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Falcon wrote:You should have faith because of the rich rewards and personal satisfaction to be gained by living a moral life.
Notice the implicit false dilemma in this statement, whereby it is effectively argued that you cannot have a "moral life" without having faith. Standard fundie stealth-hatemongering.
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Falcon wrote:You should have faith because of the rich rewards and personal satisfaction to be gained by living a moral life.
All things be accomplished isn't referring to the end of time, its referring to Jesus' sacrifice. The old law has been put away, we follow Jesus by faith now. No more miracles, no more direct Godly intervention, just faith.
Falcon, you've got to learn that reciting your personal interpretation of scripture isn't going to get you ANYWHERE with the people on this board.

As for the denial of miracles after Christ's sacrifice, well it would appear that YOU are the one who hasn't read the bible. The Bible claims that the Apostles (particularly Peter) performed MANY miracles in the book of Acts AFTER Christ's death. In fact Jesus himself proclaimed that Miracles would follow after his death.
Mark 16:18 wrote:They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
After Christ's death
John 14:12 wrote:Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Jesus' deciples will perform GREATER miracles AFTER he ascends to the Father (which was AFTER Jesus' resurection).
Acts 3:2-7 wrote:And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple;
Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms.
And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us.
And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them.
Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.
And he took him by the right hand, and lifted him up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.
And he leaping up stood, and walked, and entered with them into the temple, walking, and leaping, and praising God.
Peter and John heal a lame man AFTER Jesus' resurrection.
Acts 5:16 wrote:There came also a multitude out of the cities round about unto Jerusalem, bringing sick folks, and them which were vexed with unclean spirits: and they were healed every one.
Peter healing the sick AFTER Jesus' resurrection.
Acts 5:19 wrote:But the angel of the Lord by night opened the prison doors
An angel helping Peter out AFTER Jesus' resurrection.
Acts 6:8 wrote:And Stephen, full of faith and power, did great wonders and miracles among the people.
Stephen performing miracles AFTER Jesus' resurrection? Must be the work of the devil, right?
Acts 8:7 wrote:For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed with them: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.
Phillip casts out devils AFTER Jesus' resurection.
Acts 9:32-34 wrote:And it came to pass, as Peter passed throughout all quarters, he came down also to the saints which dwelt at Lydda.
And there he found a certain man named Aeneas, which had kept his bed eight years, and was sick of the palsy.
And Peter said unto him, Aeneas, Jesus Christ maketh thee whole: arise, and make thy bed. And he arose immediately.
Divine healing AFTER Christ.
Acts 9:36-37,40-41 wrote:Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha, which by interpretation is called Dorcas: this woman was full of good works and almsdeeds which she did.
And it came to pass in those days, that she was sick, and died: whom when they had washed, they laid her in an upper chamber.
But Peter put them all forth, and kneeled down, and prayed; and turning him to the body said, Tabitha, arise. And she opened her eyes: and when she saw Peter, she sat up.
And he gave her his hand, and lifted her up, and when he had called the saints and widows, presented her alive.
Peter raising the dead, AFTER Christ.

I could go on and on but I think I've made my point clear. According to the Bible, Miracles did NOT stop with the Resurrection of Jesus.
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