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White Haven wrote:Two things, and I call them Thing One and Thing Two.

Thing One, I admit to finding the stonewalling of any progress whatsoever to be a bit disturbing. Makes me wonder what's the point of trying to grow at all, if growth is not permitted. Or am I missing something?

Thing Two, define 'in-game year.'

Beowulf wrote:In game year is however long it takes for a year to pass in game. It's a variable amount of time based on however long it takes to do it. The speed of time is a variable, but usually faster rate than real time.

Thirdfain wrote:OK, I'm gonna toss an idea out here. I was wondering if setting up extra game threads to follow certain story lines might be a good idea- for instance, an ERTC thread which would be solely for ERTC bills, votes, and debate in-character between Commission diplomats. Perhaps one for a United Nations, if we ever make one- that sort of thing. Thoughts?

Hmm. That assumes that every nation in the galaxy is putting that sort of thing at the precise same priority, and that no one is sitting pat on their infrastructure. But okay, s'not my call by any stretch, just musing on it.

InnocentBystander wrote:

Jaded Masses wrote:You know, innocent, ignoring my posts completely doesn't strike me as very good game play....

I think, perhaps, that you missed my post on page 10. I believe I took everything into account- it was a pretty big post. But that was a few days ago already.

Beowulf wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:Okay, seeing how we still don't have a construction system, I sat down and did a few minutes of number crunching. I decided upon the normal growth rate of a minor power and went from there, scaling up based on the starting ships of the various power levels. The system for review is as follows:

Minimal military construction:
Minor; .5 cap, 1.5 crs, 7.5 esc
Regional; 1 cap, 3 crs, 15 esc
Major; 1.5 cap, 4.5 crs, 22.5 esc
Grand; 2 cap, 6 crs, 30 esc

Normal military construction:
Minor; 1 cap, 3 crs, 15 esc
Regional; 2 cap, 6 crs, 30 esc
Major; 3 cap, 9 crs, 45 esc
Grand; 4 cap, 12 crs, 60 esc

Arms Race/Military Buildup
Minor; 2 cap, 6 crs, 30 esc
Regional; 4 cap, 12 crs, 60 esc
Major; 6 cap, 18 crs, 90 esc
Grand; 8 cap, 24 crs, 120 esc

Wartime Production:
Minor; 3 cap, 9 crs, 45 esc
Regional; 6 cap, 18 crs, 90 esc
Major; 9 cap, 27 crs, 135 esc
Grand; 12 cap, 36 crs, 180 esc

Emergency Production:
Minor; 4 cap, 12 crs, 60 esc
Regional; 8 cap, 24 crs, 120 esc
Major; 12 cap, 36 crs, 180 esc
Grand; 16 cap, 48 crs, 240 esc

Note that wartime and especially emergency production are hard on the national economy; they represent the devotion of a large portion of the nation's industry to military buildup. These should not be undertaken lightly, and emergency production cannot be sustained for extended periods in any case. Details of this will be hammered out later; I can't stay online.

Although the system itself seems ok, I think the actual numbers should be based off the initial ship points. Minimal would be around 5%, Normal 10%, Military Buildup 20%, Wartime 30%, Emergency 40%. This would result in the following numbers:

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         Cap  Cru Esc
Minimal  
Minor    .75  1.5 12.5
Regional 1.5  3.5 25
Major    2.25 5   37.5
Grand    3    6.5 50

Normal
Minor    1.5  4   25
Regional 3    7   50
Major    4.5  10  75
Grand    6    13  100

Buildup
Minor    3    8   50
Regional 6    14  100
Major    9    20  150
Grand    12   26  200

Wartime
Minor    4.5  12  75
Regional 9    21  150
Major    12.5 30  225
Grand    18   39  300

Emergency
Minor    6    16  100
Regional 12   28  200
Major    18   40  300
Grand    24   52  400

As far as time scale goes, I tihnk it should be the above amount per in game year.

Thirdfain wrote:On a completely unrelated note, I just re-read STGOD 4 and I'd like to say to all those who played it:

Thank you. It was a great game, thanks in no small part to the skill of it's players. Even at your worst (and STGOD4 did indeed hit that worst,) the game still ran.

I hope this game winds up as good!

Darksider wrote:Longest running game we had.....

Although I wish the last war had started a little later though. There were a few more things I wanted to do on Hudson

Thirdfain wrote:On a completely unrelated note, I just re-read STGOD 4 and I'd like to say to all those who played it:

Thank you. It was a great game, thanks in no small part to the skill of it's players. Even at your worst (and STGOD4 did indeed hit that worst,) the game still ran.

I hope this game winds up as good!

Dahak wrote: Yes, it was a nice game
Though it was really a pity we didn't resolve the last and maybe cataclysmic battle

Thirdfain wrote:On a completely unrelated note, I just re-read STGOD 4 and I'd like to say to all those who played it...

Crayz9000 wrote:

Thirdfain wrote:On a completely unrelated note, I just re-read STGOD 4 and I'd like to say to all those who played it...

Damnit, Thirdfain, never say things like that. I think you jinxed the game.

Anyway, I know people are just starting their semesters again, but still, we need to finish this game within a week or two or it's going to die a slow and painful death with very intermittent posts from maybe one or two people (think of them as life support).

STGOD runs in spurts, there's a reason why the ones on the Archive are labeled things like "Thanksgiving 2000" "Winter 2000" etc. You can't draw them out, or the players will get too bored and lose interest. So basically we could try to get the players together to wrap it up, and then pick up where we left off over spring break or maybe in the summer.

Sound good?