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Noble Ire wrote:

Guardsman Bass wrote:If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

Of course, this begs the question of why there aren't dozens of mining stations orbiting it.

They have Lando Calrissian's station around it, but it's the only one. Naturally, this makes complete sense , since Coruscant is named after the Corusca gems, but somehow the Illustrated Star Wars Universe got away with claiming that Yavin was not even marked on the star charts when the Rebel Alliance found it.

Guardsman Bass wrote:

Noble Ire wrote:

Guardsman Bass wrote:If you count Shadow Academy from the YJK, then Corusca gems can only be found in Yavin's atmosphere.

Of course, this begs the question of why there aren't dozens of mining stations orbiting it.

They have Lando Calrissian's station around it, but it's the only one. Naturally, this makes complete sense , since Coruscant is named after the Corusca gems, but somehow the Illustrated Star Wars Universe got away with claiming that Yavin was not even marked on the star charts when the Rebel Alliance found it.

Actually, that can be rationalized. Coruscant was named more than 25,000 years ago. Its possible that Yavin was forgotten in the intervening time period (or more likely purged from memory banks by the Jedi after all the Sith nastyness that went down there) and then rediscovered by the rebels (although apparently the Sith still knew about it, see Clone Wars Season one.)

Its just stupid.

Yavin should've remained an irrelevent shithole, just like Tattooine should have.

Assuming the gas giant Yavin could be destroyed, wouldn't it take time for the debris field to clear anyway? Fifteen minutes (for orbiting the planet) is not a very long time to wait, especially considering the complications (recharge time, etc) that blowing up the gas giant would cause.

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Its just stupid.

Yavin should've remained an irrelevent shithole, just like Tattooine should have.

Sorry, but when a flunky can tell Moff Tarkin that they caught a ship that "blasted its way out of Mos Eisley" with no more explanation, it says something at least about Mos Eisley's reputaion. Tattooine may have been a shit hole, but it was a know & relevent shit hole.

Kettch wrote: Sorry, but when a flunky can tell Moff Tarkin that they caught a ship that "blasted its way out of Mos Eisley" with no more explanation, it says something at least about Mos Eisley's reputaion. Tattooine may have been a shit hole, but it was a know & relevent shit hole.

Except the Empire has just been to Tatooine and Vader has sent a detachment down to secure the area to search the data tapes, going to the extent as to decleare a local blockade of the area by presumably borrowing the authority of Grand Moff Tarkin.

Why wouldn't he know about the planet and its cities?

Kettch wrote:

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Its just stupid.

Yavin should've remained an irrelevent shithole, just like Tattooine should have.

Sorry, but when a flunky can tell Moff Tarkin that they caught a ship that "blasted its way out of Mos Eisley" with no more explanation, it says something at least about Mos Eisley's reputaion. Tattooine may have been a shit hole, but it was a know & relevent shit hole.

IPs point is that Tatooine is a hive of scum villany, and while well known for that particular aspect, it should not be a center for important events in the SW. If it is such a hive of scum and villainy then how is it so well known, and why do so many important things happen there? His point is that it is bullshit.

Not that I agree fully.

For Yavin itself, didn't Saxton estimate that the Gas Giant was at the upper limit of the Death Star firepower, and it would had taken hours, if not days for the debris to clear, meaning that removing the giant would had actually increased the obstacles to navigating to Yavin? And that this was also actually echoed in a news article?

Don't get me wrong, but wouldn't blowing Yavin up mess Yavin 4 up real good?

Probably. But I don't think it'd do it fast enough or clean enough for Tarkin's tastes.

Darth Fanboy wrote:

Kettch wrote:

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Its just stupid.

Yavin should've remained an irrelevent shithole, just like Tattooine should have.

Sorry, but when a flunky can tell Moff Tarkin that they caught a ship that "blasted its way out of Mos Eisley" with no more explanation, it says something at least about Mos Eisley's reputaion. Tattooine may have been a shit hole, but it was a know & relevent shit hole.

IPs point is that Tatooine is a hive of scum villany, and while well known for that particular aspect, it should not be a center for important events in the SW. If it is such a hive of scum and villainy then how is it so well known, and why do so many important things happen there? His point is that it is bullshit.

Not that I agree fully.

The "wretched hive of scum and villany" part really just applied to Mos Eisley, and was what Ben was refering to when he said the line. Tatooine itslef wasn't really that bad of a place, it was just waaaay out in the boonies.

PainRack wrote:For Yavin itself, didn't Saxton estimate that the Gas Giant was at the upper limit of the Death Star firepower, and it would had taken hours, if not days for the debris to clear, meaning that removing the giant would had actually increased the obstacles to navigating to Yavin? And that this was also actually echoed in a news article?

Yep, from the SWTC:

It is interesting to compare the energy of the Alderaan blast with the requirement for destroying a large gas-giant planet like Yavin. The magnitude of the Alderaan blast is a few tens of thousands of times what was needed to disrupt a terrestrial planet. Coincidentally, the gravitational binding energy of Yavin turns out to be roughly ten thousand times that of Alderaan (I assume the properties described in Galaxy Guide 2: mass 323.7 times standard (1 = mass of typical habitable planet); equatorial diameter of 192,478km; cloud-top surface gravity of 2.74 times galactic standard.) The Death Star therefore could have demolished it. However the destruction is near the threshold and the explosion would have been very slow. The planet would have taken many hours to blow apart completely. This awesome spectacle would probably have been a nuisance to the movement of the battle station, even if it was able to recharge soon enough to destroy the fourth moon before the rebels evacuated. Perhaps these considerations, in addition to Tarkin's pride and complacency, were influential in persuading the Death Star commanders to approach the rebel base by orbiting rather than obliterating the planet.

+http://www.theforce.net/swtc/ds/#superlaser

Common sense people, you're blowing up Yavin to do what? Destroy Yavin 4. How does it do that? Because Yavin 4 is orbiting Yavin and destroying Yavin will screw up Yavin 4 by definition. Okay, but isn't the Death Star orbiting Yavin too? Yes... And Would that mean blowing up Yavin would screw up the Death Star as well? Yup.

That's why he wouldn't blow up Yavin.

Actually the DS wouldn't be screwed up by destroying Yavin considering it has shields capable of shrugging off being within a planetary diameter of an exploding Alderaan, and a range in, at least, the light minutes. I think the fact that the hours it would take for the DS to recharge and the disruption caused by a slowly exploding planet made the 15 minutes to go around Yavin the most efficient and logical choice, especially when you're making that orbit in a giant, theoretically invincible battle station.

Kettch wrote:

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Its just stupid.

Yavin should've remained an irrelevent shithole, just like Tattooine should have.

Sorry, but when a flunky can tell Moff Tarkin that they caught a ship that "blasted its way out of Mos Eisley" with no more explanation, it says something at least about Mos Eisley's reputaion. Tattooine may have been a shit hole, but it was a know & relevent shit hole.

You don't think he was briefed on the status of recovering the Death Star plans, which threatened his baby's security?

Ok, so I'm assuming the recharge time of the Death Star 1 and Death Star 2 are completely diferent. In ROTJ the superlaser was firining every couple of minutes and wiping out the rebel fleet. Upgrade?

havokeff wrote:Ok, so I'm assuming the recharge time of the Death Star 1 and Death Star 2 are completely diferent. In ROTJ the superlaser was firining every couple of minutes and wiping out the rebel fleet. Upgrade?

Yes, the DS2 superlaser sports a far superior targeting system, a dramatic increase in fire rate, and a more powerful maximum firepower than the original.

Thanks... I don't keep up on all the techno mumbo jumbo of the EU.

Also, the DS2 did not need to fire at full planet-destroying power to take out dumb little rebel cruisers.

http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/519.html
(note that the skeleton figure is Death of Insanely Overpowered Fireballs)

Heh, the fact that the shots fired at Mon Cal cruisers were at a lower power level than planet-destroying shots (and thus have a much shorter recharge time) has nothing to do with the EU. It ought to be common sense.