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SiegeTank wrote: The Wiki told me differently... Have I been misdirected? If so, I invoke the right of Story Purposes (again ).

IIRC, Range (snorkel) is calculated for a sub that is running underwater on diesels all the time, which is less efficient than moving on batteries and snorkelling to charge them once a day due to the fact the snorkels stick above the water and push around their own bow wave.

SiegeTank wrote:A fair point, and one which captain Mohammad will surely remember next time .

Yeah, I guess nearly dying has this sort of effect

For fun, you can think what would've happened if the chopper simply lobbed a Sea Skua at them...

Oh, and Shroom: the Mig-105 is pretty much a space fighter, this is why it's a separate design. We could all co-operate on the Tu-2000, though?

Sure! We need joint cooperation to kick the MSA's ass - and Shroomania doesn't like losing in manly competitions to measure mens manhoods! I am sure you can all agree with Shroomania, Fuck Yeah on this one!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Sure! We need joint cooperation to kick the MSA's ass - and Shroomania doesn't like losing in manly competitions to measure mens manhoods! I am sure you can all agree with Shroomania, Fuck Yeah on this one!

Building huge penis-shaped objects that SPIT FIRE is right in Shroomania's alley, I think

Yeah! Our mad scientists can draft up all sorts of plans for the rest of you to laugh at, but occasionally implement when we sometimes figure out something truly awesome.

Like Monster Truck Moon Rovers!

EDIT:

WITH GATLING GUNS! They will be instrumental in saving us from doomsday asteroids when a manly bunch of Shroomanian oil rig drillers become humanity's last hope!

Ah Shroom.... It's against Byzantine law to do that sort of thing....

Could you arrange it to be done like .. in Alexandria?

Okay. I suck in the geography of that place. Sure.

PeZook wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote: And maybe FASTA could have Shroomania develop launch facilities on Comona as well. We bought some Silver Streaks from San Dorado. Call them... Dyna-Shrooms!

IIRC, I made a post about it a while ago. Or didn't I?

Either way, we'll need another launch center in the near future, to handle superheavy loads necessary to support a Moon base and a Mars outpost

Silly FASTA folks, there is a reason why the MSA's non X-Plane facilities are located in essentially an un-inhabited tract of land with both Northward and Eastward downrange clearence. Right now the biggest challenge is getting supplies down there (though a triple tracked dedicated spur line helps) for construction. The X-Plane project obviously has all the space it needs what with Shepistan becoming a barren wasteland.

MUWAHAHAHAHAHA! Our greatest plan begins today!

You will all rue this day.

Wilkens, couple of comments:

1) Unmanned docking is actually harder to do than manned, which is why FASTA higher ups wanted to do it "in style" and on the first orbit.

2) FASTA does have two pads for Saturn/Energia class boosters under construction at Jerusalem (I made posts about it). Comona is just the mission control facility, much like Houston vs. KSC.

Chemical rockets are puny.

phongn wrote:Chemical rockets are puny.

Nuclear rockets are bad for the local environment.

Beowulf wrote:Nuclear rockets are bad for the local environment.

Since when has Tonkin really cared?

phongn wrote:

Beowulf wrote:Nuclear rockets are bad for the local environment.

Since when has Tonkin really cared?

Well, if it's outside Tonkin proper, then it's a bit harder to maintain security.

Military notes: over the last various years, most of my older aircraft have been phased out in favor of replacements (Navalized Gripen-NG, Steve's Super-Hornet analogue, and a limited number of those joint Japanistani-Tonkin very heavy interceptor). Naval procurement was mostly to replace older ships with newer and more capable ones. Overall aircraft numbers have begun to decline as much more capable aircraft begin replacing them. Maintenance costs have also dropped as newer birds are much more reliable.

Space development, well ... I've been quiet, but I have plans

So...looks like we'll need that military space station soon

Shroom Man 777 wrote:ZOR:

You should totally let Siege play with his FIST OF ALLAH thing for a little while, man. It's totally awesome.

(awesomer than shinto vikings and gyrojets anyway)

Unfortunately Zor's more interested in finding ways to claim quick victory than in having fun little stories.

PeZook wrote:So...looks like we'll need that military space station soon

Indeed.

Damn, it's been a while since I've written something. I'm rusty.

PeZook wrote:Wilkens, couple of comments:

1) Unmanned docking is actually harder to do than manned, which is why FASTA higher ups wanted to do it "in style" and on the first orbit.

2) FASTA does have two pads for Saturn/Energia class boosters under construction at Jerusalem (I made posts about it). Comona is just the mission control facility, much like Houston vs. KSC.

My bad to the later and one of the points of the overall "hearing" was that basically we are testing all of our automated systems. I'm currently running a 20% failure chance for each major fully automated test and I came up clean for the unmanned docking. I am totally expecting that at least one of my LEM tests or orbital re-positioning burns is going to go drastically wrong but until I roll a failure my systems pass . Actually what is likely going to happen will be that on one of the rendevous, dock, and burn exercises one of the three operations will fail with automated systems at which poitn we do a failure effects model and the astronauts learn how to compensate (unless I roll 1s in which case I get millions of tiny bits of space debris).

So yeah sorry about missing the posts about the Jerusalem construction.

Speaking of plans...

( Tonkin has been doing considerable aerodynamic testing of lifting-body designs and whatnot, even if Project 46L never made it to the development phase. I still regard us as the world leader in solid rockets, and we'll have some tests to make sure we know how to have people breathe in space, though I suspect that we can get that design work on the ground as well. )

Also, a hypothetical liquid-staged design.

Hey Shady, when I mentioned my own research into enhanced soldiers (much less ambitious than your super soldier wankery ) Beowulf mentioned that Marina said any such research into the virus would take at least ten years to produce results and such.

So since you've only been at it for two years and, let's face it, have less money to throw at the problem than I do (I'll totally find a way to draw in MESS funds if you try to play the SNC card on me ), expect things to go horribly, horribly wrong for your Black Hand "volunteers".

RogueIce wrote:Hey Shady, when I mentioned my own research into enhanced soldiers (much less ambitious than your super soldier wankery ) Beowulf mentioned that Marina said any such research into the virus would take at least ten years to produce results and such.

So since you've only been at it for two years and, let's face it, have less money to throw at the problem than I do (I'll totally find a way to draw in MESS funds if you try to play the SNC card on me ), expect things to go horribly, horribly wrong for your Black Hand "volunteers".

10 Years? That's a long time. Still it might be worth it. The Volunteers? They died in service to their glorious motherland.

Anyway Comrade, there is no need for the SNC card to be played. I have found another source of funding.

Besides it's just something I thought might be fun.

DarthShady wrote:Anyway Comrade, there is no need for the SNC card to be played. I have found another source of funding.

Wow. That's dedication. But doesn't your bottom get sore after the first few?

Coyote wrote:

DarthShady wrote:Anyway Comrade, there is no need for the SNC card to be played. I have found another source of funding.

Wow. That's dedication. But doesn't your bottom get sore after the first few?

SD.net humour, it's always about butsex.

I missed this place.

RogueIce wrote:Hey Shady, when I mentioned my own research into enhanced soldiers (much less ambitious than your super soldier wankery ) Beowulf mentioned that Marina said any such research into the virus would take at least ten years to produce results and such.

You guys bug me about submersible aircraft carriers and land battleships, and then talk about super-soldiers?

Have fun with jihadis wielding anti-shipping missiles, Zor!