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yes the IG should be tank spam....


Also of note someone said "Space Vampires" erm I didn't know that the Blood Angels were considered their own official Dawn of War race now.

Well, for the tank cap, there's always mods. *Shrug* I don't know if that limit will be present in the campaign or not; as I recall, the Space Marines didn't seem to have that problem with Predators in the demo.

Marines will probably get a Dread cap, if we're lucky.

for the heavy weapons squads...you deploy them and un-deploy them, right?

Lonestar wrote:for the heavy weapons squads...you deploy them and un-deploy them, right?

Yeah. So it takes a few seconds before they can start blowing away the enemy (Thus why I said they add a lot to defense.)

Captain Cyran wrote:

Lonestar wrote:for the heavy weapons squads...you deploy them and un-deploy them, right?

Yeah. So it takes a few seconds before they can start blowing away the enemy (Thus why I said they add a lot to defense.)

They are more or less the American GI's from RA2 on crack Can't wait to get my hands on this...

SAMAS wrote:Marines will probably get a Dread cap, if we're lucky.

Oh god yes please.

I liked their power in beta/early release versions, but then they always got spammed in unbelievable numbers, and it pissed me off.

Marine Dreads should be limited. Fluff-wise they're supposed to be rare and ancient. Though there's always the other side of that, since in Epic they're so capped that no-one ever takes them, as they're too limited in firepower and can't be transported, so they tie up a detachment.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:I thought those beauts were just rapid-fire lasguns. Or are hellguns rapid-lases?

Hellguns are lasguns with AP 6 instead of AP -. Essentially, they are better at killing orcs than normal lasguns but are otherwise identical in game terms.

Well, I wish the Karskins have a more varied weapons loadout. Seems like the Guard are lacking on the kickass infantry front.

I really wish that they would make heavy weapons teams work as limited upgrades to a guardsmen squad instead of a micromanagement heavy deployable weapons team. It would be nice is the mini guard commanders worked the same way. That would fix most of my micro issues with the guard.

Nitpick - they're AP 5. So they kill Eldar, Guardsmen, Cultists, and other soft targets respectably well in addition to just Orks.

EDIT: They also generally come with targeters (a catch-all term for lasers, range-finders, and various advanced optics).

Is this the Intro to Dark Crusade? I hope so!

Top movie, #14.

Poor Brother-Sergeant...

Nice movie. And yes, it's the intro, or at least part of it. The designer spoke of truely-flying landspeeders from the intro that he wished he could put in DoW. And that movie had truely-flying landspeeders.

EDIT: Well, the buzz at Relicnews is that it's not the intro, but a cutscene. Whether this is the case or not, I do not know. What I do know is that if it's a cutscene, I'm going to go buy Dark Crusade when it comes out, just to play through and watch all the cutscenes.

EDIT 2 and 1/3: Come to think of it, I think the cameraman is a dreadnought.

You mean they're changing the intro for this one? 'Bout time.

That was very cool. Doubly so seeing as it was in-engine.

Makes me very glad I pre-ordered it earlier today.

Feil wrote:EDIT 2 and 1/3: Come to think of it, I think the cameraman is a dreadnought.

I don't think so. I'm pretty sure there'd have been a lot more autocannon fire. Also, a Dread probably wouldn't have fallen over and been killed like that by the Necron Lord; I'm thinking it would have taken a heavy weapon.

He did get hit by the Monolith's particle whip.

Blood Ravens are officially looney. 'Charge the Monolith!' Yea, it's the size of a building and surrounded by troops. Let's charge it instead of a fighting retreat to some heavy weapons.

SirNitram wrote:Blood Ravens are officially looney. 'Charge the Monolith!' Yea, it's the size of a building and surrounded by troops. Let's charge it instead of a fighting retreat to some heavy weapons.

This is the second time we've seen them do something pretty stupid. In the first opening movie we see them charge that hill covered in orks for absolutely no reason and lose their entire force.

Someone on relicnews suggested that the POV could be from a skull probe. Would explain lack of weapons, and all the numbers on the side, and such.

SirNitram wrote:Blood Ravens are officially looney. 'Charge the Monolith!' Yea, it's the size of a building and surrounded by troops. Let's charge it instead of a fighting retreat to some heavy weapons.

Space Marines in general are usually looney like that, to my understanding.

Rogue 9 wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Blood Ravens are officially looney. 'Charge the Monolith!' Yea, it's the size of a building and surrounded by troops. Let's charge it instead of a fighting retreat to some heavy weapons.

Space Marines in general are usually looney like that, to my understanding.

Not really. Most are quite happy to fight from afar, to use proper tactics. Blood Angels and successors are happy for death, though.

Shinova wrote:Someone on relicnews suggested that the POV could be from a skull probe. Would explain lack of weapons, and all the numbers on the side, and such.

However, skull probes do not bob in time with audible footsteps. It's more likely to be a marine with only melee weapons, beyond that maybe a servitor with legs.

Pretty! That has to be an mission-movie. It's rendered with the in-game engine! They'd have to be incredibly cheap not to make that one. Or at least like, a 'beat final mission' movie, or a 'your side lost' movie.

(hugs her copies of C&C, Emperor: Battle for Dune, and Wing Commander 3)

Movies for the win.