SiegeTank wrote:Man. Whenever Shady uses that picture of comrade Cherdenko I expect him to say something like "I shall go to the one place capitalism has not yet tainted... SPACE!"
And now all this talk of armed zeppelins has me thinking... Ryan, didn't you build some fancy helicopters? You don't happen to have a cryo-ray laying about do you?
Fingolfin, is that modular frigate deal an open tender? Because Blues Brothers builds the Dampier class flexible support ship which seem to be exactly what you're looking for (not surprisingly, since they're also based off the Absalon FFS.
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I think Ford Prefect's Country should arise from the ruins of Astarian Velaria - after a popular revolution led by the Ford Prefect, a man who's got *nothing* to do with the SD.net member and forumer Ford Prefect.
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I'm unsure how useful a space fighter armed with only a cannon is myself, though. Considering the limited delta-V of current-generation spacecraft I would think that missiles are a far better way to reach out and touch multiple targets.
So Fin, has the Caliph recinded the Fatwas against Zoria? We pretty much in agreement as far as i recall.
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I'm unsure how useful a space fighter armed with only a cannon is myself, though. Considering the limited delta-V of current-generation spacecraft I would think that missiles are a far better way to reach out and touch multiple targets.
The cannon is for blasting satellites. It will carry space-to-space missiles in its (much larger than standard - for more Delta-V) service module, too.
You see, you can load dozens of rounds into the cockpit. Which means a single spaceship that gets amongst, say, a GPS consteallation can cripple it.
And, well - it's a cheap fighter for permament stationing in space. We have the Mig-105/110 to carry a lot of missiles up there.
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Signature dedicated to the greatest achievement of mankind.
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Well, let's see-- Shroomania tests a space-based WMD; joins the CSR, and then two powerful CSR nations unite into one bloc....
...yeah, Nationalists and people prone to isolationism are going to be having whole litters of kittens and demanding "action".
Before too long, we'll hear from the ones who say "ditch the MESS and go with CATO"...
Either way, it'll all be the King's fault.
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Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
PeZook wrote:The cannon is for blasting satellites. It will carry space-to-space missiles in its (much larger than standard - for more Delta-V) service module, too.
You see, you can load dozens of rounds into the cockpit. Which means a single spaceship that gets amongst, say, a GPS consteallation can cripple it.
And, well - it's a cheap fighter for permament stationing in space. We have the Mig-105/110 to carry a lot of missiles up there.
Considering the kind of work arounds you would have to create in order to get a weapon with open breach to work in a vacuum without pumping out the entire capsule I'm willing to bet that strapping missiles to the hull probably nets you more ordnance in orbit.
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Zor wrote:So Fin, has the Caliph recinded the Fatwas against Zoria? We pretty much in agreement as far as i recall.
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I'm unsure how useful a space fighter armed with only a cannon is myself, though. Considering the limited delta-V of current-generation spacecraft I would think that missiles are a far better way to reach out and torch multiple targets.
It's the public perception. Canissians can be as prone to "sound-bite news" as anyone else, unfortunately!
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:It's the public perception. Canissians can be as prone to "sound-bite news" as anyone else, unfortunately!
Actually, I was talking about the mistake you made in your previous post. When you got our alliance name wrong(calling it the CSR, instead of SNC[s/] CATO.
Public perception is of course, understandable. But I assure you Comrade, you have nothing to fear from the UCSR.
Shroom Man 777 wrote:I think Ford Prefect's Country should arise from the ruins of Astarian Velaria - after a popular revolution led by the Ford Prefect, a man who's got *nothing* to do with the SD.net member and forumer Ford Prefect.
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It works best as an island nation off the southeastern coast of Veleria. That gives you plenty of opportunity to mix it up with the wacky Thuggees and Vikings.
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If anyone should react violently, it should be Japanistan. As it was they were unnerved by the prospect of an SNC/MESS alliance should they wind up at war with Byzantium over Egyptian influences, now Shroomania, formerly out of those blocs, has joined the SNC and retooled it to a massive Continental alliance.
And what about that one country, Khitan? Nations don't stay isolationist forever, especially in the face of a sudden shift in continental power balances.
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Coyote wrote:It's the public perception. Canissians can be as prone to "sound-bite news" as anyone else, unfortunately!
Actually, I was talking about the mistake you made in your previous post. When you got our alliance name wrong(calling it the CSR, instead of SNC[s/] CATO.
Public perception is of course, understandable. But I assure you Comrade, you have nothing to fear from the UCSR.
Oh, I know. I'm role-playing politics. My Nationalists and Libertarians are up in arms about national pride and business protectionism, so of course they're lashing out at two forign countries that just happen to be most visible-- PeZook's fighter deal and Shroom's stratellites (part of leftover dismay at the KKV test) even though those two countries have been very inoffensive (in fact, poor PeZookia has been uninvolved in all this but they're getting some of the brunt of the resentment).
I just don't like everything to go easy and smooth all the time. Some petty politics and protectionism add a dash of realism.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Steve wrote:If anyone should react violently, it should be Japanistan. As it was they were unnerved by the prospect of an SNC/MESS alliance should they wind up at war with Byzantium over Egyptian influences, now Shroomania, formerly out of those blocs, has joined the SNC and retooled it to a massive Continental alliance.
And what about that one country, Khitan? Nations don't stay isolationist forever, especially in the face of a sudden shift in continental power balances.
We should have a Game Master step in and determine their actions (if the actual players themselves don't want to). In fact, watching Japanistan go apeshit over the CATO happenings might gave the Canissian Nationalists a hearty laugh, and they'd realize that a CATO deal isn't so bad after all --if it gives Japanistan a case of intestinal worms.
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
Coyote wrote:
I just don't like everything to go easy and smooth all the time. Some petty politics and protectionism add a dash of realism.
And realism adds to the game. I know I enjoy reading about your parliaments reactions.
We should have a Game Master step in and determine their actions (if the actual players themselves don't want to). In fact, watching Japanistan go apeshit over the CATO happenings might gave the Canissian Nationalists a hearty laugh, and they'd realize that a CATO deal isn't so bad after all --if it gives Japanistan a case of intestinal worms.
As much as I would like to see Japanistans reaction(and even the reaction of Khitan) nobody controls them because the players quit the game. I like your idea of appointing a game master(or moderator) but we already tried that, and it didn't work.
Still, I would support PeZook and Steve for that position. IIRC they were the main candidates when we discussed this before.
Steve wrote:If anyone should react violently, it should be Japanistan. As it was they were unnerved by the prospect of an SNC/MESS alliance should they wind up at war with Byzantium over Egyptian influences, now Shroomania, formerly out of those blocs, has joined the SNC and retooled it to a massive Continental alliance.
And what about that one country, Khitan? Nations don't stay isolationist forever, especially in the face of a sudden shift in continental power balances.
So who's going to role play Khitan? Even if they suddenly declare war, what next? Bombed to ash next? Granted, staying isolationist is likely going to result in just some bloated military but low in tech.
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Well... in the Star Wars story I do over at SB.com I have a primary player-character nation, the Sovereign Alliance of Systems... but when plots and plans are needed, and a good, devious enemy has to be added to spice it up, I also run a midsized Imperial faction, the Senex Imperium, complete with Sith.
So... I might be willing to take the reigns of Japanistan and begin running the Chyrsanthimum Throne in all it's scheming, power-plotting glory.
I briefly ran a very well-recived Japanese Star Empire for a Star Trek game, too....
Something about Libertarianism always bothered me. Then one day, I realized what it was:
Libertarian philosophy can be boiled down to the phrase, "Work Will Make You Free."
In Libertarianism, there is no Government, so the Bosses are free to exploit the Workers.
In Communism, there is no Government, so the Workers are free to exploit the Bosses.
So in Libertarianism, man exploits man, but in Communism, its the other way around! If all you want to do is have some harmless, mindless fun, go H3RE INST3ADZ0RZ!! Grrr! Fight my Brute, you pansy!
SiegeTank wrote:Fingolfin, is that modular frigate deal an open tender? Because Blues Brothers builds the Dampier class flexible support ship which seem to be exactly what you're looking for (not surprisingly, since they're also based off the Absalon FFS.
Theoretically. Since it is not classified as a strategic vessel. However, the ship is only loosely based on the Absalon. For one thing I want to fit a sizable radar suite on the ship compared to the original (of which is produced within CATO), and I want to fit a combined gas turbines and diesel system. If you and Constantinople Shipyards can put together a package, with licensing fees to throw in, I might consider.
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Coyote wrote:Well... in the Star Wars story I do over at SB.com I have a primary player-character nation, the Sovereign Alliance of Systems... but when plots and plans are needed, and a good, devious enemy has to be added to spice it up, I also run a midsized Imperial faction, the Senex Imperium, complete with Sith.
So... I might be willing to take the reigns of Japanistan and begin running the Chyrsanthimum Throne in all it's scheming, power-plotting glory.
I briefly ran a very well-recived Japanese Star Empire for a Star Trek game, too....
Welll... If you can trust yourself to be impartial...
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