Voting third party is generally as useless as staying home.Gandalf wrote: ↑2024-06-02 10:07pmThere are also the options to stay home or vote third party, since neither major candidate is catering to the "genocide is bad" crowd.Broomstick wrote: ↑2024-06-02 08:04pm You're delusional if you think Trump would be any better for anyone. Trump is best buddies with Netanyahu, and Netanyahu can probably play Trump like a fiddle and get whatever he wants.
Unfortunately the choice in November is between those two old men.
This may surprise you, but as horrific as the war crimes in Israel it's not the only life-or-death matter that will be affected by who winds up in the Oval Office.
But sure, let's play your game.
Chase Oliver (Libertarian) called the current mess a genocide. He is the ONLY 3rd party on enough state ballots to actually be able to win. So, OK, he's good for you on that issue but he's rabidly pro-gun which is killing tens of thousands of Americans so may be of more immediate important to people actually living (or trying to) in the US. And he's entirely laissez-faire on climate change, which stands to kill even more people world wide. Oh, and he wants to end all US aid to Ukraine so voting for him to end the Gaza-Israel genocide might result in a Ukrainian genocide so that's a wash. Electing him might save the Gazans (which is definitely good for those people) but it's going to suck for Ukraine and a bunch of other people. I dunno, you tell me - is exchanging one genocide for another a good deal? Yeah, it sort of sucks all around.
Jill Stein (Green) is the only one of the lot in any way pro-Palestinian but hasn't managed to get onto enough ballots to have any chance of winning. Her campaign is doomed from the start. Also, I am unable to vote for her because she has not managed to satisfy the Indiana election board and get on the ballot. Maybe she can get a couple more states to give her even a minimal chance of winning but unlikely at this point. Other than the Libertarians she's the only 3rd Party with any chance of doing that at this point.
RFK, Jr. is openly advocating Israel do more of the same, only harder. Except he has not managed to get on sufficient state ballots to have any possibility of winning.
Cornel West is largely in the "both sides are bad" camp. Not sure he'd do a damn thing, either. Oh, and hasn't managed to get on more than 5 state ballots so, again, no chance of winning.
To hell with it - here's the wiki on US third party candidates. The upshot is that only the Libertarian candidate has any possibility of winning, and is the only one I'd even be able to vote for as he's the only one on the Indiana ballot.
The ONLY chance I have of my little drop in the ocean having any impact whatsoever is to choose between Biden and Trump. Frankly, I don't like either. It would very much be a matter of voting for the lesser evil.
Nor am I going to "stay home" because that would remove my voice in State and local elections where my vote is far less diluted and might actually be able to create a positive change, even if only on a smaller scale than Federal.