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well mentioned this in a simular thread, the most wanktarded scene in Saving Private Ryan. Which is actually inspired by the scene where a guy gets shot through the glasses in Battleship Topenkin(sp) if you try to shoot someone through a multipal lense scope, you will shatter the scope, a few inches away you will hit their face, or be close enough to their head that they will abandon their sniper position and move away.

It's physically imposible to shot someone through the scope.

The Yosemite Bear wrote:well mentioned this in a similar thread, the most wanktarded scene in Saving Private Ryan. Which is actually inspired by the scene where a guy gets shot through the glasses in Battleship Topenkin(sp) if you try to shoot someone through a multipal lens scope, you will shatter the scope, a few inches away you will hit their face, or be close enough to their head that they will abandon their sniper position and move away.

It's physically impossible to shot someone through the scope.

Unless you are using ARMOR PIERCING rounds, see Mythbusters.

TithonusSyndrome wrote:This isn't just limited to action movies, but the cartoonish operating systems that make constant beeping sounds for the most mundane actions, like scrolling some text across the screen, and resemble no kind of OS whatsoever. I guess this isn't as bad as it was in the 90's, though.

Arg, that really gets under my skin. It's like sound and vfx editors are stuck in the eighties back when so few people had com-pyew-torrs that they were still this sort of enigmatic magical box that could do anything. It's just so fucking bizarre since nearly everyone and their grandma has a computer now, and none of them beep and shit just by typing in MS Word.

Everybody uses Macs.

Decoying infrared guided missiles, with road flares unless the movie is set in like 1970 or something

The idea that concealment = cover. I mean, dude, come on. Bullets penetrate people. They should be able to penetrate the flimsy drywall corner Mr. Protagonist is hiding behind, but oops, he comes out just fine. I always laugh when I see people take cover behind ordinary cars, it's just that pathetic; two flimsy layers of sheet metal and upholstry won't stop bullets.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned this - but also guns running out of ammo for coup-de-graces. Mr. Action Hero fires hundreds of rounds out of an ordinary pistol without reloading, reaches Mr. Bad Guy, then when he pulls the trigger, click! Oops, now we get to throw in a big fake martial-arts scene! Most directors don't realize a self-loading pistol will lock open when it's empty.

Weapons, especially automatic ones, that "click" 2-3 times when they run out. Huh.

The Yosemite Bear wrote:well mentioned this in a simular thread, the most wanktarded scene in Saving Private Ryan. Which is actually inspired by the scene where a guy gets shot through the glasses in Battleship Topenkin(sp) if you try to shoot someone through a multipal lense scope, you will shatter the scope, a few inches away you will hit their face, or be close enough to their head that they will abandon their sniper position and move away.

It's physically imposible to shot someone through the scope.

Unless you're Charles Hathcock, apparently.

Coyote wrote:Weapons, especially automatic ones, that "click" 2-3 times when they run out. Huh.

That also said I also hate how movie guns always sound like a jackhammer bit breaking off when their users pull the slide. When I handled pistols at my safety course, they made mechanical clicking sounds when I loaded or unloaded them, but it was nowhere near as sharp, loud or overstated as the ones in the movies.

Davey wrote:

Coyote wrote:Weapons, especially automatic ones, that "click" 2-3 times when they run out. Huh.

That also said I also hate how movie guns always sound like a jackhammer bit breaking off when their users pull the slide.

Don't forget that they pull the slide pretty much all the time just to look like they mean business. Damn, they are so goddamned cool when they do so, doesn't look like idiots at all

Decue wrote:

Davey wrote:

Coyote wrote:Weapons, especially automatic ones, that "click" 2-3 times when they run out. Huh.

That also said I also hate how movie guns always sound like a jackhammer bit breaking off when their users pull the slide.

Don't forget that they pull the slide pretty much all the time just to look like they mean business. Damn, they are so goddamned cool when they do so, doesn't look like idiots at all

In Die Hard, when McCain was talking to Hans Gruber face-to-face he kept randomly pulling back the slide every few seconds just to show off. Of course, the gun is empty.

Let's not forget the "Computers can do anything" wank that I saw on Cracked once. If movies had their way, anyone with a computer and hacking ability could basically control the world and destroy entire countries at will.

chitoryu12 wrote:
In Die Hard, when McCain was talking to Hans Gruber face-to-face he kept randomly pulling back the slide every few seconds just to show off. Of course, the gun is empty.

As in, its empty in the story and the character knows its empty? 'Cause thats actually kinda awesome.

Also McCain? Fruedian slip?

McClane. At the time, he's face to face with the villain, but thanks to Alan Rickman's skilled imitation of an American accent, John McClane wasn't quite sure if he was a terrorist or a hostage who managed to escape. He gave him the pistol, and kept the SMG for himself.

"Ahhh.... no bullets. You're so fucking stupid Hans."

Davey wrote:The idea that concealment = cover. I mean, dude, come on. Bullets penetrate people. They should be able to penetrate the flimsy drywall corner Mr. Protagonist is hiding behind, but oops, he comes out just fine. I always laugh when I see people take cover behind ordinary cars, it's just that pathetic; two flimsy layers of sheet metal and upholstry won't stop bullets.

And here's proof of that. As a note, there is a chance that the bullet will hit a more solid portion of the seat, so it is possible, though unlikely, for a seat to do more than offer concealment. But as far as doors go, shy of the door being bullet-proofed, it does about as much good as cardboard.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned this - but also guns running out of ammo for coup-de-graces. Mr. Action Hero fires hundreds of rounds out of an ordinary pistol without reloading, reaches Mr. Bad Guy, then when he pulls the trigger, click! Oops, now we get to throw in a big fake martial-arts scene! Most directors don't realize a self-loading pistol will lock open when it's empty.

Well, that does depend on the gun. But yeah, most will lock in place after running out.

The best part is when due to the armourer (I guess) only loading x many rounds into the magazine, at the end of many shots you can SEE the autoloader lock to the rear on an empty magazine. Of course, you're not supposed to see that because they don't run out until LATER. Bad editing ftw!

<Box'o'Truth demostration>

And cops are trained to use their car's doors as cover? I certainly hope cop cars have sturdier doors than regular cars.

LordOskuro wrote:I certainly hope cop cars have sturdier doors than regular cars.

I think they do have reinforced doors for just this purpose.

How about INTERROGATION scenes? Pretty much every action movie has a scene where someone gets captured and meets the villain face to face. This is usually the only express purpose it serves, I wouldn't mind so much if it was always followed up by a contrived escape sequence that usually falls between "stealth" cliches (sneaking through man sized vents, taking down radio-less sentries with knives) of the usual "Protagonist SMASH" forced exit of the villain's base.

Oh that's another thing, I'm tired of Spec Ops dudes who knife sentries to look elite. Um, dude, that guy is probably on a shift. Forgetting how miraculous it is that he's carrying out this jungle patrol alone, (or so you think) if he doesn't complete his radio check at the next interval or show up at the checkpoint, they're going to raise the alarm.

CaptHawkeye wrote:Oh that's another thing, I'm tired of Spec Ops dudes who knife sentries to look elite. Um, dude, that guy is probably on a shift. Forgetting how miraculous it is that he's carrying out this jungle patrol alone, (or so you think) if he doesn't complete his radio check at the next interval or show up at the checkpoint, they're going to raise the alarm.

Unless you're enough of a badass to knife all of the sentries and anyone coordinating them before they catch on! Bwa ha ha ha! But seriously, yeah.

Setzer wrote:McClane. At the time, he's face to face with the villain, but thanks to Alan Rickman's skilled imitation of an American accent, John McClane wasn't quite sure if he was a terrorist or a hostage who managed to escape. He gave him the pistol, and kept the SMG for himself.

"Ahhh.... no bullets. You're so fucking stupid Hans."

I'm left wondering how Hans didn't even notice the weight distribution of his weapon was off by the lack of bullets. A handgun missing its ammo is going to be a LOT lighter than one that's loaded.

Peptuck wrote:

Setzer wrote:McClane. At the time, he's face to face with the villain, but thanks to Alan Rickman's skilled imitation of an American accent, John McClane wasn't quite sure if he was a terrorist or a hostage who managed to escape. He gave him the pistol, and kept the SMG for himself.

"Ahhh.... no bullets. You're so fucking stupid Hans."

I'm left wondering how Hans didn't even notice the weight distribution of his weapon was off by the lack of bullets. A handgun missing its ammo is going to be a LOT lighter than one that's loaded.

Hans seemed more like a planner than a guy who's going to be shooting alot of people. Plus, he was rather distracted with McClane in front of him.

Pulp Hero wrote:

chitoryu12 wrote:
In Die Hard, when McCain was talking to Hans Gruber face-to-face he kept randomly pulling back the slide every few seconds just to show off. Of course, the gun is empty.

As in, its empty in the story and the character knows its empty? 'Cause thats actually kinda awesome.

Also McCain? Fruedian slip?

Yes. It's empty because he knowns that the hostage he's talking to is actually a terrorist, so he gives him an empty gun, knowing he'll try to shoot him.

Edit: Damn, forgot to read the rest of the thread.

Davey wrote:I'm surprised nobody mentioned this - but also guns running out of ammo for coup-de-graces. Mr. Action Hero fires hundreds of rounds out of an ordinary pistol without reloading, reaches Mr. Bad Guy, then when he pulls the trigger, click! Oops, now we get to throw in a big fake martial-arts scene! Most directors don't realize a self-loading pistol will lock open when it's empty.

I mentioned it in the very first reply of this thread.

Incidently, I love how when the protagonist is a cop, he can rack up a damned impressive bodycount and the department won't even blink an eye.

Unless it's a plot point that he be suspended. In which case he'll still take the law into his own hands and then kill the Main Bad Guy and probably a bunch of henchmen, while suspended...and All Shall Be Forgiven.

On that note, how often are cops portrayed realistically? Most often they are only shown to be either "sheriff's in town"/"texas ranger" style wolves or people highly tied with bureaucracy.

Or fat lazy southern cops who basically sit on their asses and do nothing to help people in real danger.