Major incident occuring on the London Underground.

[Darth Wong]

A little something I cooked up. I think it says it nicely.

Nice sentiment, but it doesn't mean anything. These people don't have a country you can bomb in retaliation. What you're fighting against is a political movement, not an organizational structure. This is the biggest problem with the War on Terror, and I don't know if anyone has a real solution to the problem.

[Plekhanov]

Yeah god forbid that the police should actually try to have good relations with the public they’re protecting, clearly we’d be much better off in a situation where I feared the police rather than seeing them as approachable public servants employed by me (the taxpayer) for mine and societies benefit on a consensual basis.

They are an authority figure and you should rightly have respect and fear for them. Criminal elements clearly don't.

And why will the presence of a death dealing weapon on every police officers hip suddenly mean that they’ll be respected by those who don’t do so already?

The police are already quite capable to kick the crap out of the “chav scum” as you put it the reason they don’t is because of a little thing we have here called the rule of law, for the same reason forcing guns upon the police wont make chavs respect them because they know full well that just as the police can’t pepper spray or taser them for no good reason they sure as hell can’t shoot them.

They have batons, pepper sprays, rigid handcuffs and increasingly tasers which it would seem the vast majority of serving Police officers here deem adequate for their jobs. Why do you think that you know so much better than them what tools they need and what kind of relationship they should have with the public?

I'll let the situation speak for itself.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? What situation?

And your alternative "halt or I’ll shoot you in the back" is better why exactly?

More like in the leg, or they wouldn't do it in the first place because they'd rightly have fear of pissing off the cops.

No police in any country with the rule of law do that you fuckwit, they are only supposed to shoot if somebody’s life is under imminent threat. Oh and by the way dumbshit shooting people in the leg is a mythical tactic with little or no use outside of Hollywood.

No it's more like halt or I will come after you and you will be surrounded by other police men with in a few seconds because this radios on.

Yeah that works really well.

It’s works a hell of a lot better than your genius tactic of shooting them "in the leg" moron.

And your alternative "halt or I’ll shoot you in the back" is better why exactly?

It's more of a bluff actually. You can say "halt or I'll shoot" but if they call your bluff then there's nothing you can do.

Unless the police officer has probable cause to believe that you would be a danger to the public if you got away. (IE - Hannibal Lecter, is a good fictional example...or Jeffrey Dalmer if you want real)

Even then you'd have to give a VERY good reason why you fired.

Not in the addled mind of Mis Divine Shadow it isn’t whom I was responding to

More like in the leg, or they wouldn't do it in the first place because they'd rightly have fear of pissing off the cops.

he actually wants police officers to shoot people in the back (well in the leg )simply for not obeying the order to halt.

[His Divine Shadow]

And why will the presence of a death dealing weapon on every police officers hip suddenly mean that they’ll be respected by those who don’t do so already?

The police are already quite capable to kick the crap out of the “chav scum” as you put it the reason they don’t is because of a little thing we have here called the rule of law, for the same reason forcing guns upon the police wont make chavs respect them because they know full well that just as the police can’t pepper spray or taser them for no good reason they sure as hell can’t shoot them.

Stop it with this nosense, it's supposed to be there to intimidate.
And if there is reason then it will be used, I am not saying shoot or beat up people for no reason.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? What situation?

You know what situation, in britain.

No police in any country with the rule of law do that you fuckwit, they are only supposed to shoot if somebody’s life is under imminent threat. Oh and by the way dumbshit shooting people in the leg is a mythical tactic with little or no use outside of Hollywood.

*sigh* Take a joke genius.

Not in the addled mind of Mis Divine Shadow it isn’t whom I was responding to

Yeah yeah yeah.

he actually wants police officers to shoot people in the back (well in the leg )simply for not obeying the order to halt.

Lol, this sure got you fired up.
Hey I also think the police should shoot puppies on sight.

[His Divine Shadow]

You know what situation, in britain.

Be serious, britain has aproblem with youth crime and the like.
Maybe you should look at countries that don't for solutions.

[Darth Wong]

Thread locked because of assholes who hijacked it into a gun-control thread. Frankly, I'm fed up with people who knowingly hijack threads and expect no harm to come of it because the mods will carefully strip out their off-topic bullshit and then split it off to a separate thread for them. If any of you wish to complain about the fact that this thread was locked, complain to the people who hijacked it.