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Posted: 2003-02-17 03:23am
by Drewcifer
XaLEv wrote:
Drewcifer wrote:Cool. I was just suprised that it made snot shoot out your nose :)
Hahaha. OMG...that was funny. No offense, dude, but I think that went right over your head.
None taken, many things online sail right over me :)
XaLEv wrote:...Anatomy of the Lacrimal System...
[yoda]ah, understand now I do[/yoda] :lol:

Posted: 2003-02-17 03:30am
by neoolong
Zaia wrote:Someone somewhere once said that all relationships between the opposite sexes (or whoever it is that you're attracted to) are always affected by sexual tension. Even on a small level, even if it isn't from your side, there's always going to be a bit of it there. After all, for the most part, people are your friends because you like them. So, if you're friends with a chick, you already like her a bit and probably find her at least a little attractive just based on her personality. So, there's always that little bit of sexual attraction.

Of course, in some cases it's a lot more obvious than that. But the point is that with M/F friendships, they're never completely platonic, so there's always going to be that difference between how you act around the opposite sex and how you act around a group of people you will never be sexually attracted to.
So does that sexual tension ever go away? I remember that I had asked out a girl who turned me down and just wanted to be friends. Wasn't my first choice but we hung out. I didn't view her as a potential and didn't really act differently around her, well except talking about the attractiveness of other women that I do with guys. Yet still in about a week we end up sleeping together, uh I assumed that meant that she wanted to be more than friends. It was a bit more gradual than that, but that was the net effect. I was rather suprised at the turn of events. And then a week or so later she says she wants to just be friends and doesn't want to hurt me. Note, this of course, happened on Thursday, ironic to say the least.

So is sexual tension supposed to still exist? Sorry to put you on the spot, but I've been wondering about it for a while and wanted a female perspective. And it does kind of pertain to the topic. Thanks.

Posted: 2003-02-17 03:40am
by Drewcifer
neoolong wrote:So does that sexual tension ever go away?
A few unsolicted opinions from a male: No, not really. I'm 33, and there's still some tension around with almost all of my female friends, even the ones that are married now. It's not a big deal, it doesn't really get in the way of any friendships, and I would never damage any of my friendships just for a lay, but the tension is still there, and sometimes it's mutual.

As far as your friend, some people sleep with their friends, and that's all it is, sex between friends. I don't understand it, or suggest it, but it happens.

Posted: 2003-02-17 10:45am
by Kelly Antilles
Wow... this thread has gone on a lot longer than I expected.

Posted: 2003-02-17 11:54am
by Darth Wong
David wrote:I have access ...
Oh yeah, I forgot that making you an admin of the mirror-board would do that. But as long as you aren't snooping around, I guess that shouldn't matter.
Kelly Antilles wrote:Wow... this thread has gone on a lot longer than I expected.
I think Xalev is just demonstrating some of the differences between the theoretical and practical approach to women :)

PS. Your original avatar is back! Yay!!!!

Posted: 2003-02-17 12:01pm
by David
Well at least you didn't forget to delete the mod forum :lol:

Posted: 2003-02-17 12:33pm
by Kelly Antilles
Darth Wong wrote: I think Xalev is just demonstrating some of the differences between the theoretical and practical approach to women :)
Hm, yeah, probably. It's unfortunate that I can't work with such vague questions as he was proposing. Tell me exactly what you want to know and I'll explain it to you. Zaia did a good job of that, I think.

Besides, we don't talk about different things than a group of guys may. We just say it differently. ;)
PS. Your original avatar is back! Yay!!!!
:D Yeah. Thought I'd go back to her for a while. Maybe it'll bring me more respect.

Posted: 2003-02-17 03:37pm
by The Yosemite Bear
respect....

great now I've got that song stuck in my head, oh well, it's fitting considering what most males know of women's issues is either from music or TV, and most of them don't get the messages anyways...


of course growing up with split up parents, and then later with a smaller female sibling (she's like Zaia's age), I have an understandable overly protective fraturnal instinct going...

Posted: 2003-02-17 04:06pm
by Kelly Antilles
The Yosemite Bear wrote:respect....

great now I've got that song stuck in my head, oh well, it's fitting considering what most males know of women's issues is either from music or TV, and most of them don't get the messages anyways...


of course growing up with split up parents, and then later with a smaller female sibling (she's like Zaia's age), I have an understandable overly protective fraturnal instinct going...
*hugs YB* I'm a spoiled brat. I grew up with 3 mothers and 3 fathers (mom, dad, 2 sisters and 2 brothers that range from 18-10 years older than me). For some reason I have a hugely maternal instinct with my friends, but I can't begin to think of myself as a mother.

Posted: 2003-02-17 05:05pm
by The Yosemite Bear
I have two Stepbrother's, My Stepbrother's Half Brother, and a "Baby" Half sister.

Alex and I get along great
David & Alex get along fine, but David and Me usually try to ignore each other.

Andrew and I hate each other's guts.

Ambrosia keeps trying to get me to write to Andrew while he's in Levenworth.... (Mess folks, does Andrew still count as a Marine, in your opionion?)

Posted: 2003-02-17 05:38pm
by Zaia
Kelly Antilles wrote:Hm, yeah, probably. It's unfortunate that I can't work with such vague questions as he was proposing. Tell me exactly what you want to know and I'll explain it to you. Zaia did a good job of that, I think.
I think part of why this thread has lasted so long is that he doesn't really know what it is he wants to know.
Besides, we don't talk about different things than a group of guys may. We just say it differently. ;)
:D
:D Yeah. Thought I'd go back to her for a while. Maybe it'll bring me more respect.
:?:

Posted: 2003-02-17 08:19pm
by Kelly Antilles
Zaia wrote:
:D Yeah. Thought I'd go back to her for a while. Maybe it'll bring me more respect.
:?:
What?

Posted: 2003-02-17 08:21pm
by Zaia
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Zaia wrote:
:D Yeah. Thought I'd go back to her for a while. Maybe it'll bring me more respect.
:?:
What?
Maybe it'll bring you more respect? Who's been disrespecting you?

Posted: 2003-02-17 08:23pm
by Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi
Zaia wrote:
Kelly Antilles wrote:
Zaia wrote: :?:
What?
Maybe it'll bring you more respect? Who's been disrespecting you?
I'm sure at least one person was scared by her Valnentine's Day avatar and isn't going to forgive her.

Posted: 2003-02-17 08:28pm
by Kelly Antilles
Zaia wrote: Maybe it'll bring you more respect? Who's been disrespecting you?
It's more like when I was using Faye, people seemed to disregard anything I said. And well, it's not getting any better yet. Maybe it will.

Posted: 2003-02-18 12:19am
by Drewcifer
Kelly Antilles wrote:It's more like when I was using Faye, people seemed to disregard anything I said. And well, it's not getting any better yet. Maybe it will.
Well, for what it's worth, I had a big bad crush on your original av; it's nice to see her back **prrrr**

Posted: 2003-02-18 09:33am
by XaLEv
Zaia wrote:Thank you. I would have felt simply awful (read: like an ass) had you held that stupid mistake against me.
Of course not. I wouldn't do that.
Hmm, well, that changes my approach on how to explain things. That is, if you still want me to try.
Sure.
Someone somewhere once said that all relationships between the opposite sexes (or whoever it is that you're attracted to) are always affected by sexual tension. Even on a small level, even if it isn't from your side, there's always going to be a bit of it there. After all, for the most part, people are your friends because you like them. So, if you're friends with a chick, you already like her a bit and probably find her at least a little attractive just based on her personality.
Yes, I realize all of that.
So, there's always that little bit of sexual attraction.
I don't deny that there would be attraction. I'm just saying that unless that attraction is quite strong, I wouldn't really care about it.

Zaia wrote:I think part of why this thread has lasted so long is that he doesn't really know what it is he wants to know.
It's not just the reason for this thread's longevity, but it's whole existance. Of course I don't know what exactly it is I'm looking for. No one ever says what it is, always just vague references to "It". It's beginning to look like "it" - whatever "it" is - is really just something (or more likely large number of somethings) tame and trivial ( to me, at least), and all the "OMG THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!" shit I see about it is centered on a small core of queasy individuals who blow it all out of proportion, and that the rest of it is just a bunch of ignorant alarmists pointing into the darkness and screaming. I've suspected this for a while, but now it would seem that my suspicions are being confirmed.

Posted: 2003-02-18 10:10am
by Coyote
I have many good friends that are women; unfortuntely it tends to put girlfriends on the defensive. One girl I dated would not believe the ability of a guy and a girl to be "just friends". She felt like, either you've had sex before and are tempted to do it again, or you've not had sex and are looking to experiment.

Posted: 2003-02-18 01:36pm
by InnerBrat
I have many good friends who are men, and we've talked sex many times (I know nearly as much about their penises as I do about Sn0's, without seeing them).
But there's still a boundary, even with me, who talks about sex at all times of the day and night. I would never share tips and tricks with male friends the way I do with girl friends; I don't talk about hygiene; and I don't share intimate details about particular men. (OK, about Ro Jo-Mu)

Mainly because I've never talked to a man about the colour of his penile discharge, about his particular cunnilingus technique, or what his girlfriend (in my circle, usually also a friend of mine) does that he likes so much.

If males don't want to talk about these kind of things with us, why should we talk about them with them?

Also, it's difficult to have a discussion about underwear or vibrators with a hetero/bi man without getting the catalogue wet...

Posted: 2003-02-18 08:00pm
by LT.Hit-Man
*Reads the entire thread and laughs*

Oh the games men and woman play when the other is away :)