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PeZook wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: You bet. Something of the order of 1GTonne of TNT.

If you want to drop the entire Moon on Earth, you'd need a dozen orders of magnitude more than that.

The Earth Moon moves around the common barycenter with an average speed of 1 km/s and masses 7.4E22 kg. The energy required to crash it into the earth is unimaginable.

Actually, I was thinking of pieces of. Blow it up deep inside and then send a massive reverberating shockwave throughout the moon and cause chunks of it to break off and fall into Earth.

Sea Skimmer wrote:Wow… and yet bioweapons are bad because they might wipe out all humanity…. Yeah… this thinking makes much sense.

I thought you did have those stashed somewhere?

And as PeZook said, if all of Humanity is going to die anyway, let's make it a bang. I for one, am thinking seriously about my doomsday weapons, which is not to say what sort of weapons I have.

You people are horrible

Shroom Man 777 wrote:You people are horrible

We'll form a new organization with Figolfin: The N.A.S.T.Y., devoted to developing horrible revenge weapons . Or maybe we'll call it the FOOKJU

Fungal Union Commission of Kinetic Ultra Penetrative Weapons of Assured Destruction

FUCK-UP-WAD

I think it ought to be "FUCK UP SWAD": Fungal Union Commission of Kinetic Ultra Penetrative Weapons of Self Assured Destruction

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Actually, I was thinking of pieces of. Blow it up deep inside and then send a massive reverberating shockwave throughout the moon and cause chunks of it to break off and fall into Earth.

The Moon still has gravity, you know.

In reality when dealing with the nations like UAR, to have any leverage at all you need weapons of assured destruction (thanks for the tip, Shep).

You can't "argue" something when you don't have the ability to utterly destroy, or seriously damage/otherwise cripple your enemy in case of war. Especially when said enemy is intent on creating the most powerful nuclear arsenal New Mankind has ever seen.

phongn wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Actually, I was thinking of pieces of. Blow it up deep inside and then send a massive reverberating shockwave throughout the moon and cause chunks of it to break off and fall into Earth.

The Moon still has gravity, you know.

Then make a bigger boom.

EDIT: Stas, I think I will just assume you delivered the aircraft.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Then make a bigger boom.

EDIT: Stas, I think I will just assume you delivered the aircraft.

Or aim for one of the smaller ones! Chang-No is only 400 kilometers in diameter ; Dropping it on someone's head wil be orders of magnitude easier. It's far closer, too.

EDIT: Holy fuck people Chang-No is only 85 thousand kms away and it's a 400km ball of iron ores! That's about 70.33E18 tonnes of ore, right there for the taking.

And you know what iron ore is?

IRON OXIDE

So we have iron, and we have oxygen, right there, placed for us in orbit. A gigantic fucking ball of iron and oxygen.

Shit, I guess my greed just exploded

THE ISCA TAKES TO THE STARS!

For outrageous fees!

OH MY GOD! SHADY! HERACLIUS! YOU'RE BREATHING IN IRRADIATED BEACH AIR BLOWN FROM ZABLANIA! GET OUT OF THERE NOW!

RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fucking Saddamistan! Fuck!

Don't Worry, He is left so far in the dust in the space race that within a couple of decades, FUN and the MESS will have colonies on the moons with anti missile laser clusters while he is still milling about on Nova Terra cause he does not have a space program, that would mean less Tanks and such.

Zor

Shroom Man 777 wrote:

OH MY GOD! SHADY! HERACLIUS! YOU'RE BREATHING IN IRRADIATED BEACH AIR BLOWN FROM ZABLANIA! GET OUT OF THERE NOW!

RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

WHAT?

It can't possible reach the Empire that fast? Can it?

I don't know. Hell, the Central Sea region should be in radioactive alert or something.

Goddamn Saddamistanis.

Zor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fucking Saddamistan! Fuck!

Don't Worry, He is left so far in the dust in the space race that within a couple of decades, FUN and the MESS will have colonies on the moons with anti missile laser clusters while he is still milling about on Nova Terra cause he does not have a space program, that would mean less Tanks and such.

Zor

He will have plenty of nukes to kill us all and we will be on the Moon.

THE RADIOACTIVE DUST IS GOING TO REACH YOU! YOUR PENIS WILL FALL OFF AND THEN YOU'LL DIE! RUN!

Eherm... seriously. This is baaaad. I hope one of those surveillance zeppelins or those Qudlivun scientific survey ships notices and sends warnings!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:THE RADIOACTIVE DUST IS GOING TO REACH YOU! YOUR PENIS WILL FALL OFF AND THEN YOU'LL DIE! RUN!

Eherm... seriously. This is baaaad. I hope one of those surveillance zeppelins or those Qudlivun scientific survey ships notices and sends warnings!

I think it's.. time to flee to my plane which is NBC protected...

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:THE RADIOACTIVE DUST IS GOING TO REACH YOU! YOUR PENIS WILL FALL OFF AND THEN YOU'LL DIE! RUN!

Eherm... seriously. This is baaaad. I hope one of those surveillance zeppelins or those Qudlivun scientific survey ships notices and sends warnings!

I think it's.. time to flee to my plane which is NBC protected...

Don't worry, I have a bunker beneath the resort. We can hide in there if it is necessary.

Technically, the trip took place before New Year. You know, in all likelihood, we are a bit "behind time".

Zor wrote: Don't Worry, He is left so far in the dust in the space race that within a couple of decades, FUN and the MESS will have colonies on the moons with anti missile laser clusters while he is still milling about on Nova Terra cause he does not have a space program, that would mean less Tanks and such.

Zor

Actually investment in my conventional army has been pretty much zero except for SAMs, and I sustain my strategic missile deployment via converting armored unit to that purpose, efffectivly keeping my operating budget static. With nuclear weapons it hardly matters if I use a T-62 or the latest M1A3s, any gun from 105mm on up can fire a linear implosion bomb, and since land wars are virtually impossible even that doesn’t really matter.

Also remember a lot of the weapons R&D the UAR is doing is very much duel use.
Ballistic missile work means I’m not quite in the space race dust, and the combination of Saddamistan work on mobile nuclear reactors and Shepnukistani work on nuclear ramjets places the UAR well above most other states in this field. Work on MGM-131D improved ramjet missile has to be completed first though, then we’ll start on the nuclear ICBM, and then a nuclear space booster.

Anyway, you’ll have to shell out literally trillions to build self sustaining moon colonies of any significance, I am not terribly concerned about that nor would I ever bother to try to match it. I’m much more interested in what the deep ocean of SDN world contains, things which can be exploited not in decades or centuries but right now and over the next few years. Don’t say I didn’t give warning.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Technically, the trip took place before New Year. You know, in all likelihood, we are a bit "behind time".

Well in that case we slap an "Unreal Time" label on the posts and we are perfectly safe.

EDIT: At least you will be.

Jesus, people. The clouds will have to move over hundreds of kilometers of sea. It's bad,but it's not Apocalypse.

The worst thing will be the panic. Fortunately, I spent outrageous amounts of money (for a small country such as mine) on civil defence.

Heh. Saddamistan will now give us all cancer. Next thing we know, they'll start stealing our bodily fluids

PeZook wrote:Jesus, people. The clouds will have to move over hundreds of kilometers of sea. It's bad,but it's not Apocalypse.

The worst thing will be the panic. Fortunately, I spent outrageous amounts of money (for a small country such as mine) on civil defence.

Heh. Saddamistan will now give us all cancer. Next thing we know, they'll start stealing our bodily fluids

Yeah.. nuclear engines... ugh... Seriously, everytime I see the word "nuclear", I start to wonder what else is left that I haven't think of.

Anyhow, those ISCA underwater habitats should come in handy. Are those ready for order?

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