures of Sherlock Holmes revolve around Sherlock, but are told from the point of view of Doctor Watson.

Oops. Double post.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:Can anyone tell me if even HALF of R2's gizzmos are standard for an AstroMech Droid? Because if they arn't, then it begs the question where he got them. If they are, it begs the question why can't other R2 units kick so much ass?

It was mentioned in the novelization that Anakin performed modifications on R2.

NecronLord wrote:What the fuck were those spent shell like things that came out of the back of the seperatist guns?

Cylinders of tibanna gas perhaps?

Ted C wrote:
Cylinders of tibanna gas perhaps?

Initially, I thought that. But then why not have a direct feed instead? It reminds me a bit of how Bolos have slithers of compressed cryo-deuterium for the Hellbores, so they technically have rounds too, but they don't have casings.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:
Initially, I thought that. But then why not have a direct feed instead? It reminds me a bit of how Bolos have slithers of compressed cryo-deuterium for the Hellbores, so they technically have rounds too, but they don't have casings.

Maybe it's safer to keep tibanna in compact, sturdy shells rather than having pipelines of volatile stuff lying around everywhere, like, you know, ST ships.

They are designed to get shot at, after all.

Does noone listen to me? Those Separatist cannons are projectile weapons(RotS: VD). Stop it with the goofy turbolaser theories. They're not turbolasers.

As to R2D2, in the novelization its stated he's been extensively modified by the Naboo Royal Engineers and even more by Anakin after Padme gave R2 to him.

They should've used railguns. Silly Separatists.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:They should've used railguns. Silly Separatists.

Correction, the RotS:VD says they're mass drivers.

But evidently, they have casings, ergo, they can't be throwing solid slugs. So if they're railguns or even coilguns, they're bloody odd designed given casings shouldn't really enter into it (that's one of the advantages of such EM weapons). But since the projectiles seem to glow, there may be something else to it.

Admiral Valdemar wrote:But evidently, they have casings, ergo, they can't be throwing solid slugs. So if they're railguns or even coilguns, they're bloody odd designed given casings shouldn't really enter into it (that's one of the advantages of such EM weapons). But since the projectiles seem to glow, there may be something else to it.

Hmm? Bullets have casings and are solid slugs.

Vympel wrote:
Hmm? Bullets have casings and are solid slugs.

But, Comrade Vympel, why do the casings exist? It is to contain the propellant and slug in one handy dandy package. If by "mass drivers" you mean what I typically expect it to in sci-fi, it should mean railguns or similar EM weapons where only the slug need be used since the propellant is done away with. That leads me to believe that the weapons did use propellant and weren't EM based (at least, entirely) or had some other mode of action. Maybe the casing was for a warhead loaded into each round or something.

I need to see the movie to start taxonifying all of the various ships. I noticed the tracked vehicles as well, along with some other goodies (Obi-Wan's small courier craft, for example).

Seeing the Star Destroyers on Coruscant was kickass, both when they're first seen, and while they depart for Utapau. I could see the forward landing strut a little, though I saw more of the doors (single piece, hinged to one side). Plus there was a gangway ramp on the port side at least, which wasn't too bad since the ship was sitting pretty low to the ground.

There was also a good view of the Venator visible on Kashyyyk. Another one I'll have to look at again, since I can't recall the emblem on the hull.

Another observation: the accordion-like doors Obi-Wan flew out of when departing his flagship. It's not noted in the ICS, unfortunately. Anyone else think that this feature should've been the only thing to open up on the dorsal surface (assuming we had to live with a dorsal aperture of some sort)?

Firefox wrote:Another observation: the accordion-like doors Obi-Wan flew out of when departing his flagship. It's not noted in the ICS, unfortunately. Anyone else think that this feature should've been the only thing to open up on the dorsal surface (assuming we had to live with a dorsal aperture of some sort)?

In the Clone wars cartoon actually showed that the whole long strip on the Venator could open, revealing squadrons of fighters.

IMHO it was good to see that these doors were actually in parts.

Grand Moff Yenchin wrote:In the Clone wars cartoon actually showed that the whole long strip on the Venator could open, revealing squadrons of fighters.

I've seen the same, along with the ICS depiction. I just wish that was the only part that opened up.

On another subject, is it remotely possible that Tantive IV retained the hangar bay in ANH, and that was how the Imperials gained entry?

Yeah, I never did like the idea of a whole flightdeck being bare like that in battle, no matter how quick the doors could close or the shields redivert if breached.