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I quite like it - shows that they're actually paying attention to little details of continuity like that. My god...I'm actually...hopeful for this film.Havok wrote:And as I watched clips it occurred to me... "DUH! The Falcon lost it's round disc in the Death Star. New square one." Which makes perfect sense as the Falcon is always put back together with what ever Han can find.
Presumably he's blown out the engines at some point as well, then.Havok wrote:And as I watched clips it occurred to me... "DUH! The Falcon lost it's round disc in the Death Star. New square one." Which makes perfect sense as the Falcon is always put back together with what ever Han can find.
Called itAdamskywalker007 wrote:The voice is definitely Andy Serkis, not Cumberbatch.
It's easy to underestimate the Falcon's size; think of all the scenes set on the boarding ramp, or the fact that the little stalk sticking out with the cockpit at the end is big enough to stand up in (as long as you're careful not to bang your head on the door frame...).Crazedwraith wrote:Not sure about the design the new thin engines made me think the falcon was ridiculously thin, like not big enough for people thin. But it has got more stuff under the engines before, still looks off to me.
By that logic, this teaser trailer for The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo means the movie was quickly cut. It's a trailer, and a teaser one at that. They aren't going to show a lot.ray245 wrote:It looks like a fan film shot on a small budget rather than feeling like a 150 million dollar Sci Fi blockbuster. The cinematography feels extremely out of place for a Star Wars film. Too much shakey cam, weird camera moment and too much quick edit
In reply to your comments.Borgholio wrote:Never been blown away by a trailer like this before. My thoughts:
1. Unmasked stormtrooper - Either it's a good guy who pulled a Han and Luke, or a bad guy who lost his helmet. Hoping it's the latter...because that will add a human aspect to stormtroopers that we haven't really seen since the Clone Wars.
2. Stormtroopers preparing for a combat insertion - That gave me shivers. I never liked the idea that Stormtroopers were idiotic mooks who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn door, but alas there was very little in the OT that made them seem dangerous. This one scene in the drop ship however, adds a whole level of badassery and implies you don't want to fuck with them. I can't wait to see more about that.
3. Scene with the Sith in the forest - Don't care either way for the lightsaber...we've seen wackier designs over the years, so this one isn't bad. It does imply home-built rather than a professional, polished design. But the whole environment seems downright spooky and I like it. Reminds me of Dagobah to an extent...without the snow, of course.
4. Flight scenes in the atmosphere - Jaw dropping. The X-wings flying over the lake was very well done and realistic. The Millennium Falcon was always stated to be the fastest ship in the galaxy but only a few times have we actually seen that. In the Hoth asteroid belt we see the Falcon maneuvering like a bat out of hell but that's about it. In this trailer, we see that the Falcon practically turning on a dime and surprising the hell out of the TIE pilots. I almost heard Han muttering under his breath in the cockpit at that point.
Plus, I agree fully with the decisions to use CGI to augment the physical ship models instead of going 100% CGI. The X-wings, TIES and Falcon have never looked so good.
Overall...god damn it, I have to wait an entire year?
That's how it was in the EU. While many factions tried to fight over the throne on Coruscant, some just kept to themselves and had their own little empires. They even allied with the New Republic out of self-interest in some cases. But some still thought as the Rebel Alliance / New Republic were the enemy and kept fighting.1. Woul;d the splinters of the Empire necessarily be the bad guys? I would expect, post-ROTJ, that some of the high ranking Imperials would at least want peaceful relations with the reconstituted Galactic Senate, even if they were ruling their own fiefdoms.
Yeah they won at Hoth and in the boarding action of Tantive IV. They also supposedly are crack shots, as per Obi Wan's comment on the Jawa sancrawler. However, the huge number of character shields meant that out of the entire freaking OT, the only time a main character was in danger was when Leia suffered a grazing wound to her arm (C-3PO in Cloud City and R2 in ROTJ not withstanding). So unless one is subscribing to the theory that they were always shooting to miss, it seems that the quality of the Stormtroopers is...variable.2. The stormtroopers won in Hoth. It would seem in the OT, they were very effective in huge numbers if they could all work together as a large group, with them being able to cover each opther and stuff, with big guns to back them up, but they are not so good as small squads against other small squads or individuals. (Death Star I, against Luke and co., and Endor, where the thick forest divided up the stormtroopers into small squads and diminished their capacity to cover each other.) then again, post-ROTJ, the successors of the Imperial stormtrooper leadership may very well have changed battle tactics.
This is a society that has achieved technological stasis. If the modification would have been beneficial, and the will to provide it existed, the means to develop it would have been provided. I think it unlikely that a thousand years of lightsabre could go by with suboptimal tools but thirty years would be enough to produce a new, beneficial enhancement.Grumman wrote:It could be that the technology wasn't up to it - the standard lightsaber is a stick maybe eight inches long with a blade parallel to the stick. This one either needs miniaturisation for the crossguards or blades projected perpendicular to the emitter instead of parallel.SCRawl wrote:With respect to the lightsabre crossguards, I question its inclusion. In principle it makes sense, since even a glancing blow from one's opponent there would mean the end of either the sword or the sword-wielder's hands. On the other hand, the weapons have been in use for centuries; if it made sense to have crossguards on lightsabres, someone would have figured it out long before we ever met the Jedi.
The Hoth base was being evacuated anyway, so I'm not sure if that should count. And I've always considered that Jawa sandcrawlers are plated with a material that attracts blaster fire...Borgholio wrote:Yeah they won at Hoth and in the boarding action of Tantive IV. They also supposedly are crack shots, as per Obi Wan's comment on the Jawa sancrawler.
I swear I read in something a long, long time ago probably pre-prequels a bit about the Empire not falling but it being reformed into a new Empire ruled by the Senate led by Leia as Queen. For the life of me I can't remember were I read it but I'm relatively positive it was in something official, maybe a novel or possibly one of the rough drafts.Borgholio wrote:That's how it was in the EU. While many factions tried to fight over the throne on Coruscant, some just kept to themselves and had their own little empires. They even allied with the New Republic out of self-interest in some cases. But some still thought as the Rebel Alliance / New Republic were the enemy and kept fighting.1. Woul;d the splinters of the Empire necessarily be the bad guys? I would expect, post-ROTJ, that some of the high ranking Imperials would at least want peaceful relations with the reconstituted Galactic Senate, even if they were ruling their own fiefdoms.
That's more or less what happened, isn't it? The Emperor and his Moffs were removed, and control of the galaxy as a whole went back to a senate made up of representatives of each sector.Joun_Lord wrote:I swear I read in something a long, long time ago probably pre-prequels a bit about the Empire not falling but it being reformed into a new Empire ruled by the Senate led by Leia as Queen. For the life of me I can't remember were I read it but I'm relatively positive it was in something official, maybe a novel or possibly one of the rough drafts.
I think it would be interesting if the Empire never did fall but just taken over by the Rebellion.
That would be pretty awful, in my opinion. A good Force user takes out the two bad Force users who ruled the galaxy with an iron fist, and now they decide Force users are bad? I see enough of that nonsense in superhero comics, thank you very much.Could be a galactic schism of normal people against force users, the New Republic/New Empire is hunting Han and Co to find and kill Luke.
I doubt thats the case, the Empire is probably the bad guys. Though I do wonder about the anti-force user sentiment, what with the movie's title and Luke supposed to be a hermit like Yoda was when he was being hunted.
But when the Emperor ruled the galaxy at least it was peaceful. It was only when the Jedi returned that it became violent again. And without Force users, he would have never came to power in the first place. There can't be Sith out for revenge if there aren't any Jedi either. Though that new lightsaber design does seem to suggest that the new Sith are rather crude and thus free from the orthodoxy of Bane's order.Grumman wrote:That would be pretty awful, in my opinion. A good Force user takes out the two bad Force users who ruled the galaxy with an iron fist, and now they decide Force users are bad? I see enough of that nonsense in superhero comics, thank you very much.
Going less than twenty years without a galaxy-spanning civil war is not "peaceful".Adamskywalker007 wrote:But when the Emperor ruled the galaxy at least it was peaceful.
But it was only after Luke appeared that the rebellion really got going again. While obviously there was still resistance with or without Jedi, the main effective branch of the Rebel Alliance went from a single minor victory to a major one only with the help of a neophyte Jedi. And it only became a galaxy-spanning war after Yavin and arguably Endor. Neither of which would have truly been Rebel victories without Luke. I suppose one could say that neither battle would have happened without him but regardless the Death Star and Emperor only were destroyed and died respectively thanks to the direct actions of Luke.Grumman wrote:Going less than twenty years without a galaxy-spanning civil war is not "peaceful".
And what was that victory? Oh yes, destroying a weapon that had already been used to murder two billion innocent Imperial citizens.Adamskywalker007 wrote:But it was only after Luke appeared that the rebellion really got going again. While obviously there was still resistance with or without Jedi, the main effective branch of the Rebel Alliance went from a single minor victory to a major one only with the help of a neophyte Jedi.Grumman wrote:Going less than twenty years without a galaxy-spanning civil war is not "peaceful".
I can kinda see where you're going with this, actually. In the old EU, it always seemed like galactic society was fairly stable, until some asshole with a lightsaber would step in and throw everything into chaos again.Joun_Lord wrote:Could be a galactic schism of normal people against force users, the New Republic/New Empire is hunting Han and Co to find and kill Luke.
I doubt thats the case, the Empire is probably the bad guys. Though I do wonder about the anti-force user sentiment, what with the movie's title and Luke supposed to be a hermit like Yoda was when he was being hunted.
Bearing this in mind, does anybody have a damn clue how much of that rebel squad on the moon of Endor actually survived? Because...character shields being character shields. It really was kind of a last ditch con that got them into that base, and there wasn't anybody but the main characters and ewoks walking around, that I could see anyway.Borgholio wrote: Yeah they won at Hoth and in the boarding action of Tantive IV. They also supposedly are crack shots, as per Obi Wan's comment on the Jawa sancrawler. However, the huge number of character shields meant that out of the entire freaking OT, the only time a main character was in danger was when Leia suffered a grazing wound to her arm (C-3PO in Cloud City and R2 in ROTJ not withstanding). So unless one is subscribing to the theory that they were always shooting to miss, it seems that the quality of the Stormtroopers is...variable.
At least a couple were visible during the celebration scene at the end of RotJ, and I'm pretty sure they are visible when Han is planting the explosive charges, and later running the fuck away from the shield bunker.Gaidin wrote: Bearing this in mind, does anybody have a damn clue how much of that rebel squad on the moon of Endor actually survived? Because...character shields being character shields. It really was kind of a last ditch con that got them into that base, and there wasn't anybody but the main characters and ewoks walking around, that I could see anyway.