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Rob Wilson wrote:

phongn wrote:I assumed that there was a machine shop inside the base, along with the electrical power needed to keep it running.

As for why we only had a few hundred troops, I was lazy and decided only to modify the original scenario a little bit.

*poke* Put an Armoury in then. That way we can expand forces without having to waste time with forges and various stages of incrementally upgraded fabrication techniques introduction to the native smithy's.

I propose we issue single-shot breech loaders to our native militias first.
Btw where do we get steel of the quality we need?

Rob Wilson wrote:

NecronLord wrote:
He's not invunrable, the elves can make weapons that hurt him, he is only a demi-god or deamon, I see no reason we can't persuade them to produce a clip of anti-sauron ammo.

Because the magic to do so no longer exists. Otherwise they'd just make another sword to kill him with and then put the Ring in Orodruin with no worries.

Actually it does, they re-forge Narsil into (I forget the name) with no difficulty at all. Aragorn however doesn't get the chance to use it.

NecronLord wrote: Actually it does, they re-forge Narsil into (I forget the name) with no difficulty at all. Aragorn however doesn't get the chance to use it.

How about we just take a small piece of the broken blade, melt it, make a bullet out of it and shoot Sauron with it?

Cpt_Frank wrote:

NecronLord wrote: Actually it does, they re-forge Narsil into (I forget the name) with no difficulty at all. Aragorn however doesn't get the chance to use it.

How about we just take a small piece of the broken blade, melt it, make a bullet out of it and shoot Sauron with it?

I'd prefer a few clips of them. He is after all, quite large, and has no internal organs, we'd probably need to blow him to bits with them. (the film version was based on a drawing by tolkin IIRC, so thats probably what he looks like.

NecronLord wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

NecronLord wrote:
He's not invunrable, the elves can make weapons that hurt him, he is only a demi-god or deamon, I see no reason we can't persuade them to produce a clip of anti-sauron ammo.

Because the magic to do so no longer exists. Otherwise they'd just make another sword to kill him with and then put the Ring in Orodruin with no worries.

Actually it does, they re-forge Narsil into (I forget the name) with no difficulty at all. Aragorn however doesn't get the chance to use it.

So all we have to do is persuade Aragorn to give up Narsil so we can melt it into Bullet for a Sniper to kill Sauron? Yeah I can see that happ.... Hang on... Oooo "Rob Wilson Demi-God killer", I likes the sound of that.

In all seriousness, there is no suggestion that Anduril had the power to defeat Sauron though it was the reforged Narsil.

Rob Wilson wrote:

In all seriousness, there is no suggestion that Anduril had the power to defeat Sauron though it was the reforged Narsil.

Damn hit post instead of preview.

It could cleave his body, but it was the seperation from the ring that caused Sauron to be defeated that day, not any property of Narsil itself (otherwise it looks like I'm saying the reforging of Narsil would have weakened it's magic when there's no reason to suppose such). So in effect I could shoot him repeatedly and not actually damage him beyond some holes in his armour.

Cpt_Frank wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

phongn wrote:I assumed that there was a machine shop inside the base, along with the electrical power needed to keep it running.

As for why we only had a few hundred troops, I was lazy and decided only to modify the original scenario a little bit.

*poke* Put an Armoury in then. That way we can expand forces without having to waste time with forges and various stages of incrementally upgraded fabrication techniques introduction to the native smithy's.

I propose we issue single-shot breech loaders to our native militias first.
Btw where do we get steel of the quality we need?

We need trade, and as we have all this ammo, I'd rather we had the adequate weapons (that we know are properly made) to shoot it with to give to our trained Militia.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Typhonis 1 wrote:hmmmm we could put spike dropers on the Zepplin how much damage would a finned one pound spike being droped from 1000 feet do?

Probably quite a bit, but how do you aim it and ensure it hit it's target? Just have a rifleman up there.

The French had a few successes dropping clusters of small metal darts, about 500 at a time, from aircraft in 1915. Against troops massed in the open it could work quite well.

Oh yeah, forgot about that. I thought he meant singly.

Cpt_Frank wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: As much as I want to, it's something that is really up to the group. Right now i feel like the grumpy nitpicker that's spoiling everyones fun.

Hey you make your points that's what this thread is for.
We can have the fun when someone writes a fic about this.

Yeah, but it has it's limits. Every post from me right now seems to be "no your wrong, nitpick, nitpick, nitpick!" and quite frankly I'm finding it annoying let alone anyone else. I don't want to spoil peoples fun.

fan fic about this would be really quite interesting.

Rob Wilson wrote: So all we have to do is persuade Aragorn to give up Narsil so we can melt it into Bullet for a Sniper to kill Sauron? Yeah I can see that happ.... Hang on... Oooo "Rob Wilson Demi-God killer", I likes the sound of that.

Actually that would be funny, at least for the fic.

Aragorn stood up in the prancing pony. "I shall never be seperated from this sword, for it was..." NecronLord cut him off, pulling out his pistol and shooting him in the leg. Aragorn screamed, "You shall never have it foul sorceror." He staggered forward, looking threatening.

"Shut the fuck up and hand over the sword bubba." replied Necronlord, putting another bullet in Aragorn's leg...

Actually, it'd be funnier if you tranqued or tazered him.

NecronLord wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: So all we have to do is persuade Aragorn to give up Narsil so we can melt it into Bullet for a Sniper to kill Sauron? Yeah I can see that happ.... Hang on... Oooo "Rob Wilson Demi-God killer", I likes the sound of that.

Actually that would be funny, at least for the fic.

Aragorn stood up in the prancing pony. "I shall never be seperated from this sword, for it was..." NecronLord cut him off, pulling out his pistol and shooting him in the leg. Aragorn screamed, "You shall never have it foul sorceror." He staggered forward, looking threatening.

"Shut the fuck up and hand over the sword bubba." replied Necronlord, putting another bullet in Aragorn's leg...

ROTFLMAO

NecronLord wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: So all we have to do is persuade Aragorn to give up Narsil so we can melt it into Bullet for a Sniper to kill Sauron? Yeah I can see that happ.... Hang on... Oooo "Rob Wilson Demi-God killer", I likes the sound of that.

Actually that would be funny, at least for the fic.

Aragorn stood up in the prancing pony. "I shall never be seperated from this sword, for it was..." NecronLord cut him off, pulling out his pistol and shooting him in the leg. Aragorn screamed, "You shall never have it foul sorceror." He staggered forward, looking threatening.

"Shut the fuck up and hand over the sword bubba." replied Necronlord, putting another bullet in Aragorn's leg...

Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

LadyTevar wrote:Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

Why not? Surely Elrond does not hate the prospect of victory, does he? When we show him what we can do, and tell him that the union of our technology and Elven magic would drive the forces of darkness out of Middle Earth, what reason would he have to say no?

PS. We can always bribe him with porno. In his millenia of existence, this man has never seen porno.

Darth Wong wrote:

LadyTevar wrote:Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

Why not? Surely Elrond does not hate the prospect of victory, does he? When we show him what we can do, and tell him that the union of our technology and Elven magic would drive the forces of darkness out of Middle Earth, what reason would he have to say no?

PS. We can always bribe him with porno. In his millenia of existence, this man has never seen porno.

Givin his power and position, and how many people seem to live in his house, I doubt he has any need of it The real thing is better.

hmm, don't know how I missed this thread.

<----- Pretty decent marksman.

Sea Skimmer wrote:

Darth Wong wrote:

LadyTevar wrote:Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

Why not? Surely Elrond does not hate the prospect of victory, does he? When we show him what we can do, and tell him that the union of our technology and Elven magic would drive the forces of darkness out of Middle Earth, what reason would he have to say no?

PS. We can always bribe him with porno. In his millenia of existence, this man has never seen porno.

Givin his power and position, and how many people seem to live in his house, I doubt he has any need of it The real thing is better.

Elrond would never come up with the concept of a titty-fuck or blasting your load all over an Elvish girl's face without pornographic intervention. I mean, come on. Look at his face. That's the face of a man with shitloads of sexual frustration and no way to vent it.

LadyTevar wrote:

NecronLord wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: So all we have to do is persuade Aragorn to give up Narsil so we can melt it into Bullet for a Sniper to kill Sauron? Yeah I can see that happ.... Hang on... Oooo "Rob Wilson Demi-God killer", I likes the sound of that.

Actually that would be funny, at least for the fic.

Aragorn stood up in the prancing pony. "I shall never be seperated from this sword, for it was..." NecronLord cut him off, pulling out his pistol and shooting him in the leg. Aragorn screamed, "You shall never have it foul sorceror." He staggered forward, looking threatening.

"Shut the fuck up and hand over the sword bubba." replied Necronlord, putting another bullet in Aragorn's leg...

Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

Go read the Book and you'll see that Narsil is revealed in the Prancing Pony After they read Gandalfs letter confirming Striders Identity. In my Complete collection editon it's Page 188 in Chapter ten (entitled Strider).

LadyTevar wrote:Other than the fact that Narsil is kept in Rivendell, and Aragorn never held it until it was reforged? Just tty to convince Elrond to hand it over, and I'm sure that Arawen would not want her love's legacy handed over to strangers either.

This depends on whether you go by the movie or the book, in the book Aragorn had it in the prancing pony.

Rob Wilson wrote: Go read the Book and you'll see that Narsil is revealed in the Prancing Pony After they read Gandalfs letter confirming Striders Identity. In my Complete collection editon it's Page 188 in Chapter ten (entitled Strider).

Damnit I must hit Preview instead of Submit!

The remaining shards are kept in Rivendell, Strider has the sword with a foot or so of blade still attached.

What do you need the sword for anyways? If you are fighting Sauron directly in all likelyhood you have already won, just toss the ring into the volcano and be done with it.

I have written up an updated version of the scenerio, does anyone want me to post it in this thread, or as a new one?

Ren wrote:What do you need the sword for anyways? If you are fighting Sauron directly in all likelyhood you have already won, just toss the ring into the volcano and be done with it.

No your just in Mordor, and Darad Dur is locatd away from Orodruin. If you take the ring in and let him know it, he'll plough straight through your forces until he gets it, hence the need to make him look the other way and attack Gondor because he thought the Ring was there and was not prepared at that point to leave Mordor. The closer the ring gets, the faster he becomes strong again. Just marching i there with the Ring is going to end with a renewed Sauron.

Rob Wilson wrote:No your just in Mordor, and Darad Dur is locatd away from Orodruin. If you take the ring in and let him know it, he'll plough straight through your forces until he gets it, hence the need to make him look the other way and attack Gondor because he thought the Ring was there and was not prepared at that point to leave Mordor. The closer the ring gets, the faster he becomes strong again. Just marching i there with the Ring is going to end with a renewed Sauron.

It seems to me that Sauron does not like to lead his troups directly but rather from his fortress in Bhara Dur, also I don't think he can absorb power from the Ring just be being near it otherwise he would know the approximate distance of the Ring from him by the amount of power he is getting from it and Frodo and Sam would have been screwed.