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Posted: 2005-07-09 01:11pm
by Vanas
Avengers and Khopesh pretty much render other strike craft obsolete. Hell, the Khopesh is practically a Bloodhound-Micro.
But yeah, Vagyr Carriers are rather nasty. The SorceressII mounts a Crusad~ well, a whole Merkava under the hull, though I just use all classes as handy fire support. Still, I'm a Kushan at heart, and the Tulwar and LiirHra have been taken in as welcome excessi~ additions to the fleet.

What I really love about this not just the visuals, but the sounds. In combat, I sit atop an Arbiter, and just listen to it crack out all nine barrels before switching to a Bloodhound or Tulwar and just listening to them open up.

Edit: The Prince, I think, has been changed more to a Lineship, same as the Arbiters though from the blurb, I expected it to actaully get into combat rather than wallow about with the Arbiters.

Posted: 2005-07-09 11:22pm
by InnocentBystander
I gota say the engineering frigate is sorta useless. I guess the repair aura is nice, but it's hard to get them into range of other ships, to say nothing of when combat is going on (where you really need it).
Anyone have experience enough to know if the railgun frigate is worth it, over the ion cannon frigate?

Posted: 2005-07-09 11:37pm
by phongn
InnocentBystander wrote:I gota say the engineering frigate is sorta useless. I guess the repair aura is nice, but it's hard to get them into range of other ships, to say nothing of when combat is going on (where you really need it).
I've done it but it is indeed a PITA. Formation flying can help out but isn't always effective. It does have quite a few guns that make it a useful picket ship, though.
Anyone have experience enough to know if the railgun frigate is worth it, over the ion cannon frigate?
Against big, slow targets it is. Against frigates it is not so useful.

Posted: 2005-07-10 12:10am
by InnocentBystander
Say, is it me, or is the Mod website down?
Anywho, anyone up for a game of this? I'm tired of slapping the computer around, it's far too predictable.

Posted: 2005-07-10 04:29am
by Ace Pace
So you want to slap me around? Okey, though give me a few hours to play this game more, I'm trying the SP campaign and losing.

Posted: 2005-07-10 02:48pm
by Hawkwings
I used to be able to make it though the single player campaign with minimal losses. Now, after playing this, I realized how lucky I was...

that being said... I want a ship like the Deacon-class destroyer in Cataclysm. Fast, tons of forward firepower, and well-armored in the front. Plus missiles to take out those pesky fighters :)

Posted: 2005-07-10 02:53pm
by phongn
If you look at the mission descriptions in the SP loader menu there are hints on how to do things.

Oh, in M05 the asteroid you need to insert a Marine Frigate into is guarded by a ToF, so be careful. The mission reccommends drawing it away, then using the AxCV to cloak the MF in.

Posted: 2005-07-10 03:15pm
by InnocentBystander
Heh, I gave up on that mission; maybe I'll give it another shot, that's a good idea. I tried having some MF's run the gauntlet while my pitiful fleet engaged the Titan, they just gunned down the MF's :(

Edit: I think I'll be around and free most of today, poke me on aim if ya wanna play.

Posted: 2005-07-10 03:35pm
by Ace Pace
I lost the frigate you get in mission 2 :(

My system, which used to stream through even the most complex battle slows down horribly in mission 1. Nevermind the horrible accuracy of the fighters(reminds me of FS2 dogfights).

Also, differances between the CV you get in M2 and the one you get in M3?

Its very confusing for a newbie.

Posted: 2005-07-10 04:16pm
by phongn
If you're running PDS6 you should have what looks like a heavily-modified freighter as the carrier in M02. If you're using PDS5.2 then you get a special-operations CV. Both are quite different from the carrier you get in M03.

Posted: 2005-07-10 04:36pm
by Ace Pace
I'm in 6, okey. Whats the differance? One's a stay at home carrier and the other is attacking?

Stupid CTD, even in safe mode I crashed out of Innocent's game. Nevermind, CTD on win.

Posted: 2005-07-10 05:43pm
by InnocentBystander
It could simply have been my wireless connection crapping out. Once I moved closer to the WAP it stopped, though we also were playing as the Sobani. *shrug*

Posted: 2005-07-10 05:48pm
by Ace Pace
InnocentBystander wrote:It could simply have been my wireless connection crapping out. Once I moved closer to the WAP it stopped, though we also were playing as the Sobani. *shrug*
Nah, it CTDed AFTER we finshed playing.

Though I did have some laggy parts, when that Titan came out and everyone switched firing priorities(what a hail of fire).

Posted: 2005-07-10 05:48pm
by InnocentBystander
It's not called a titan of Fire for nothing ;)
Oh that was bad...

Posted: 2005-07-10 05:53pm
by Ace Pace
InnocentBystander wrote:It's not called a titan of Fire for nothing ;)
Oh that was bad...
Dear Bloodhound, please stop attacking
Love,Mothership
:lol:
Dear bombers, its not that small a target unlike Fighters, when attacking a Titan, please do not miss.
Love, mothership fire control
Those two rocked.

Posted: 2005-07-11 10:24am
by phongn
PDS6.1 is now out.

Posted: 2005-07-11 10:27am
by Ace Pace
DLing.

Posted: 2005-07-11 01:28pm
by InnocentBystander
Workin' on it now :D

Posted: 2005-07-11 01:38pm
by Ace Pace
InnocentBystander wrote:Workin' on it now :D
Another match today?

Posted: 2005-07-11 02:21pm
by InnocentBystander
Ya sure, but I won't be around from about 5 to 9 (and then after I'll be making/eating dinner). But the next few hours I should be free. The new patch doesn't seem much different, but the linebacker can no longer make ships :(

Posted: 2005-07-11 02:23pm
by Ace Pace
Atleast thats fixed. okey, meet up in AIM when I can get free.

Posted: 2005-07-12 09:19am
by phongn
The Arelian Defender is a mean ship, though I've been a bit too cocky with it.

Posted: 2005-07-12 12:54pm
by Tiger Ace
phongn wrote:The Arelian Defender is a mean ship, though I've been a bit too cocky with it.
Its a hell of an anti capship weapon, but even against frigates its not that effective, and it lacks PD.

Posted: 2005-07-12 01:54pm
by phongn
Tiger Ace wrote:Its a hell of an anti capship weapon, but even against frigates its not that effective, and it lacks PD.
Its big guns just aren't accurate enough against frigates though its missile swarm can help. I'm still awaiting BBX, though :D

Posted: 2005-07-12 02:52pm
by IRG CommandoJoe
Sort of OT, but is it possible to install PDS with the HW2 demo? I'll see what happens...at worst it won't run or will screw up the demo, right? :D