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Posted: 2005-02-28 12:58pm
by InnocentBystander
Shinova wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote: Well last sunday I played the single player and found that the heros always come back, so I just sent the two of them into the avatar over and over again, and they didn't even come close.

You forget one thing:


The Force Commander at that point has a power sword, not a Daemonhammer. :P
So that itty bitty Force Commander stun the Eldar Avatar? I guess use of orbital strikes could do it though.

Btw, in single player the Leman Russ tanks have a lot less HP than predators, is this... "realistic"?

Posted: 2005-02-28 01:21pm
by Rogue 9
InnocentBystander wrote:
Shinova wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote: Well last sunday I played the single player and found that the heros always come back, so I just sent the two of them into the avatar over and over again, and they didn't even come close.

You forget one thing:


The Force Commander at that point has a power sword, not a Daemonhammer. :P
So that itty bitty Force Commander stun the Eldar Avatar? I guess use of orbital strikes could do it though.

Btw, in single player the Leman Russ tanks have a lot less HP than predators, is this... "realistic"?
From what I gather, Predators are light tanks while the Leman Russ is an MBT. So no.

Posted: 2005-02-28 04:27pm
by Brother-Captain Gaius
A Leman Russ will roll right over a Predator Destructor. A Predator Annihilator comes packing three lascannons (one of which is twin-linked) however and despite its inferior survivability it packs more antitank capability. The Leman Russ has one lascannon by default, and its battlecannon fires some type of all-purpose munition, but it lacks the punch of a lascannon.

Posted: 2005-02-28 05:00pm
by InnocentBystander
The point was that the predator had like 4600 hp and the Russ had 2k, serious difference.. esp. when I thought the Russ was the top dog, how is the Russ compared to Das Uber Tank... err the baneblade ;)

Posted: 2005-02-28 05:04pm
by Brother-Captain Gaius
A Baneblade counts as a Titan for all intents and purposes. A Leman Russ is just a "Vehicle." No contest.

Posted: 2005-02-28 05:18pm
by InnocentBystander
:? So... how many brightlances will I need this time?

Posted: 2005-02-28 06:18pm
by Shinova
InnocentBystander wrote:The point was that the predator had like 4600 hp and the Russ had 2k, serious difference.. esp. when I thought the Russ was the top dog, how is the Russ compared to Das Uber Tank... err the baneblade ;)


....... I thought the Leman Russ had like almost 5000 HP.


At least the Orks' Looted version does, which is almost the same as the normal one so I would assume they have nearly the same HP.


And you will need as many brightlances as you can afford to lose. :P

Posted: 2005-02-28 06:32pm
by White Haven
In all fairness, Orky chaos manipulation can explain the difference. They BELIEVE it's armored all to hell, so it ends up being so. Annoying, and one of the parts I don't like about 40k, but it fits theme.

Posted: 2005-02-28 08:15pm
by InnocentBystander
Shinova wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:The point was that the predator had like 4600 hp and the Russ had 2k, serious difference.. esp. when I thought the Russ was the top dog, how is the Russ compared to Das Uber Tank... err the baneblade ;)


....... I thought the Leman Russ had like almost 5000 HP.


At least the Orks' Looted version does, which is almost the same as the normal one so I would assume they have nearly the same HP.


And you will need as many brightlances as you can afford to lose. :P
In the two levels I've played where you get them, they only have 2000 hp, maybe difficulty affects their hp?

Posted: 2005-02-28 11:18pm
by Rogue 9
No, it's 2000 regardless of difficulty. They just didn't want the Guard to have the massive armor advantage it's supposed to. In proportional power to Predators, the six Leman Russ tanks in the four relics mission would kick ass and take names.

Posted: 2005-03-01 02:14am
by Companion Cube
In other news, this site has my stats on correctly (when I search for them), which mystifies me a bit more. Oh, and they have those interactive banner things.