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Post by Justforfun000 »

I personally see no problem with living much longer. You should obviously not reproduce in such a scenario if you wish to take the place of your children and their children. Heck, having kids could mean hundreds of descendants in only a couple centuries. Think how many people you are refraining from bringing into the world if you simply don't procreate?

It's a better argument then pass on to exponentially larger descendants your legacy and you croak. :P
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outcast wrote:
What is it with you people and insults? Bad hairday or something? I never said it would be inexpensive, i said that it would be worth the cost and t hat over time as technology advances the cost will be driven down. This is pretty much common sense so i don't see how me mentioning it makes me an 'ignorant fool'. And for the record, China is planning a lunar mining base to be established within the next few decades. The reasons it isn't being done are numerous, but the primary one isn't cost. The initial investment would be huge yes, but well worth it. Once the infrastructure is there, cost itself will be drastically lower, and this trend would continue as technology advances. I find it hard to believe you don't understand this.
Aww...the blithering fool doesn't grasp basic economics along with percieves that it'll only need the infrastructure...because that's how the world works, right dipshit?

And you do understand *cost* is the primary concern, or do you percieve cost only as mere dollars and cents?

Of course you do, since you think in a few decades China building a possible Lunar ring means anything except they might possibly have something up there.
And again, as for ethics, they are a personal opinion. There is no absolute morality/ethics as is well understood in modern philosophy. Only someone with a narrowminded rusted down view of right and wrong would believe anything other than that they are relative. Some people consider abortion to be the most evil thing ever, others consider it to be a person's own choice. This ofcourse applies to everything. Just because most of us believe that nuking a city for no reason for instance is wrong, doesn't mean it is. It's just an act, it has no inherent qualities of good or evil. That's a value *we* ascribe to it. As long as you can find someone who disagrees with your sense of ethics (and i assure you, you won't find a single rule of ethics that doesn't have people disagreeing with it), it isn't a universal sense of ethics, or absolute.
Wow, and idiot who doesn't grasp why killing is not good. Here's a clue for the ignorant. The reason we don't kill each other rampantly is because we have in us the idea that if you do such, such will be done to you.

But keep living in your beloved dream world.
Ofcourse we must all live together in some sort of harmony as the vast majority of us don't quite like smashing each other's skulls in on a daily basis so a form of concensus must be reached. This is where we simply state that you are free to do whatever you want so long as it doesn't harm other people. If i want to live forever, you have no right to deny me that, and you certainly can't justify it with some weak argument about how it affects the scarce resources and overpopulates the planet.

Besides, you seriously think that people will sit just idly by and die of old age whilst there's a means to avoid that? Ofcourse not, they'll grab the biggest guns they can and track down the people that prevent them from using such means to gain enhanced life, and blow their fucking brains out.

I know i would.
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Didn't say has said otherwise, fucktard. But hey, if you want to draw out the red herring, be my guest dumbass.
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Yes, your points were all well thought out, civil and mature and generally spot on. On second thought, i lied, you're a git.
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outcast wrote:Yes, your points were all well thought out, civil and mature and generally spot on. On second thought, i lied, you're a git.
Weren't you just complaining about insults?
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outcast wrote:Yes, your points were all well thought out, civil and mature and generally spot on. On second thought, i lied, you're a git.
Wow, excellent rebuttal. I am floored.
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Post by Shinova »

Even if this thing doesn't work out, the population problem will keep getting bigger, we'll just probably delay it by a few hundred years. But it's still coming, so human expansion will be an inevitable necessity whether we get this age-reversing thing working or not.


And I personally think that those who can afford this (third-world countries like Africa are probably out of the question) would likely start living for the long term, getting married later, getting children later, cause they've got a lot more time to do all that. I don't think they'll be getting batches of children continuously every thirty years, unless they're like Mormon or something.
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