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Separation of particle ray shield extends only as far as they're two different shield emitters, both shield systems dump energy to the same matrix, so the only thing that counts is the dissipation ratio that device.

vakundok wrote: Nothing, it is just a question, because it seems to be illogical.

Maybe they didn't want to be dragging unconcious bodies around in a fire zone or something *shrug*

Yes I know. i asked the side effects of the blast that burned Greedo.

Unknown. All that is known is that Greedo died extremely messily. There's also the infamous burning chest shot of the Imperial guard in the prison cell block, caused by an E-11.

Those 4x4 smaller missiles that were extended farther from the hull.

ICS says they're air-to-air. Which of course begs the question why they didn't use them, since we see them on the wings during the chase.

Walls? In a city scenario the clontroopers would loose their range advantage. For city scenarios the designers sacrificed range for the rate of fire at the end of the WW1. That was the reason for creating the submachine guns and assault rifles.

Actually, submachine guns were created for trench clearing in WW1. Assault rifles were created because the long range wasn't needed in most WW2 battles, and rate of fire was better. Regardless, in such a scenario the Clonetroopers wouldn't be using the heavy rifles- the DC-15 is actually modular- tjere is a carbine version that looks remarkably like the E-11- known as the DC-15 blaster. We know that the E-11 carbine is also capable of automatic fire- stormtroopers also have a variety of rapid fire weaponry (the T-21, for example).

He wanted only Skywalker alive. He was completely careless about the others. (He gave Solo to Boba and allowed the others to stay on Bespin. Needless to say he risked Solo.)

Simply not true. He ordered Calrissian to take the Princess and the Wookie to his ship. He didn't honor the deal with Calrissian, remember?

So? In your opinion an AP bullet would cause less or more damage to the armored clonetrooper than the raw kinetic energy?

AP would undoubtedly be more effective, naturally. I was just pointing out what the movie had.

Yes it is the capability of the ray shield. But if you say (without resources) that all of these energy can be directed to the particle shield and it has the same effectivity it will become a fan-fiction.
Side note: If you mix the visual with something it will be no longer esteblished by the film. So the capabilities of the shield against laser fire were established in the ICS, which is also a high level material.

If the particle shields couldn't withstand shrapnel that shreds modern aircraft (which aren't armored in any sense of the word- with the exception of the A-10), shrapnel would have been used. Fact is, there are no kinetic energy weapons in Star Wars at all. The only time we've ever seen KE damage is when shields were down in ESB (bridge tower) and ROTJ (bridge windows). At other points we saw ISDs taking asteroid impacts on their shields with no noticeable effect. I would also think it rather odd that clonetrooper/ stormtrooper armor could withstand the KE of a spear being thrown at them and lifting up the man inside/ sending them across the room, but an armored LAAT couldn't.

His Divine Shadow wrote:Separation of particle ray shield extends only as far as they're two different shield emitters, both shield systems dump energy to the same matrix, so the only thing that counts is the dissipation ratio that device.

Thanks! So, if we know the relative efficiency of generating ray and particle shields we will know the capabilities of the gunship shield against missiles. Is it stated somewhere?

Vympel: You are right I forgot about Vader's command. Sadly, it leads to the question: Why did the stormtroopers use low power blasts (which could be still lethal) instead of stunning?

I have to rethink my point of view regarding to the clonetrropers' fire rate. It was high enough.

Side question:
Interesting. Were the ray shields of the gunships lowered during the jedis' boarding? Since we saw two hull scoring shots on Kenobi's gunship and an other on Windu's gunship. (And some occassions when jedis reflected blasts from the door.)
Another side question:
Can the blast of a blaster rifle be accelerated (like the blasts of the main cannons of the AT-AT)?

vakundok wrote:Why did the stormtroopers use low power blasts (which could be still lethal) instead of stunning?

Perhaps their use is restricted to extreme short range.

Side question:
Interesting. Were the ray shields of the gunships lowered during the jedis' boarding? Since we saw two hull scoring shots on Kenobi's gunship and an other on Windu's gunship. (And some occassions when jedis reflected blasts from the door.)

Hmm, don't know. I'd be inclined to say that either they were down, or were reconfigured to hug the hull.

Can the blast of a blaster rifle be accelerated (like the blasts of the main cannons of the AT-AT)?

Variable power, you mean?

Vympel wrote:

vakundok wrote:Why did the stormtroopers use low power blasts (which could be still lethal) instead of stunning?

Perhaps their use is restricted to extreme short range.

Possible, I will check the ranges soon.

Side question:
Interesting. Were the ray shields of the gunships lowered during the jedis' boarding? Since we saw two hull scoring shots on Kenobi's gunship and an other on Windu's gunship. (And some occassions when jedis reflected blasts from the door.)

Hmm, don't know. I'd be inclined to say that either they were down, or were reconfigured to hug the hull.

Sorry, now I think it was a stupid question. The ray shields had to be lowered (or a hole to be created in the shield) otherwise they would cause some problems to the jedis with activated lightsabers.

Can the blast of a blaster rifle be accelerated (like the blasts of the main cannons of the AT-AT)?

Variable power, you mean?

No. I mean variable speed of the blast. When the AT-AT fired at long range its blast moved far faster than usually. I am interested in the time needed for the blast from a clonetrooper heavy rifle to reach a target kilometres away.

All SW energy weapons have variable speeds in relation to range, the delay from barrel to target is always around 2-4 frames, once or twice it has been 6 frames.

I have measured some bolt speeds from small arms in relation to ranges and at ~90 meters the bolt speed is around 400 meters per second, at 45meters it's around 225m/s.

Extrapolating from these speeds, at a range of 300meters the speed ought be in around 950-1325m/s

Hmm given the opower of Star Wars wepons couldnt they shoot through walls at colonial Marines in an urban environment?

Typhonis 1 wrote:Hmm given the opower of Star Wars wepons couldnt they shoot through walls at colonial Marines in an urban environment?

I don't think it'd be too successfull a tactic, maybe if they where hiding against a wall one could take them out by causing the wall to suddenly explode, assuming we're not talking armored walls here.

His Divine Shadow wrote:

white_rabbit wrote:He did kinda say something along the lines of "an entire legion of my best troops"

He was wrong or was just boasting, any observer can see that there are far better situations for stormie performance, so clearly these where not the best of the Empire.

such as ?

His Divine Shadow wrote:

white_rabbit wrote:He did kinda say something along the lines of "an entire legion of my best troops"

He was wrong or was just boasting, any observer can see that there are far better situations for stormie performance, so clearly these where not the best of the Empire.

such as ?

Such as not double posting?

Maybe you did not see AOTC, or the other triologies, performance was clearly better there, even in the situations where they've been told to let them go, which says alot.

Such as not double posting?

God, I cant wait until I get broadband...

Maybe you did not see AOTC, or the other triologies, performance was clearly better there, even in the situations where they've been told to let them go, which says alot

AOTC ? where the Clonies demonstrated how not to fight properly ?

Other trilogys what other trilogies!?

white_rabbit wrote:AOTC ? where the Clonies demonstrated how not to fight properly ?

How exactly did they do that?

Other trilogys what other trilogies!?

I meant other movies