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Launching a coup in the Caymans? With Wilkens right next door watching? Unless he's going to offer his own support to the coup...

Karmic Knight wrote:I sue RogueIce, because he dared me to.

I see your lawsuit, and raise you... *declares war*

Just kidding.

My real response? I told my people. Not my fault Mister Plot doesn't watch Shinra TV.

PeZook wrote:Well, guys, I basically want to organize an insurgency and revolution at the Caymans, because as far as corporate assholes go, these guys are pretty shitty, and so I don't like them

And now the SNC knows

So launching a coup in territory within long range arty distance of parts of my country? Given that everything is for sale in the Caymans it should take me...oh about 20 minutes to figure this out

PeZook wrote:Well, guys, I basically want to organize an insurgency and revolution at the Caymans, because as far as corporate assholes go, these guys are pretty shitty, and so I don't like them

Sounds like a setup for a MESS peacekeeping mission to me.

Calm down guys, this thing is in the planning stages right now.

Though yeah, we may, erm..."arrange" for conditions to become suitable for a MESS peacekeeping operation, if your guys are interested

Totally deniable, of course.

Why does the MESS get interested all of a sudden?

Stas Bush wrote:Why does the MESS get interested all of a sudden?

Probably because it's on their doorstep?

Why don't we (i.e. you) guys not try creating an international fracas right next to the border of one of the world's biggest military alliances for the sake of shit and giggles? Newspaper caricatures of MESS guys captioned going on about "SNC Threat!" won't be as catchy or amusing as the ones from Game 1 with "OMSK Threat!" captions.



(Quick Stas, go install a dictator named Bidel Castrati and put nuclear missiles on the Gaymans! Go! A Gayman Missile Crisis will be awesome with all the phallic imagery! Yes! Bidel Castrati will be hankering for strategic weaponry to compensate for his... erm... inadequacies! Yes!)

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Why don't we (i.e. you) guys not try creating an international fracas right next to the border of one of the world's biggest military alliances for the sake of shit and giggles? Newspaper caricatures captioned "SNC Threat!" won't be as catchy or amusing as the ones from Game 1 with "OMSK Threat!" captions.



(Quick Stas, go install a dictator named Bidel Castrati and put nuclear missiles on the Gaymans! Go! A Gayman Missile Crisis will be awesome with all the phallic imagery! Yes! Bidel Castrati will be hankering for strategic weaponry to compensate for his... erm... inadequacies! Yes!)

I think installing nukes is something I will not tolerate.

Yeah, it's a dumb idea anyway. We (you guys) don't need to agitate the MESS or piss them off needlessly by going around them and doing things without asking their permission as an informal courtesy. Besides, isn't Byzantium still in the MESS?

What's in an island full of homos and a Tsar? If you go by the Shroomanian Suggestion, we'd have SSS guys have the Tsar killed and make it look like he was accidentally raped in every hole of his body. By his son.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Yeah, it's a dumb idea anyway. We (you guys) don't need to agitate the MESS or piss them off needlessly by going around them and doing things without asking their permission as an informal courtesy. Besides, isn't Byzantium still in the MESS?

We are in the MESS, with substantially reduced participation, i.e. we are happy to indulge in joint projects, but foreign policy is not strictly following general MESS policy.

Siege

The name of the sub you got was almost certainly Unseen or Upholder, not High-Falutin'.

Lonestar wrote:The name of the sub you got was almost certainly Unseen or Upholder, not High-Falutin'.

Ah. Chalk it up to those darned mass media getting it wrong!

Karmic, Siege, I'm coming to the conference. But it needs a more reasonable name, like "Frequesquan Defence Conference", or something.

Stas Bush wrote:Why does the MESS get interested all of a sudden?

Because the Caymans are within long range arty distance of parts of Wilkonia.

Honestly the MESS as a whole isn't interested, Wilkonia is interested in and of themselves. The Caymans basically serve as a neutral waypoint for trade with the IRT. Since Wilkonia and the IRT have a long history of animosity if not neccesarrily outright violence it has made sense for corporations to route business dealings through the Caymans to avoid pesky oversight issues. For both sides since the money, often as not, still winds up back in the state coffers of the IRT and Wilkonia the authorities are iwlling to look the other way at the remainder of the corruption and greed central to the Caymans.

That said virtually every person who can make a dime on those islands knows that one or both of those naitons would come down like a hammer if they actually tried to steer a course towards independent relations. The hodge-podge of government essentially serves as dual-client state of the IRT and Wilkonia. So anyway a revolution would certianly have a fair chance of getting off the ground (since the average citizen lives in poverty while the rich get richer off international trade) but any hint of disruption in the status quo is almost certain to bring about Wilkonian intervention and possibly IRT intervention as well.

Now Shinra, TX, Alaska, and Cascadia all would have lesser interests but would still take notice of actions on those islands. The OD, Canissia, and Byzantium couldn't give two shits less.

Master_Baerne wrote:Karmic, Siege, I'm coming to the conference. But it needs a more reasonable name, like "Frequesquan Defence Conference", or something.

the GdFCDCIRaCCCC: Our Acronym is absurd.

And, of course, we do need a sane name.

How much would it cost to bribe some delegate to make a motion to officially change the name of your continent to "The Goddamn Fucking Continent"?

RogueIce wrote:How much would it cost to bribe some delegate to make a motion to officially change the name of your continent to "The Goddamn Fucking Continent"?

If you really wanted to add insult to injury, you should ask Shroom to give them a name.

RogueIce wrote:How much would it cost to bribe some delegate to make a motion to officially change the name of your continent to "The Goddamn Fucking Continent"?

Lake County, Ohio.

Alright, since Siege already bought two of Lonestar's Scorpènes, I'd like to buy the other two for the same price that Siege paid for his.

Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:Alright, since Siege already bought two of Lonestar's Scorpènes, I'd like to buy the other two for the same price that Siege paid for his.

The remaining two are not available at the moment...waiting for the remainder of my ordered SSNs to come online.

Unless you want to offer a better deal than Siege got...

So anyway a revolution would certianly have a fair chance of getting off the ground (since the average citizen lives in poverty while the rich get richer off international trade) but any hint of disruption in the status quo is almost certain to bring about Wilkonian intervention and possibly IRT intervention as well.

But... what if you suffer a Bay of the Pigs?

Stas Bush wrote:

So anyway a revolution would certianly have a fair chance of getting off the ground (since the average citizen lives in poverty while the rich get richer off international trade) but any hint of disruption in the status quo is almost certain to bring about Wilkonian intervention and possibly IRT intervention as well.

But... what if you suffer a Bay of the Pigs?

Presumably his exiles would actually have air cover.

EDIT: Also, B-56Gs painted in Shepistani SAC Colors!

RogueIce wrote:How much would it cost to bribe some delegate to make a motion to officially change the name of your continent to "The Goddamn Fucking Continent"?

Since the official name is "Frequesque" now, and we all use "Goddamn F-ing Continent" anyway, presumably we could change the official name and then use the former one as slang? I like this plan...