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Posted: 2003-03-28 10:51pm
by weemadando
RogueIce wrote:
Yellowtext: The title is, essentially, flamebait. It's an easy knee jerk reaction causer, and you have to know it. Specifically because it is so broad as to include ALL Americans, not to mention the use of two insulting adjectives in it.
Indeed. No arguement there.
Greentext: I've seen 'em suffer here in the good ol' US of A. Maybe you're just lucky (or unlucky, whatever). But there are stupid tourists from EVERYWHERE, not just America, and your post most certainly implies that you think ALL American tourists are dumbasses.
Not all, but the they stupid are currently beating the educated about 4:1.
(EDIT: that and your post history concerning America in general greatly lends credence to an anti-American bias, whether true or not. Face it: this thread could EASILY be considered flamebait, especially if certain posters on this board had responded to it.)
Anti-American bias? How about a pro-education bias?

Do you know what its like when you are treated like some ignorant savage who doesn't know how to speak english? How about when someone tries to proclaim superiority to you based solely on the fact they are American and you aren't?

And like I've said, I haven't encountered this level of ignorance, stupidity and arrogance from any other nationality. So either they know better or they keep their mouths shut.

Call it anti-Americanism if you want. I'm calling it the basic damn facts.

Posted: 2003-03-28 10:51pm
by Cal Wright
Me and Ando seem to have a sort of non agression pact going. I've noticed his silence in certain threads of mine, so I'm going to lay the arms down in his. While he does have that anti american theme going, as long as he doesn't let it blow out of proportion, the warhammer will not be dropped, for now. :twisted:


Col. Crackpot though, will now be the target of any and ALL jabs I can possibly manage. Nobody insults the Heart of Dixie!!!

Posted: 2003-03-28 10:53pm
by weemadando
DG_Cal_Wright wrote:Me and Ando seem to have a sort of non agression pact going. I've noticed his silence in certain threads of mine, so I'm going to lay the arms down in his. While he does have that anti american theme going, as long as he doesn't let it blow out of proportion, the warhammer will not be dropped, for now. :twisted:
Mutual non-aggression pact?

I thought that it was just the fact that we never accomplish anything when we argue and it turns into one big redneck hoe-down with far too much booze, dope and hookers?

Posted: 2003-03-28 10:56pm
by RogueIce
weemadando wrote:
Greentext: I've seen 'em suffer here in the good ol' US of A. Maybe you're just lucky (or unlucky, whatever). But there are stupid tourists from EVERYWHERE, not just America, and your post most certainly implies that you think ALL American tourists are dumbasses.
Not all, but the they stupid are currently beating the educated about 4:1.
(EDIT: that and your post history concerning America in general greatly lends credence to an anti-American bias, whether true or not. Face it: this thread could EASILY be considered flamebait, especially if certain posters on this board had responded to it.)
Anti-American bias? How about a pro-education bias?

Do you know what its like when you are treated like some ignorant savage who doesn't know how to speak english? How about when someone tries to proclaim superiority to you based solely on the fact they are American and you aren't?

And like I've said, I haven't encountered this level of ignorance, stupidity and arrogance from any other nationality. So either they know better or they keep their mouths shut.

Call it anti-Americanism if you want. I'm calling it the basic damn facts.
I said it lends credence to that belief, particulary the way you choose to word it (Stupid fucking Americans, for example; yeah, I know I've said it a lot, but it REALLY bugs me). Anyway, what I meant was, the notion is certainly there. Maybe I worded it wrong and gave you the impression I thought you had an anti-American bias; if so, then my apologies, was not my intent.

Bluetext: I've had some Europeans (Britons in particular) do that to me. So, yeah, I do. Just replace "American" with "British" or "French" or whatever.

Posted: 2003-03-28 11:12pm
by weemadando
RogueIce wrote:
I said it lends credence to that belief, particulary the way you choose to word it (Stupid fucking Americans, for example; yeah, I know I've said it a lot, but it REALLY bugs me). Anyway, what I meant was, the notion is certainly there. Maybe I worded it wrong and gave you the impression I thought you had an anti-American bias; if so, then my apologies, was not my intent.
A lot of people will say I have an Anti-American bias. And to be quite honest, I probably do.

Anyhow, apology not required. Lets shake and let it go.

Posted: 2003-03-28 11:22pm
by RogueIce
weemadando wrote:
RogueIce wrote:
I said it lends credence to that belief, particulary the way you choose to word it (Stupid fucking Americans, for example; yeah, I know I've said it a lot, but it REALLY bugs me). Anyway, what I meant was, the notion is certainly there. Maybe I worded it wrong and gave you the impression I thought you had an anti-American bias; if so, then my apologies, was not my intent.
A lot of people will say I have an Anti-American bias. And to be quite honest, I probably do.

Anyhow, apology not required. Lets shake and let it go.
Works for me. :)

Posted: 2003-03-28 11:38pm
by ArmorPierce
I'm suprised that this thread isn't all flames.

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-28 11:39pm
by Wicked Pilot
weemadando wrote:This is by no means an isolated incident, I get this, or a variant thereof several times a week. And guess what? Its uniformly Americans that do it.
They're tourist, what do you expect? Why don't you come visit New Orleans. I'd be interested to see how many seconds you last before making a similiar fool out of youself.

Posted: 2003-03-28 11:42pm
by Cal Wright
weemadando wrote: I thought that it was just the fact that we never accomplish anything when we argue and it turns into one big redneck hoe-down with far too much booze, dope and hookers?
That too.

Posted: 2003-03-29 12:06am
by Lord Poe
Darth Wong wrote:You work pretty hard to pretend that you're just "taking the piss" (to use Edam's terminology) and not taking any of this seriously.
Work pretty hard? Nah, that drawing took 10 minutes. I've got another "political toon" I did about the same time, but that one would
really be OT in this thread (unlike the earlier one)

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 12:07am
by weemadando
Wicked Pilot wrote:
weemadando wrote:This is by no means an isolated incident, I get this, or a variant thereof several times a week. And guess what? Its uniformly Americans that do it.
They're tourist, what do you expect? Why don't you come visit New Orleans. I'd be interested to see how many seconds you last before making a similiar fool out of youself.
Well, I've managed to tour Japan without making a fool of myself (actually speaking Japanese and being aware of cultural differences and etiquette makes one hell of a difference).

I speak pretty good french (not that it would help in Nawlins i'm guessing), but I am without a doubt well aware of the culture etc that is entailed in New Orleans, rather unlike many of those who would tour other places. In fact I rather pride myself on my knowledge of other nations and cultures.

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 12:15am
by Lord Poe
weemadando wrote:I speak pretty good french (not that it would help in Nawlins i'm guessing), but I am without a doubt well aware of the culture etc that is entailed in New Orleans, rather unlike many of those who would tour other places. In fact I rather pride myself on my knowledge of other nations and cultures.
So how many vampires live in Tasmania?

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 12:21am
by weemadando
Lord Poe wrote:
weemadando wrote:I speak pretty good french (not that it would help in Nawlins i'm guessing), but I am without a doubt well aware of the culture etc that is entailed in New Orleans, rather unlike many of those who would tour other places. In fact I rather pride myself on my knowledge of other nations and cultures.
So how many vampires live in Tasmania?
Well some friends have been working on the "Hobart by night" book for WoD for a year and a bit now with me helping every now and then.

Mainly a Nosferatu and Gangrel population with a heavy worm infestation.

Thats without taking into account the many aboriginal spirits and creatures of myth.

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:02am
by Slartibartfast
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Why do Americans need to learn anything about the internal features of foreign countries, except by choice, considering their own nation is the third largest on Earth and has more internal diversity than the two largest?
Sorry, I feel the sudden need to LMAO.
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!
Hilarious! You little devil ;)
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:There's no necessity for Americans to travel; every experience and pleasure is contained within our own nation
Please! Can't breathe! Stop it, you're cracking me up :lol:

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:05am
by Slartibartfast
jegs2 wrote:She sounds very uninformed, and a bit full of herself -- not necessarily stupid. If I tried to count uninformed people who think they know something about the Army and try to tell me what they think they know, I'd get no work done. They're grossly uninformed, though not necessarily stupid.
You see, the problem that even if you thought that Rio de Janeiro is a jungle with people living in trees, actually travelling there and yelling "OMG I THOUGHT YOU ALL LIVED IN BANANA TREES!!!" is pretty fucking stupid.

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:08am
by ArmorPierce
and people are trying to support the idea that Americans are stupid?

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:24am
by Cal Wright
Lord Poe wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:You work pretty hard to pretend that you're just "taking the piss" (to use Edam's terminology) and not taking any of this seriously.
Work pretty hard? Nah, that drawing took 10 minutes. I've got another "political toon" I did about the same time, but that one would
really be OT in this thread (unlike the earlier one)
Oh get over it. When has anyone ever gave a flying fuck about being on topic. Just post the damn thing. Heh.

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:33am
by Lord Poe
DG_Cal_Wright wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:You work pretty hard to pretend that you're just "taking the piss" (to use Edam's terminology) and not taking any of this seriously.
Work pretty hard? Nah, that drawing took 10 minutes. I've got another "political toon" I did about the same time, but that one would
really be OT in this thread (unlike the earlier one)
Oh get over it. When has anyone ever gave a flying fuck about being on topic. Just post the damn thing. Heh.
What the hell!

http://h4h.com/louis/war2.gif

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:39am
by Cal Wright
Make it stop!

We can't stop! We have to slow down first!

What have I done!!!!!!!

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:40am
by weemadando
Lord Poe wrote:
What the hell!

http://h4h.com/louis/war2.gif

Bollocks, not bullocks.

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:41am
by Lord Poe
weemadando wrote:
Lord Poe wrote:
What the hell!

http://h4h.com/louis/war2.gif

Bollocks, not bullocks.
Crikey!

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:44am
by Joe
Ehehe...funny stuff.

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:44am
by Darth Wong
Slartibartfast wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:There's no necessity for Americans to travel; every experience and pleasure is contained within our own nation
Please! Can't breathe! Stop it, you're cracking me up :lol:
It's funny but it's also really fucking disturbing, isn't it?

Re: Stupid fucking Americans...

Posted: 2003-03-29 01:47am
by Lord Poe
Darth Wong wrote:
Slartibartfast wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:There's no necessity for Americans to travel; every experience and pleasure is contained within our own nation
Please! Can't breathe! Stop it, you're cracking me up :lol:
It's funny but it's also really fucking disturbing, isn't it?
The art isn't THAT bad is it? :wink:

You should see the "political" toons I do at work. I'd probably get fired of those I lampoon in them actually see it.

Posted: 2003-03-29 02:24am
by Illuminatus Primus
RogueIce wrote:
fgalkin wrote:Good thing that most tourists in St. Petersburg were so dumbofunded by the difference between what they expected to see (wooden izbas and bears parading on the streets) and what they saw in reality, that they were incapable of speaking. :D

My condolences to you, Ando. Working for the tourism industry is hell.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Wait a minute, St Petersburg is right across the Bay from me, and I've never seen any of that!! :shock:

:D (j/k - I think phogn (sp? - dammit all) is from around Tampa Bay, so he'd probably get it. And anyone else who's been to/knows about the Tampa Bay area in Florida, USA)
:D I live in Tampa Bay.

I was up shopping with a girl friend today up in Tampa. Got to love Tampa Bay.