Ahhh, feel that stench

[His Divine Shadow]

Ummm.. people like to ignore me bringing this up but most of the properties of turbolasers are explained by a theory called soliton wave theory were two overlapping waves of em are put out so that at a certain distance the hit in a spectacular explosion of interference. I don't understand it that well myself seeing as to I lost the link to the page but if anyone can find it the thing sounds remarkably like a turbolaser "bolt".

Doesn't work in vacuum though as I've been told.

[AdmiralKanos]

Soliton waves must be confined by a waveguide. A light pulse in a fibre-optic cable is a soliton wave.

However, I don't see anyone stringing waveguides between Imperial ships and their targets before firing.

[LMSx]

However, I don't see anyone stringing waveguides between Imperial ships and their targets before firing.

Hrm.....Slower then light, eh?

[Vympel]

This is DarkStar's bullshit theory, that has nothing to do with the actual facts. That is NOT "damage", that is NOT a "break". That's a SEAM, where the armor snaps together. Unless, like Darkstar, you believe that stormtroopers are born into their armor and never take it off.

Watch the beginning of ANH, and look at the calves of some of the stormtroopers as they board the T4. The SEAMS, flex open as they run. Which is a GOOD thing, unless you want troopers hampered by the armor even more than they already are.

Have you posted this refutation of Darkstar's idiocy on your site?

[Soulman]

Maybe TL bolts incorporate a generator for a magnetic bottle so that you don't have a magic self sustaining bottle. They may actually be a frame around the bolt. The green glowy bit could be a type of forcefield which contains the bottle or perhaps is an advanced form of it. If you chuck a repulsor in the generator as well it explains why they don't drop in gravity fields.

[Dark Hellion]

Thanks for the soliton wave theory thing. I lost my link and never got much more than a little look at it. Thanks.

[Illuminatus Primus]

The recoil argument is contradicted by the SHPA-Ts which fire visible bolts, and the sleeve does recoil, but returns to position while the beam is still firing.

Your point being?

Meaning recoil isn't a problem for the delayed-pulse version of the Saxton theory, fucktard.

Flakbursting is something I never conceeded on, because its fucking stupid.

Then you are fucking stupid as it is canon thanks to TESB.

Blow me cocksucker. MT-range bolts won't have tiny kg-TNT-range blasts. But CoE and CoM is obviously above your fucking head.

Shields do not end at a point, but slowly decrease with range--the visible affect is a side-affect of shield interaction. This is supported by partial-interaction in AOTC where the bolts go through the "burst".

Flakbursting bolts would not have bolts that continue through the "burst" which is only worth a kg of TNT or so, unless one assumes the bolt automatically sends most of its energy in neutrinos or something, and this doesn't account for how they "know" to burst, or why they would since its wholely useless anyway. Flakbursting loses to parsimony.

No, you lose to canon evidence. Flakbursting is seen in TESB. Please try and actually watch the movies and read the official evidence before making a fool of yourself.

How about you shut the fuck up you cocksucking fuckhead?

The official evidence says only of flakbursts but nothing of energy bolts suddenly terminating in violation of CoE and CoM while somehow having knowledge to blow up at a certain time despite not being a projectile.

Canon descriptions of shield mechanics allows the shield-interaction theory to explain "flakbursting" and makes a whole hell of a lot more sense than flakbursting.

[Illuminatus Primus]

I have been toying with the idea that a turbolaser, or blaster might be a colloquial word for many kinds of weapon types, we might have our old magic plasma weapons to funky lightspeed weapons and other energy weapons and whatnot all mentioned with one name, thats simply slang for an energy weapon, blasters for small arms and small shipmounted weapons, laser-cannons for medium weapons and TL's for large weapons, that and they all seem to utilize tibanna gas in one way or the other, geonosian fighters and the Aetherspite fighter use it as coolant for their weapons, some weapons might use it for plasma that they transmute into some magic energy bolt, some might energize it and use it in a similar way that one would use a bomb-pumped x-ray laser.

Which explains descrepencies.

You have c TLs, movie "magic" TLs, projectiles, plasma, etc.

I think ICs are best explained by a tiny projectile confining whatever particles make up the IC bolt.

[Lord Poe]

Have you posted this refutation of Darkstar's idiocy on your site?

No. There's quite a few things I haven't updated, such as the Falcon's superior (and canon) weapons range compared to that retard's claims. Basically, I'm not going to play "wag the dog" like Anderson does, and let someone control my webpage updates. I'll just wait for an unsuspecting Trektard that rubs 'em out to Darkstar's idiotic theories to post, then smack them the fuck down for their stupidity. When it interests me to do so!

[His Divine Shadow]

Have you posted this refutation of Darkstar's idiocy on your site?

No. There's quite a few things I haven't updated, such as the Falcon's superior (and canon) weapons range compared to that retard's claims.

Oh? What source did you get that from?
I know of the lightsecond ranges from Destiny's Way, but it's not canon.

[Master of Ossus]

Those people are growing increasingly stupider. I simply hate people who subscribe to the "Style over substance" 'he's too arrogant for me' bit, and remind that latest idiot that you don't HAVE to present reasons why a lightspeed beam is beneficial, you only need to show that that's what's going on. You've done that. End of debate. G'night.

[Lord Poe]

Have you posted this refutation of Darkstar's idiocy on your site?

No. There's quite a few things I haven't updated, such as the Falcon's superior (and canon) weapons range compared to that retard's claims.

Oh? What source did you get that from?
I know of the lightsecond ranges from Destiny's Way, but it's not canon.

I laid it out in this thread when what I thought was an RSA sucktit (still do) brought it up.

Basically, if the Falcon's weapons range was 200 meters, as claimed on DickSnot's webpage, then it would have slammed into the the hull of the Death Star before being able to pull out after it vaped Vader's wingman at the end of ANH.

[Traceroute]

On a side note about storm trooper armor, it doesn't necessarily need to be super hard. Though this may be a poor analogy, kevlar vests are very flexible and completely vulnerable to slow, pointy things (like knives) but do a handy job of stopping bullets - which is precisely what they are designed to do.

So storm trooper armor doesn't stop an ewok axe. As Mr. Wong points out on this very site, engineers design for specific uses, balanced against cost. If you can provide adequate protection against energy weapons and radiation, which are probably the most lethal things storm troopers are exposed to, and you can do it with an inexpensive, flexible material, wouldn't that be preferable to using ISD armor? It's not like storm troopers are putting down ewok revolts every day.

Not that it really matters, since in the picture provided, it's pretty clear it's a seam. Just my 2 cents ...

[Illuminatus Primus]

On a side note about storm trooper armor, it doesn't necessarily need to be super hard. Though this may be a poor analogy, kevlar vests are very flexible and completely vulnerable to slow, pointy things (like knives) but do a handy job of stopping bullets - which is precisely what they are designed to do.

Kevlar can be pierced by knives because the pressure is actually greater than a bullet with all that momentum over such a tiny point.

This doesn't apply with Stormtrooper armor due to the spear-throwing-the-trooper-across-the-room example.

[Traceroute]

Quite right, my mistake:

"He looked down at his chest in amazement and saw only a nick in the white armor where the spear had struck."

From Mr. Wong's discussion of imperial body armor.

Shucks, I guess I have to go watch RotJ again

[LT.Hit-Man]

Yep I think it's time to brake it out.
* Sends a C.B.B.B. over to the shit hole on the ass end of the net and watchs as SB is consummed in the flames of fear, terror and maddness *

Now that's just fucked up, there should a law of some kind agest this crap on SB.