HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. This rvalencia guy's "rebuttal" is hilarious. Here are some excerpts:
VGR Rise's didn't state whether the yield was at maximum. (Not quite like during TNG "The Nth Degree").
Refer VGR Learning Curve for VGR getting busted with ease (simulated) up by a Romulan Warbird.
On the show, we only consider
*filmed* material to be canon (not including the CD-ROMs).
[Note: This was in response to my defense of Mike's SW v. ST in 5 minutes. Mr. Valencia is claiming that because the TM's are not canon, my statements on the entire page are incorrect, even though I stated clearly in that page that this was the case and explained why it was a valid use of the TM's in this particular incident.]
Anderson correctly points out that the intensity of the beam will necessarily decrease as the range increases, but he fails to mention one crucial detail: both phasers were set for stun. There is no evidence anywhere of a wide-angle kill setting even in Star Trek's most modern phasers
Refer to VGR "Worst Case Scenario".
This begs the question of why such ships would be necessary for ground-attack operations, if Thalaron radiation can destroy a shielded target, as he claims is inferred by the movie. This is particularly galling in light of his analysis of the "Base Delta Zero Fallacy," where he uses the fact that TIE fighters conducted "mop up" operations to "prove" that the area was relatively unaffected by the bombardment.
Note that "Delta Flyer" has a "flyer" in its name. I don't
where did this person get "ground-attack operations".
[Note: What the hell does the Delta Flyer have to do with ST: Nemesis? The passage he is referring to referred EXPLICITLY to the "Scorpion" fighters in the movie, and was responding to Mr. Anderson's claims that the "Scorpion" was used for ground-attack operations.]
the UFP's weapons could not do even that much damage to their presumably unarmored corridors while the E-E's crew attempted to repel boarders.
"Unarmored corridors" is a subjective assertion.
PS; SW:1 has shown a Naboo StarFighter can use for ground-attack.
[Note: Actually, "unarmored corridors" is an objective assertion. I guess that the armor of the UFP cannot withstand the force of a character slamming his elbow into it.
BTW, who gives a flying fuck if the Naboo StarFighter can be used for ground-attack operations? My passage was CLEARLY designed to refute Mr. Anderson's claims that Thalaron radiation fired from the Scimitar would kill everyone on a planet, and used the Scorpion's alleged ground attack role to support its claim. Last time I checked, a Naboo StarFighter has absolutely NOTHING to do with the
Scimitar, or its alleged PK capabilities.]
The meaning of this statement is clear. The ship cannot generate more than a terawatt of power. Anderson attempts to dismiss this incident as follows: "take a look at the context . . . they're talking about communications." This is incorrect. Data is speaking of a communication from a terawatt power source, and not a communication that involves a terawatt of power. Riker then explains that the ship cannot generate that much power. It would be very strange if Riker was talking about the entire ship's communications gear in such a manner. Riker is clearly speaking of the entire ship's power core, and not the power of the transmission itself.
GEORDI >Now that we are out of warp, I would like to use this time to make routine adjustments to the deuterium control conduit. It's overdue.
2C INT. MAIN BRIDGE
RIKER > (to Picard) That would preclude use of our warp drive engines.
PICARD > How much time do these adjustments require?
GEORDI'S COM VOICE > A few hours, sir.
The "warp engine" and systems are NOT operational at peak efficiency. It is no wonder that they can't respond, since their warp systems are off line and not traveling at peak or normal operations.
This was stated at almost the start of the show, most Wars cultist (specially from head priest) ignores this passage.
Most "wars cultists" ignore this passage because it's fucking irrelevent! What the hell this guy on? Is he actually trying to claim that the adjustments Geordi would "like to make" in "a few hours" represent a substantial portion of the ship's power, and that without these adjustments the ship's power-generation abilities are orders of magnitude smaller than they would ordinarily be? Moreover, Riker's statement appears to all rational observers to be talking about the ship at PEAK performance, or at least at a performance level that is considered acceptable. Moreover, we KNOW that the ship's engines do not require the adjustments to be made, because Geordi was able to wait until AFTER they dropped out of warp to make the adjustments. This guy's a serious DarkStar afficionado to claim by implication that this was true.
Here's my favorite nitpick, coming up:
Picard states that the UFP is made up of approximately 150 member worlds.
Picard has stated "more than 150" NOT approximately 150 member worlds.
"Lower-limits" are inherently subjective and it heavily based on asserted assumptions.
Wrong, lower limits are objective. They can be made by observation, and then we assume that the power/number/whatever of something is AT LEAST that large. Why is this a subjective measurement? It's obviously not an accurate way of measuring upper limits, but it is a valid criteria.
Apparently I didn't do my job well enough. The rebuttal was made in an attempt to get people like rvalencia to see the faults in DarkStar's reasoning, but the people I aimed it at are merely nitpicking it to death. Sorry, guys, I had hoped this would be more successful than this.
Anyways i dont think that DS knows his arguments to be invalid, he has such a serious mental problem that he must actually believe the bullshit he is spitting.
Who'd have thunck it.......
