New Live action Halo Short

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-09-24 04:34pm

Holy fuck.

The only thing that could make that video better would be to see some Elites fighting alongside Marines...

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2007-09-24 04:37pm

Darth Wong wrote:Holy shit.

I never thought I'd see the day that mike was impressed by anything halo.

Ryan Thunder · Post by **Ryan Thunder** » 2007-09-24 04:48pm

Well, he didn't actually qualify. Maybe he meant "Holy shit, that sucked..."

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-09-24 06:49pm

That was really intense. Especially the work that the combat medic did. I mean, sawing through the spike to free someone? Badass.

I wonder if it has actual relation to the plot though. I mean, why do you need a guy on the ground to laser track a reentry, when you can just watch it from miles away?

Nevertheless, awesome video. I hope to see more of this stuff, perhaps in a full-length movie?

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-09-24 06:49pm

EDIT: oh, and to that comment about the wires and unnatural thing... maybe that weapon was a gravity hammer?

Laird · Post by **Laird** » 2007-09-24 08:16pm

Hawkwings wrote:That was really intense. Especially the work that the combat medic did. I mean, sawing through the spike to free someone? Badass.

I wonder if it has actual relation to the plot though. I mean, why do you need a guy on the ground to laser track a reentry, when you can just watch it from miles away?

Nevertheless, awesome video. I hope to see more of this stuff, perhaps in a full-length movie?

It has everything to do with the plot of halo 3, it connects to the opening cinematics of Halo 3.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-24 08:44pm

I dunno, I've watched those two vids and the other stuff... it just leaves me going "This is the best they can do?" It looks awful. Terrible little contrived junkyard scene, awful little green blobs that apparently have the same explosive force as a waterballoon filled with gasoline, and a few ugly bear monsters who apparently consider throwing axes around as the primary means of defeating a guy armed with machineguns. It reminds me of Starship Troopers in a very bad way.

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-09-24 08:55pm

Covenant wrote:I dunno, I've watched those two vids and the other stuff... it just leaves me going "This is the best they can do?" It looks awful. Terrible little contrived junkyard scene, awful little green blobs that apparently have the same explosive force as a waterballoon filled with gasoline, and a few ugly bear monsters who apparently consider throwing axes around as the primary means of defeating a guy armed with machineguns. It reminds me of Starship Troopers in a very bad way.

Apparently the contrived junkyard connects to the story, so it's not so contrived. No idea about the blobs, but did you miss the Brutes shooting metal spikes at the marines? The "axes" were spike grenades, apparently with enough power to one-shot a banshee. And did you miss the part where the Brutes won?

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-09-24 08:59pm

Hawkwings wrote:
Covenant wrote:I dunno, I've watched those two vids and the other stuff... it just leaves me going "This is the best they can do?" It looks awful. Terrible little contrived junkyard scene, awful little green blobs that apparently have the same explosive force as a waterballoon filled with gasoline, and a few ugly bear monsters who apparently consider throwing axes around as the primary means of defeating a guy armed with machineguns. It reminds me of Starship Troopers in a very bad way.
Apparently the contrived junkyard connects to the story, so it's not so contrived. No idea about the blobs, but did you miss the Brutes shooting metal spikes at the marines? The "axes" were spike grenades, apparently with enough power to one-shot a banshee. And did you miss the part where the Brutes won?

Actually, I'm pretty sure the axes were Gravity Hammers or some such. Just with something like a self-destruct mode...

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-24 09:01pm

No, I got that. I just thought it looked really lame, all Halo-verse explinations aside. I got the pic of metal spikes, which also looked absolutely ridiculous, especially when that guy got pinned to a wall. Frankly I think a bullet would have done a lot better in that situation than a giant piece of ballistic rebar.

Even if it connects to the story, why a junkyard? Does it need to be in a junkyard with bizzare concrete walls everywhere? If that's where Halo 3 starts, then I'd consider that also contrived. Who fights over a junkyard? Is there some sort of amazing bunker hidden there, and that big dish is connected to it? If so, then why is there a junkyard OUTSIDE of the ultra bunker? Don't tell me that Halo's level design didn't occasionally drift into the "This is a little gamey, we know" catagory! Heh.

Even if that crud is indeed crud from the game, it is still crud. I thought it looked lame, doesn't matter what material it's based on.

Molyneux · Post by **Molyneux** » 2007-09-24 09:14pm

Covenant wrote:No, I got that. I just thought it looked really lame, all Halo-verse explinations aside. I got the pic of metal spikes, which also looked absolutely ridiculous, especially when that guy got pinned to a wall. Frankly I think a bullet would have done a lot better in that situation than a giant piece of ballistic rebar.

Even if it connects to the story, why a junkyard? Does it need to be in a junkyard with bizzare concrete walls everywhere? If that's where Halo 3 starts, then I'd consider that also contrived. Who fights over a junkyard? Is there some sort of amazing bunker hidden there, and that big dish is connected to it? If so, then why is there a junkyard OUTSIDE of the ultra bunker? Don't tell me that Halo's level design didn't occasionally drift into the "This is a little gamey, we know" catagory! Heh.

Even if that crud is indeed crud from the game, it is still crud. I thought it looked lame, doesn't matter what material it's based on.

I would really, really rather get shot by a bullet than by one of those giant metal spikes. And why do you think it's a junkyard? Looks like bombed-out ruins to me.

Natorgator · Post by **Natorgator** » 2007-09-24 09:34pm

Hawkwings wrote:That was really intense. Especially the work that the combat medic did. I mean, sawing through the spike to free someone? Badass.

I wonder if it has actual relation to the plot though. I mean, why do you need a guy on the ground to laser track a reentry, when you can just watch it from miles away?

Nevertheless, awesome video. I hope to see more of this stuff, perhaps in a full-length movie?

To me it was a spartan laser and it looked like he was about to shoot it down until they saw the UNSC friendly tags.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2007-09-24 09:50pm

Covenant wrote:Who fights over a junkyard? Is there some sort of amazing bunker hidden there, and that big dish is connected to it?

Tell me about it. Did you ever watch Blackhawk Down? In that movie, they have this long fight in some crappy burned-out building that looks like an empty warehouse. Who fights over a big ruined empty warehouse? Is there some sort of amazing bunker hiddden there?

Oops, that one actually happened in real-life.

Hawkwings · Post by **Hawkwings** » 2007-09-24 10:01pm

Natorgator wrote:
Hawkwings wrote:That was really intense. Especially the work that the combat medic did. I mean, sawing through the spike to free someone? Badass.

I wonder if it has actual relation to the plot though. I mean, why do you need a guy on the ground to laser track a reentry, when you can just watch it from miles away?

Nevertheless, awesome video. I hope to see more of this stuff, perhaps in a full-length movie?
To me it was a spartan laser and it looked like he was about to shoot it down until they saw the UNSC friendly tags.

I thought their mission was to track MC's re-entry so they could get to him or something. Why they needed that laser in the junkyard/ruins I have no idea.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2007-09-24 10:04pm

I got the feeling that when they were fighting near the entrance, that it was the entrance to a simple bomb shelter, or maybe an outpost of some sort. And yeah, I figured the laser was some sort of device to spot the MC in the debris coming down so the Search and Rescue bird could get to him faster.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-24 10:12pm

Molyneux wrote:I would really, really rather get shot by a bullet than by one of those giant metal spikes. And why do you think it's a junkyard? Looks like bombed-out ruins to me.

The big thing didn't really seem to do that much damage though. It went right through him, but it's not like it left a nice big exit wound or something. The reason I said a bullet would be more effective is that it seemed like the guys who got hit with them were visibly in pain, but not KO'd or otherwise disabled. Rambo with his shoulder to the wall was still using the laser-tracking device, wasn't he?

It seems like a big fancy badass weapon, but not one that was horribly useful, and I didn't really think it demonstrated that great of a lethality. It seems to have knockdown potential, but... are they belt fed? Do they have a clip? Wouldn't it be easier to have real-sized bullets? Imagine the kickback from a giant thorn-launcher like that, too! Even if the big wookiemen are capable of firing them one-handed just fine, you'd think some kind of conventional gun would just be better and less technologically advanced.

Darth Wong wrote:Tell me about it. Did you ever watch Blackhawk Down? In that movie, they have this long fight in some crappy burned-out building that looks like an empty warehouse. Who fights over a big ruined empty warehouse? Is there some sort of amazing bunker hiddden there?

Oops, that one actually happened in real-life.

As we all know, that's because they got shot down, it certainly wasn't their battlefield of choice. I was honestly asking though, why are they in a junkyard. My computer's audio is completely fried for the moment--I can't play any audio whatsoever--so I have no idea if there was a specific reason for them to be battling over this junkfield. It seems like the marines are attempting to resist an incursion of badguys, but they had some kind of helicopter with the Warthog available, so I'm confused about that. And the badguys seem to be able to drop in more wookies nearly at will, as well as have complete air control. At the end, a big enemy force arrives (I presume that's enemy, yes?) and they go down into the bunkery looking thing.

So is it just a really messy human military post, or what? If their air support has been shot down and they're stuck there, then it is a Blackhawk Down situation. But if they're just fighting over this worthless piece of shit junkyard, then that's kinda stupid.

Ryan Thunder · Post by **Ryan Thunder** » 2007-09-24 10:27pm

Hawkwings wrote:
Covenant wrote:I dunno, I've watched those two vids and the other stuff... it just leaves me going "This is the best they can do?" It looks awful. Terrible little contrived junkyard scene, awful little green blobs that apparently have the same explosive force as a waterballoon filled with gasoline, and a few ugly bear monsters who apparently consider throwing axes around as the primary means of defeating a guy armed with machineguns. It reminds me of Starship Troopers in a very bad way.
Apparently the contrived junkyard connects to the story, so it's not so contrived. No idea about the blobs, but did you miss the Brutes shooting metal spikes at the marines? The "axes" were spike grenades, apparently with enough power to one-shot a banshee. And did you miss the part where the Brutes won?

Didn't look like that to me... Looked more like they were getting their asses kicked... That one that got splattered was the last one...

Then, of course, their air support showed up.

The spike grenade downing the Banshee was stupid, just because it actually hit it directly...

Heck, Spikers are stupid because they don't seem to actually kill people...

And yes, the plasma bolt was rather underwhelming, but it doesn't seem to be much more effective than that in the game, so...

Pulp Hero · Post by **Pulp Hero** » 2007-09-24 10:30pm

Maybe its a two minute short and you are nickpicking the plot, which there isn't enough time to explain because it is going so fast and furious, and ignoring the badass(though visibly underfunded) action sequence.

Look I don't like the Halo games. At all. But you're trying to deny that the Halo universe is fucking awesome. I mean, fuck this is some of the best sci-fi combat I've seen in a long time.

Pulp Hero · Post by **Pulp Hero** » 2007-09-24 10:31pm

^Was in response to 'Covenant'

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2007-09-24 10:36pm

You know, I just watched it again, and it looks like they are at a large comm base. When they are driving in the hog, there is a half blown away comm dish, and it looks like the whole random wall things, is part of a perimeter defense.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-24 10:56pm

Pulp Hero wrote:Maybe its a two minute short and you are nickpicking the plot, which there isn't enough time to explain because it is going so fast and furious, and ignoring the badass(though visibly underfunded) action sequence.

Look I don't like the Halo games. At all. But you're trying to deny that the Halo universe is fucking awesome. I mean, fuck this is some of the best sci-fi combat I've seen in a long time.

I'm not nitpicking the plot--I have no idea what the plot is. I'm saying that I'm not seeing any fucking awesome anything, or any badass action. It's some guys firing assault rifles at wookies while standard inaccurate alien weapons chew up concrete walls. It's really not a very exciting firefight. So yes, I most certainly am denying the Halo univere's awesomeness based on these clips. This fight looks way less intense than most of the nBSG ground battles I've seen.

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-24 11:05pm

Covenant wrote:I'm not nitpicking the plot--I have no idea what the plot is.

And just to be clear, that's not because I think the plot is bad, it's because my sound is on the fritz and I can't hear it. I'm only commenting on the visuals, which I think did a disservice to what could have been a very badass Master Chief killfest. Something more like the 3d animated Halo teaser-trailer.

ray245 · Post by **ray245** » 2007-09-24 11:54pm

For all you know, the master chief live action clip will be released some time soon...

Covenant · Post by **Covenant** » 2007-09-25 12:07am

ray245 wrote:For all you know, the master chief live action clip will be released some time soon...

When it is, I doubt I'll have anything to criticize.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2007-09-25 01:35am

Ryan Thunder wrote: The spike grenade downing the Banshee was stupid, just because it actually hit it directly...

1 in a million hit.

Heck, Spikers are stupid because they don't seem to actually kill people...

Uhm.. it sure as shit killed the guy they hit in the chest. The two we see survive spiker hits got hit in the lower abdomen and in the arm, not exactly the sort of places that result in instant death.