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PEACE BETWEEN ALL SCI-FI FANS.
Why thats a wonderful idea! I know we should have all the Sci-Fi fans get togther and talk about Peace!

I know! We can hold it right next to the National Nergo Allance yearly picknick with the KKK! Its the best of times, They all get togther and sings songs around the Camp-Fire and

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Darth Wong wrote:Well, that was certainly entertaining, wasn't it? I'm waiting for Bernd to reply to my E-mail, but I doubt I'll get a reply.

Never a dull moment :)
Keep us informed. I'd love to see him receive the Imperial Smackdown (tm) he so richly deserves. :)
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Having skimmed through their announcements forum, I finally understand why they're so paranoid about an invasion. What they've done to this board in past, and how they gloated about it, is enough to declare three jihads.

Luckily for them, they're not worth the trouble.
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You mean quotes like this, from our benevolent moralizing sanctimonious friends at EAS who scream like stuck pigs when I use the word "followers" while simultaneously saying things like this?
Fenis Demens CCXXI wrote:We're all aware of the nature of the StarDestroyer.net boards; tumultuous, foul-mouthed, et cetera. But their minds are set, unable to be changed. Let them stay that way.
And yes, Minutaeman is trying to say that I've completely lost the high ground for remarking on Schneider's ridiculous claim that field-based technologies automatically mean perfect accuracy, as if an on-topic technical criticism is somehow just as heinous as a string of personal attacks on character over a period of years.

But of course, they're the morally superior ones, right? Even though they sent trolls over here :roll:
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Bernt wrote:This is much worse than I thought. It just isn't possible to be more narrow-minded, ignorant and intolerant than the guys over there. Of course, if someone comes along to a closed community and makes some critical remarks, he is subject to be flamed.

But you made all valid points, Ed - or at least points that should be taken into consideration and commented. But instead of listening they only come up with their usual prejudices and completely irrelevant findings and take it down to insults. I once made a quite similar experience with fanatic followers in a forum where I posted (although the topic was not scifi but something completely different).

And what are the threats about your name and IP about? Since when is it required to reveal one's real name and IP to everyone? Wong's law?

That place is a stinking hell of fascist assholes. If Wong has any honor left, he should close it down, for the benefit of the whole SW fandom which is damaging its own reputation there.
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Isn't this the guy calling for the "truce"
Although I did go over there, I didnt try to stir anything up, and I did not connect us to them in any way, different nick and everything. And im using a firewall with IP blocker on so I doubt with someone with as little IQ as they have would be able to crack it. :-D
Gotta love these:
Maybe we should change the title to:

'IDIC, or why rabid Warsies on the SD net forum should be left with their heads stuck up their hindquarters'.

Do they try to prove that the Imperialists can destroy any UFP ship with a single shot??? I'd like to see that. Sometimes ignorance is bliss...
Maybe not, but I wouldn't risk it. If you gotta go over there, use the IP blocker and a different name. I personally find their arguments without logic and you'd probably keep your sanity a little better if you just stay here. It's safe here...
Jesus, and they say we are out of line when we start insulting back.
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It speaks volumes about this guy's technical aptitude that he thinks an 'ip blocking firewall' is even technically possible.
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Enlightenment wrote:It speaks volumes about this guy's technical aptitude that he thinks an 'ip blocking firewall' is even technically possible.
He obviously thinks that NAT hides his IP, when all it does is hide the internal IP addresses of his LAN, not his connection to the Internet, which is the only IP that matters for tracking people down. What a genius :roll:
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Well, Would it be possible to figure out who this guy is, just for shits and giggles? He would have been posting around early september or atleast stopped shortly after the 11th.
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Why don't you just go there and ask him? See if he has the balls to own up to it.
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As long as I don't catch flak for it here and get banned for "starting a forum war' I'm up for it.

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Oh, it was easy to find out

The fuckers are here
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Enlightenment wrote:It speaks volumes about this guy's technical aptitude that he thinks an 'ip blocking firewall' is even technically possible.
Fuck you beat me to it.
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Ender wrote:As long as I don't catch flak for it here and get banned for "starting a forum war' I'm up for it.
*flak* Leave the paranoids alone. If the rabid trekkies want to bash us they have every right to do so on their turf. We have every right to bash them on our turf.

Don't turn this into a board war.
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Look at what they posted, then:
EAS trolls wrote:Actually, it all comes down to that you have your heads up your asses so much that you wont accept anything different than Wars, and anything shlightly off your opinion you bash mindlessly using a bad combination of fact and fasification because you are scared to admit that just because you like Wars better than other Sci-fi, others are just as good oand other people have opinions different than you.
Oh, but of course, we're the bad guys. After all, trashing a TV show is really no different than trashing individual human beings :roll:
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Colonel Olrik wrote:Oh, it was easy to find out

The fuckers are here
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Faram wrote:
Enlightenment wrote:It speaks volumes about this guy's technical aptitude that he thinks an 'ip blocking firewall' is even technically possible.
Fuck you beat me to it.
Just to clarify a bit.

A firewall can quite easely be made to discard all requests from a sourece ip.

IE If I don't want anyone from the ip 1.2.3.4 to access my site at 127.0.0.1 I just put in a rule.

Source ip 1.2.3.4, destination port any, tcp/udp action drop.

But that is not the issue here :D
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Enlightenment wrote:
Ender wrote:As long as I don't catch flak for it here and get banned for "starting a forum war' I'm up for it.
*flak* Leave the paranoids alone. If the rabid trekkies want to bash us they have every right to do so on their turf. We have every right to bash them on our turf.

Don't turn this into a board war.
They've been conducting a board war for some time; they were just hoping we wouldn't notice, and now they're screaming "no mas!" the minute we find out. Pathetic.
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Posted at 0559 EST.

Lets see how long before it gets deleted
1) Your Moderator Felis is a liar, plain and simple. I was the one who posted here under troll hater, and I plainly stated I was from SD.net. So his claims about running an IP are just plain false. Especially since if you run an IP check it wouldn't trace back to a site I visit, it will run back to my computer. An obvious attempt to make himself look more computer literate then he is.

2) I find it funny that I was charged with trying to start a forum war by invading when it was your people who went to SD.net. Tell me, did Poland start WW2 by letting them selves be invaded now?

3) The sheer gall of this makes me laugh. Nathan F. is the biggest proponent of this "truce". Yet in the announcements forum, he states
Although I did go over there, I didnt try to stir anything up, and I did not connect us to them in any way, different nick and everything. And im using a firewall with IP blocker on so I doubt with someone with as little IQ as they have would be able to crack it. :-D
Ignoring the fact that he does not understand how an IP block works, he is the one who insults us, then when this pops up in here saying we should all get along. Now it would be easy to dig up who he was, but the thing here is to see if he has the balls to admit which nick he used. I'm betting it was Trek Representitive, but I'm also betting he won't respond to this.
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God you are all a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

And I now fully expect you spineless and decietful mod will delete this post. That or threaten me with another C&D order (which shows he knows fuck all about the legal system as well if he thinks he can get me for simple post on a message board that is completely truthful).
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Jesus I fucked up the time. 1759, sorry.

And look what was posted within one minute
Nathan F wrote:I would also like to publicly apologize of anything I might have said in the past, as I probably said it while I was mad as a hornet and not thinking clearly.
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These fucking hypocrites have been pretending to be against everything that they've been doing to us for months now. It's about time they were called on it. And their "apologies" have been:

A) made on their board for the benefit of their members, not here

B) if made here, invariably combined with yet another put-down and declaration that they were basically right, they just worded it too harshly.

Unbelievable. If Nathan F is sorry, why doesn't he come here and apologize to the people he insulted, instead of doing it FOR THE BENEFIT OF HIS FRIENDS?
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I enjoy how one of them compared us to a bunch of slavering orgs... that just :: sniffle :: hits the heart...

From what I've read, a logical arguement for some of them there seems to be: deface ones opponent in the hope break their credabilty thus winning...
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Darth Wong wrote:They've been conducting a board war for some time;
They sent a herd of Klingons over here in August, got their heads handed to them, decided to retreat and have pretty much left us alone every since. EAS has continued to bash you and this board but bashing doesn't constitute a board war.

Many people here bash SB regularly and, until Kier's proclamation that SBers shall have no boards before his, vice versa. This is really little different than the situation between EAS and SD I don't believe anyone would argue that we're at war with SB.

As you said, the right to free speech does not extent to spraypainting slogans on someone elses' garage door. EAS has a right to their (stupid, benighted, paranoid, kookish, take your pick) views and I don't believe we--as a board--should esclate the disagreement by encouraging anything resembling an invasion of their fourms.
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Darth Wong, please continue to do what you do best: unleashing the Imperial Smackdown. :twisted:
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Enlightenment wrote:As you said, the right to free speech does not extent to spraypainting slogans on someone elses' garage door. EAS has a right to their (stupid, benighted, paranoid, kookish, take your pick) views and I don't believe we--as a board--should esclate the disagreement by encouraging anything resembling an invasion of their fourms.
I don't know about an actual invasion, but pointing out their hypocrisy and sanctimonious bullshit is certainly fair game.
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