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My OOB is now complete, I have given nearly all of my advanced fighters to meet cap. I went from 240 points worth of fighters to 137. The math should all work out at 2000 point fleet.

A final word - every OOB reviewed by me is considered final. No changes to it.

I am sorry, but I already spent 20-30 minutes checking every OOB, I can't be arsed to accommodate last minute requests like "I want to trade two of my ISDs for a few more cruisers" and such.

I need time to retweak the OOB because I just discovered that the price of advanced fighters just increased by a point.

I would imagine that there are a few OOBs that still went with 3 points.

Now on the issue of ground forces, I will start working on a structure eventually but I need time. In any case, I doubt I will be launching mass ground assaults anytime soon what with a general lack of infrastructure to transport the troops for a proper invasion. (There isn't an adequate mass troop transport available anyway)

^Sure there is - the Acclamator, your ISDs, the Star Galleons (though not for assault), Doomgiver.....

Please note:
The Allegiance class does not carry any fighters. It is an oversized Tector.

Updated OOB review status:

OOB review status:

Following OOBs have been approved:
RogueIce
Karmic Knight
SiegeTank

Following OOBs have been reviewed and approved pending minor corrections:
Master_Bearne
Shinn Langley Soryu
darthkommandant

Following OOBs have been reviewed:
Fingolfin_Noldor
Agent Sorchus

Following OOBs have been vetoed:
Czechmate

Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
Mr Bean
Beowulf
DarthShady
Thanas
Coyote
AMT

Following OOBs can not be reviewed as they are not finished:
The Romulan Republic
Raj Ahten

Thanas wrote:^Sure there is - the Acclamator, your ISDs, the Star Galleons (though not for assault), Doomgiver.....

They don't particularly cart around enough war materiel to run a proper ground assault. I expect most homeworlds and Major worlds to require about 1 million troops at the minimum to ensure complete pacification at the minimum (never mind technically a billions strong world can possible field millions strong army at the minimum and might have many more as a militia). It will take 63 or so Acclamators just to cart around 1 million troops.

That is, unless we are saying we are adopting the Traviss Bitch's idea of galactic warfare.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Thanas wrote:^Sure there is - the Acclamator, your ISDs, the Star Galleons (though not for assault), Doomgiver.....

They don't particularly cart around enough war materiel to run a proper ground assault. I expect most homeworlds and Major worlds to require about 1 million troops at the minimum to ensure complete pacification at the minimum (never mind technically a billions strong world can possible field millions strong army at the minimum and might have many more as a militia). It will take 63 or so Acclamators just to cart around 1 million troops.

That is, unless we are saying we are adopting the Traviss Bitch's idea of galactic warfare.

Please read the rules, they show exactly how many armies are fielded. Realism has to take a backseat to gameplay for this one.

Are we considering Assault Gunboats as standard craft costing 2 points per wing or as advanced craft costing 4 points? They are technically about equal to B-wings.

The rules are your friend

Oh, and if suddenly you have 100% Assault Gunboats considering they are standard craft, I shall come down hard on your OOB. Please make sure your OOB is a realistic reflection of Imperial and/or Rebel forces.

Thanas wrote:The rules are your friend

Oh, and if suddenly you have 100% Assault Gunboats considering they are standard craft, I shall come down hard on your OOB. Please make sure your OOB is a realistic reflection of Imperial and/or Rebel forces.

They are considered standard? They were initially placed as advanced... well considering also they are about equal to the B-wing which you placed as advanced craft.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Thanas wrote:The rules are your friend

Oh, and if suddenly you have 100% Assault Gunboats considering they are standard craft, I shall come down hard on your OOB. Please make sure your OOB is a realistic reflection of Imperial and/or Rebel forces.

They are considered standard? They were initially placed as advanced... well considering also they are about equal to the B-wing which you placed as advanced craft.

The rules are final.

To be honest I have no patience to argue this. Not after doing up to 40 hours work on them already. There are gameplay reasons for their status, live with it. Also, they were standard craft, having been introduced alongside the Tie-Interceptor and being part of standard ISD complements.

Thanas wrote:The rules are final.

To be honest I have no patience to argue this. Not after doing up to 40 hours work on them already. There are gameplay reasons for their status, live with it. Also, they were standard craft, having been introduced alongside the Tie-Interceptor and being part of standard ISD complements.

Erm, it's not so much a quibble, it's rather a surprise that they are cheaper than I thought they ought to be. But if you guys are cool with it, OK. It just saves me money and allows me to squeeze a couple more wings.

Anyhow, I have retweaked my OOB. Ignore the fleet distributions; I will retweak that another time but the fleet totals are final.

As an aside, Thanas, I would like to sign a trade pact with the Imperial Remnant. Is that all right with you?

SiegeTank wrote:As an aside, Thanas, I would like to sign a trade pact with the Imperial Remnant. Is that all right with you?

Agreed.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Anyhow, I have retweaked my OOB. Ignore the fleet distributions; I will retweak that another time but the fleet totals are final.

Alright, I'll review it again this evening.

The Star Empire of Manticore wishes to sign trade pacts and exchange ambassadors with:

The Kuat Imperium
The TSAB
The Concordat Alliance
The Gordian Dominion

And has already done so with the Imperial Remnant, the 2nd Corellian Empire, and the Core Protectorate. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

We gladly accept the Star Empire's offer. That makes Manticore the sixth nation with which the Gordian Dominion has signed a trade, the other five being respectively Naboo, Corellia, Kuat, the Shadow Empire and the Imperial Remnant.

Master_Baerne wrote:The Star Empire of Manticore wishes to sign trade pacts and exchange ambassadors with:

The Kuat Imperium
The TSAB
The Concordat Alliance
The Gordian Dominion

And has already done so with the Imperial Remnant, the 2nd Corellian Empire, and the Core Protectorate. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Consider it a done deal.

OOB review status:

Following OOBs have been approved:
RogueIce
Karmic Knight
SiegeTank
Agent Sorchus
Master_Bearne
Fingolfin_Noldor


Following OOBs have been reviewed and approved pending minor corrections:
Shinn Langley Soryu
darthkommandant

Following OOBs have been reviewed:
DarthShady


Following OOBs have been vetoed:
Czechmate

Following OOBs are currently being reviewed:
Mr Bean
Beowulf
Thanas
Coyote
AMT

Following OOBs can not be reviewed as they are not finished:
The Romulan Republic
Raj Ahten

Ok, since we're tackling this in OOC now, here's my trade pact status list:

Imperial Remnant (Thanas)
Star Empire of Manticore (Master_Baerne)
Core Protectorate (Mr Bean)
Imperium of Kuat (Fingolfin_Noldor)
Concordat Alliance (Coyote)
Free Democratic People's Republic of Haven (Beowulf)
Gordian Dominion (SiegeTank)


Temporary Stellar Authority of Balmorra (Agent Sorchus)
League Militaire (Shinn Langley Soryu)


Green are those I know of for sure.
Yellow are those I had some contact with but I'm not sure about agreeing to anything.

The rest of you unlisted I haven't talked to at all, so far as my memory recalls. So you gotta make your pitch and we'll see how it goes. But I wanted to update my own records and keep you all informed. So at the moment, I have seven (7) pacts. And except for Coyote, they're all Imperial to one degree or another, and even Coyote is something of a Republic/Imperial hybrid. So I figure they're justified.

I'm feeling rather mercenary for this game. Anyone who wants a trade pact is free to make one with me.

The approved version of my OOB is up.

Beowulf wrote:I'm feeling rather mercenary for this game. Anyone who wants a trade pact is free to make one with me.

Excellent. I shall propose a trade of Bakuran liqour, fruit, agricultural products from Ruan and of course industrial products from Axum.

Beowulf wrote:I'm feeling rather mercenary for this game. Anyone who wants a trade pact is free to make one with me.

What do you say to a deal on bacta in exchange for foodstuffs? Agri-worlds are something I'm a bit short on.

Beowulf wrote:I'm feeling rather mercenary for this game. Anyone who wants a trade pact is free to make one with me.

Well, I can hardly let that opportunity go by, can I? We'll trade... Oh whatever it is we sell. That's a seventh trade pact in the bag...

I also cannot let that opportunity slip by. Ill trade droid parts for raw materials as I have no real mining worlds.