The Doctor's New Clothes

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Re: The Doctor's New Clothes

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Is this the argument that "Good ratings=quality"?

Well I guess both the Spice Girls and Big Brother must have been marks of quality, god help us all.
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Re: The Doctor's New Clothes

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Yeah, that is BO's argument in a nutshell. Hooray to appeal to popularity.
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Technically speaking from the studio's POV , it does. They don't want critical acclaim, they want RATINGS. And they got them.
And while I WOULD have preferred Eccleston to remain the Doctor (if nothing else, I just liked his looks better) I had no quarrel with Tennant.
And I happen to LIKE the Spice Girls.
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Re: The Doctor's New Clothes

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Batman wrote:Technically speaking from the studio's POV , it does. They don't want critical acclaim, they want RATINGS. And they got them.
This would be a great argument if BO would be arguing things from a business perspective. As he does not, it utterly fails in supporting his point.
And while I WOULD have preferred Eccleston to remain the Doctor (if nothing else, I just liked his looks better) I had no quarrel with Tennant.
I don't have any quarrel with him, I even in fact like him very much in S2. However, I prefer his predecessor as he had a superior take on the doctor IMO.
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Re: The Doctor's New Clothes

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Thanas wrote:
Batman wrote:Technically speaking from the studio's POV , it does. They don't want critical acclaim, they want RATINGS. And they got them.
This would be a great argument if BO would be arguing things from a business perspective. As he does not, it utterly fails in supporting his point.
I wasn't trying to. Nevertheless however much he failed to do so IN ANOTHER THREAD, in THIS one he did NOT. If anything his claims indicate he did the OPPOSITE this time around.
And while I WOULD have preferred Eccleston to remain the Doctor (if nothing else, I just liked his looks better) I had no quarrel with Tennant.
I don't have any quarrel with him, I even in fact like him very much in S2. However, I prefer his predecessor as he had a superior take on the doctor IMO.
I don't know Dr Who prior to Eccleston (which might be the reason for the following) but I don't see much difference in the core approach to the character for both of them. Arrogant as hell, stupid beyond belief on occasion, makes ME look like a habitual mass murderer on the 'refuses to kill' issue, hopelessly devoted to his Companion, oh, and Tennant's Doctor had no fashion taste.
'Next time I let Superman take charge, just hit me. Real hard.'
'You're a princess from a society of immortal warriors. I'm a rich kid with issues. Lots of issues.'
'No. No dating for the Batman. It might cut into your brooding time.'
'Tactically we have multiple objectives. So we need to split into teams.'-'Dibs on the Amazon!'
'Hey, we both have a Martian's phone number on our speed dial. I think I deserve the benefit of the doubt.'
'You know, for a guy with like 50 different kinds of vision, you sure are blind.'
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