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Typhonis 1 wrote:OK going by the visuals and some of the rational ghoul dialog. Has it been 200 years since Nuclear War or only 20+?

200 years has passed.

Not that you would be able to tell that by the abundent leftovers, including things like breakfast cereal.

hey twinkies last forever....

Enigma wrote:200 years has passed.

So they say; it's hopelessly inconsistent in the setting however.

Stark wrote:

Enigma wrote:200 years has passed.

So they say; it's hopelessly inconsistent in the setting however.

Oh I know. There is so many small wrong in this game. Being able to find boxed\canned food that is still good to eat though irradiated. Employees desks in office building containing ammunition (what kind of place allows their employees to stash their weapons and ammo in their desk?), bottle caps in places that should not have them. Things here and there that if you were to stop and think you'd go WTF?

Shoots stark and enigma with turbo plasma rifle from Fallout 1, and feeds their remains to Dogmeat.

pay no attention to those two, war never changes.

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Shoots stark and enigma with turbo plasma rifle from Fallout 1, and feeds their remains to Dogmeat.

pay no attention to those two, war never changes.

Enigma reattaches himself while in Dogmeat and kills the mutt from inside then blasts YB with the Alien Blaster.

Oh yeah, that is another thing, you can loot ash piles? Or when you de-limb an opponent and then grab his armor, the unattached limbs still have the armor on.

Does anyone know who put a contract on the PC's head?

Typhonis 1 wrote:OK going by the visuals and some of the rational ghoul dialog. Has it been 200 years since Nuclear War or only 20+?

The INTENTION is for it to have been 200 years, but, probably due to miscommunication in the different teams during development, a lot of it seems to have been just a decade or two after the bombs dropped.

That or those ghouls are a little funny in the head, or over two hundred years old.

I think the answer might be "They have no idea how to tell time."
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Harold? Yeah, he was in the second Fallout.

Yeah, it was at least 150 years since the war ended during Fallout 2.

Apparently Ghouls are pretty long lived. The one in Megaton tells us that some ghouls around today were alive when the bombs fell, and that they age slowly.

GuppyShark wrote:Apparently Ghouls are pretty long lived. The one in Megaton tells us that some ghouls around today were alive when the bombs fell, and that they age slowly.

Well the female ghoul that has the hotel in Underworld is one such, as she even gives you a recounting of when the bombs dropped.

Erik von Nein wrote:Harold? Yeah, he was in the second Fallout.

He was also in the first which was 84 years after the war, and he mentions that he has vague memories of entering a vault at the beginning of the war, so if that were correct he would be at least 200 years old.

Fallout Wiki says that the ghouls were all civillians who entered one particular vault that was designed to not close properly, and the radiation transformed them all into the ghouls of the Fallout series.

Shinova wrote:Fallout Wiki says that the ghouls were all civillians who entered one particular vault that was designed to not close properly, and the radiation transformed them all into the ghouls of the Fallout series.

Actually it just says that most of the ghouls in southern California were from Vault 12 which is also in southern California, and that other ghouls likely have similar origins.

Ohma wrote:

Shinova wrote:Fallout Wiki says that the ghouls were all civillians who entered one particular vault that was designed to not close properly, and the radiation transformed them all into the ghouls of the Fallout series.

Actually it just says that most of the ghouls in southern California were from Vault 12 which is also in southern California, and that other ghouls likely have similar origins.

Like the Chinese Remnant soldiers in the Mama Dolce factory.

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Shoots stark and enigma with turbo plasma rifle from Fallout 1, and feeds their remains to Dogmeat.

pay no attention to those two, war never changes.

Plasma rifle barely has a range of 30 squares, how you gotta hit either of us from across the US?

And a better question than 'who put a price on your head' would be 'why would anyone accept such a contract when you've defeated the US military, thousands of bandits, a city full of deathclaws and eight previous assassination attempts'. Idiots, clearly.

Stark wrote:

The Yosemite Bear wrote:Shoots stark and enigma with turbo plasma rifle from Fallout 1, and feeds their remains to Dogmeat.

pay no attention to those two, war never changes.

Plasma rifle barely has a range of 30 squares, how you gotta hit either of us from across the US?

And a better question than 'who put a price on your head' would be 'why would anyone accept such a contract when you've defeated the US military, thousands of bandits, a city full of deathclaws and eight previous assassination attempts'. Idiots, clearly.

My first encounter after leaving the vault (even before molerats) were Talon mercs talking about how i'd been a goody good yacross the waists. (Despite not even getting to Megaton yet).

LOL! I didn't see the random encounter guys until relatively lategame (when there was actually a reason for people to want to kill me) so it was just pew pew they're all dead. Then it started happening semi-regularly, and they always get obliterated in ten seconds maximum. That's no way to run a mercenary company.

Stark wrote:LOL! I didn't see the random encounter guys until relatively lategame (when there was actually a reason for people to want to kill me) so it was just pew pew they're all dead. Then it started happening semi-regularly, and they always get obliterated in ten seconds maximum. That's no way to run a mercenary company.

And have you read the reward for killing the player? 1k caps or equivalent in expended equipment or medical treatment\supplies. In other words the mercs will be given a small sum of money for killing the player compared to the fact they'll have lost many men or instead of cash they'll be given the equivalent in used up (i.e. crap) equipment or medical treatment. If I'd be given that contract, I'd have laughed and ripped it up.

Playing as a pure neutral for the whole game meant I had to fight off both Talon mercs and Regulators. At one point I killed a Talon hit squad just outside Rivet city, walked inside and encountered a Regulator hit squad.

Though they say the setting is 200 years after the nukes I don't buy it, and just pretend any NPCs who say so are obviously insane from radiation. I mean little Lamplight?! Rivet city being a huge settlement while only having maybe 100 people?! No wai.

Also after 200 years there may not be anty buldings left due to erosion or in Rivet Citys casde rust.

Typhonis 1 wrote:Also after 200 years there may not be anty buldings left due to erosion or in Rivet Citys casde rust.

Not necessarily. Buildings of the Roman empire are still around, and are well over 1.5 millenia old. 200 years would certainly take their toll, but they would still be up.

Wow, I should have seen this coming.
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