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Posted: 2004-04-21 01:42am
by InnocentBystander
I would say spies can exist with impunity on most worlds in small numberes.

Posted: 2004-04-21 01:58am
by frigidmagi
It stands to reason that the arcane empire is going to have it's own spies in there as well. It would make sense for whatever covert agency that exist within the Nastar Republic would slip in agents into the CoG populace as well.

Makes this the battle of the spies, doesn't it?

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:07am
by Thirdfain
Sure, and they would certainly be able to destroy the Ouster network (at least those parts of it that are participating in the resistance.) But take spies alive? I don't think so, and even if they were able to , they would have no way of knowing who they work for.

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:27am
by frigidmagi
Seems more likey they would have to run test on dead bodies, yes. You've said genetics wise there's nothing to point the finger at you?

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:32am
by Thirdfain
Yup. Even if the Arcaners knew shit about genetics (which they don't,) or anything detailed about Ouster physiology or genetic tech (which they don't,) the Ouster spies are genetically identical to random human samples picked up long beforehand.

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:33am
by frigidmagi
Crap, thridfain you answered that invite quick!

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:33am
by Thirdfain
Ohgod, Rogue9- are you still replying to that riot? Everyone ran a while ago. Now you've got a couple dozen riots erupting a few dayss later...

Oh, and Frigidmagi, I'm doing a little late-night STGODing.

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:35am
by frigidmagi
By the way, Thridfain how's your ambassdor going to fell about conducting business underground? :twisted:

You know unable to even see the stars and all.

Posted: 2004-04-21 02:38am
by Thirdfain
-shrug- Not a problem. Ouster colonies are warrens-- they have many beautiful transparent halls and meeting-places looking out to space, but most of a cluster is a warren of twisty little tunnels and passages.

Posted: 2004-04-21 03:24am
by frigidmagi
Hey, what's the strandard on covert agenicies? Do we PM Pablo on that and he makes the call?

Posted: 2004-04-21 05:31am
by Dahak
InnocentBystander wrote:I would say spies can exist with impunity on most worlds in small numberes.
It would be well nigh impossible to insert a spy into my place, as he wouldn't be able to do even open a door, lest alone pass as a "local", without access to Datanet and Consensus...
I just *love* thought-control states...

Posted: 2004-04-21 09:10am
by Alyrium Denryle
Once a group of spies begins acting to help resistance forces they can be traced. Now, this isnt to say we will be able to hold this Ouster on charges... Or that he wont swallow a cyanide pill before we can interroagate him.

Spies gathering info is one thing, spies acting to aid an insurgent group become traceable by scent.

Posted: 2004-04-21 09:14am
by Rogue 9
Dahak wrote:
InnocentBystander wrote:I would say spies can exist with impunity on most worlds in small numberes.
It would be well nigh impossible to insert a spy into my place, as he wouldn't be able to do even open a door, lest alone pass as a "local", without access to Datanet and Consensus...
I just *love* thought-control states...
Yes, I realized that little detail about the time you submitted your OOB.

Posted: 2004-04-21 11:17am
by Thirdfain
Once again, Alyrium, while you can certainly catch spoiess and deal with them, the chan ces of you tracing them back to their home nations in any conclusive fashion are very, very low.

Oh, and Bugsby, I would have purchased weapons through a middleman, via convoluted web of middlemen, most likely.

Posted: 2004-04-21 11:39am
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:Once again, Alyrium, while you can certainly catch spoiess and deal with them, the chan ces of you tracing them back to their home nations in any conclusive fashion are very, very low.
Not as low as you seem to imply. The simple fact is that any spies that report back have to leave some trail, convoluted as it may be. I think you're entirely overestimated the ability of spies (which also has the effect of killing a lot of the fun). No one has ever managed to operate spys with out some trails, it's as simple as that.

Posted: 2004-04-21 03:44pm
by Bugsby
Thirdfain wrote:Oh, and Bugsby, I would have purchased weapons through a middleman, via convoluted web of middlemen, most likely.
Eh, maybe. The number of middlemen is kind of irrelevant. The Combine does not betray their contracts. Someone trying to trace Krell weapons would be stopped at the first step. Besides, I was using that aside to add flavor to the post, not to prove anything substantive about Krell/Ouster/Ix'agal relations.

Posted: 2004-04-21 03:45pm
by Thirdfain
K.

Posted: 2004-04-21 09:11pm
by Hotfoot
I have submitted a prospective OOB for this STGOD to the OOB thread. Please let me know if anyone has any suggestions, comments, criticisms, or questions, and I will do my best to respond accordingly. :)

Posted: 2004-04-22 03:38am
by Rogue 9
Whoa, whoa, whoa, hold the phone. Tycho, a brown dwarf is a type of star. I'm pretty sure the system isn't binary, and such a burnt out star would be of no use to you anyway.

Posted: 2004-04-22 03:44am
by Thirdfain
No worries. The 3rd War Cluster is in-system, and will be dissuading them from that course of action through a little Violent Resolution to Conflict

Captain Tycho, I hope you realise this, but the Edean system has a full 3rd of the Ouster fleet present, as well as fledgeling Ouster clusters in it's asteroid fields. We have EMP bombed the surface of the planet and wrecked most, if not all, of their high technology, and are FIRMLY in control of the system. You would have been immediatly detected upon arriving in-system and challenged; you certainly would not have had time to begin build WARSHIPS forgodsdakes.

You gotta be kidding.

Posted: 2004-04-22 04:23am
by frigidmagi
Way to build up ill will Tycho. You realize that crap like that is what got the last two powers beaten on?

Posted: 2004-04-22 04:34am
by Rogue 9
He should know; one of them was his. :P

Posted: 2004-04-22 05:43am
by Captain tycho
Fuck, I didnt read half the prior posts etc etc...gahhh. >_<
*mutters something about utter lack of sleep*
Someone whip me. Please.

Posted: 2004-04-22 12:21pm
by Thirdfain
LOL!

It's ok. I'm sure if you apologize profusely in-game and get out of my system, all will be forgiven.

Posted: 2004-04-22 01:24pm
by Bugsby
So that I am not accused of pulling things out of my ass, Yrt Ztal has the following things with him on his raid:

1 high-power rifle (slung on his back)
2 standard blaster pistols (hip holsters)
6 titanium blades- 6 in long (various places around his body)
20 orb-grenades - various types (thigh pockets)
1 stolen Arcane mage-blade, 8 in. long, cuts through metal like soft cheese (right hip)
1 set of simple neural implants. Feed him time, his location, some enhanced situational awareness, protection from basic psy attacks, etc.
1 Grade-B stealth suit (w bad-ass looking stealth cloak)
1 personal shielding unit (VERY weak, can deflect glancing blows only)
1 set finger-pads (read game thread for more details)

He has the tools, he has the skillz. Now lets see what happens!