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Posted: 2004-01-17 09:45pm
by revprez
aerius wrote:Oh and BTW, you're welcome to visit the government subsidized housing a couple blocks from my home to watch the drug deals & other crimes go down.
Queensbridge is enough for me, thanks.

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Posted: 2004-01-17 09:48pm
by revprez
LadyTevar wrote:So don't tell me about Ghettos and sterotypes, ok?
I won't. Anyone wanna pick up where the last serious post left off?

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Posted: 2004-01-17 09:52pm
by haas mark
revprez wrote:
verilon wrote:I dunno about the residents themselves, because that's a qualitative quantifier that cannot be measured.
I'm not so sure. In managerial science lab my group came up with metrics to measure confidence in security on campus.
Violence is immeasurable. Confidence is not (to an extent).
Inner city = suburb, in many cases.
Well, there's an interesting project for an intrepid poster.
What else do you call a subset of a large city?
Which is apparently more than your own. I guess I have more authority on the matter, huh?
I doubt it, really. If your experience tracked with mine--if you'd spent your life hopping around major cities--I might reconsider. I've spent most of my life in Queens, New York. We have dozens of inner city communities to choose from just in that area. And then I get five other borroughs to play with. Since I'm feeliing so generous today, I'll call it a draw. ;)

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Oh, seems I forgot to mention all of the six or so subsections of Albuquerque I've lived in.. Big fucking deal, you have been in larger cities than I have. In New York, it's all the same in tha area. Why? Because it's a centralized locality. Having lived across the country, I'd say I've more experience than you.

~ver

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:01pm
by revprez
verilon wrote:Violence is immeasurable. Confidence is not (to an extent).
Why is violence immeasurable? We simply come up with an operating definition we can quantify and go from there.
What else do you call a subset of a large city?
Oh, I thought you were saying some suburbs have as high (or low) crime rates as inner cities. So what does suburb = city mean?
Oh, seems I forgot to mention all of the six or so subsections of Albuquerque I've lived in.. Big fucking deal, you have been in larger cities than I have. In New York, it's all the same in tha area. Why? Because it's a centralized locality.
Hahaha. That's bullshit.
Having lived across the country, I'd say I've more experience than you.
Hmm...some assorted small towns and Albuquerque. Nah, I'ma stick with my Cambridge and NYC experience. I've also lived in Newburgh, NY for two years.

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Posted: 2004-01-17 10:12pm
by LadyTevar
revprez wrote:
LadyTevar wrote:So don't tell me about Ghettos and sterotypes, ok?
I won't. Anyone wanna pick up where the last serious post left off?

Rev Prez
Sure. I think it wasn't in this thread, tho, or anything by you that I've seen thus far.

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:17pm
by Dalton
revprez wrote:I've spent most of my life in Queens, New York.
Yeah? Whereabouts? What exit off the LIE?

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:28pm
by Dorsk 81
*Is suddenly reminded of the South Park episode where Cartman thinks Chef is his dad*
[Cartman]What up gee's...know what I'm saying....[/Cartman]

Generaly as a rule, I always think wiggers have probably seen Menace To Society a few too manys times.
Luckily there are very few around here, it's mainly townies I have to put up with and from them the slang is few and far between...maily because the only words they use are: "sound" "innit" "blatently" and "Oi oi".

P.S.
Why hasn't this revprez fool been banned yet? Or is it mearly there for entertainment value?

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:34pm
by revprez
Dalton wrote:
revprez wrote:I've spent most of my life in Queens, New York.
Yeah? Whereabouts? What exit off the LIE?
Why take the LIE? Exit 13 off the Parkway.

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Posted: 2004-01-17 10:37pm
by Dalton
revprez wrote:
Dalton wrote:
revprez wrote:I've spent most of my life in Queens, New York.
Yeah? Whereabouts? What exit off the LIE?
Why take the LIE? Exit 13 off the Parkway.
Yeah? Which one?

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:38pm
by revprez
Dalton wrote:
revprez wrote:
Dalton wrote: Yeah? Whereabouts? What exit off the LIE?
Why take the LIE? Exit 13 off the Parkway.
Yeah? Which one?
Sigh...the Grand Central Parkway.

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Posted: 2004-01-17 10:41pm
by Dalton
revprez wrote:
Dalton wrote:Yeah? Which one?
Sigh...the Grand Central Parkway.
Yeah? I was born near there. I was also in Elmhurst a little while ago. Queens Boulevard is fucking insane.

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:43pm
by revprez
Dalton wrote:
revprez wrote:
Dalton wrote:Yeah? Which one?
Sigh...the Grand Central Parkway.
Yeah? I was born near there. I was also in Elmhurst a little while ago. Queens Boulevard is fucking insane.
I'm from Corona, 102 and Alstyne. Where'd you go to school?

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Posted: 2004-01-17 10:44pm
by Dalton
revprez wrote:I'm from Corona, 102 and Alstyne. Where'd you go to school?
I've got family in Corona, but I live just over the border, by Belmont, so you probably never heard of my school :)

Posted: 2004-01-17 10:45pm
by revprez
Dalton wrote:
revprez wrote:I'm from Corona, 102 and Alstyne. Where'd you go to school?
I've got family in Corona, but I live just over the border, by Belmont, so you probably never heard of my school :)
I've got family in Elmhurst. :)

Or used to anyway...I guess now they ain't family.

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Posted: 2004-01-17 10:54pm
by Crayz9000
Dalton and revprez were peacefully discussing points of origin... I fail to see why that requires Horsemanization.

Posted: 2004-01-18 12:47am
by RedImperator
Pointless flaming and dickwaving split. I'll remind you all that even though Revprez has earned a custom title, flaming him when he's behaving civilized and ignoring his arguments in favor of insulting him is spam, and if more of it lands in the HoS some people who weren't expecting it might just get the Horseman treatment.

And now, this thread is getting sent back to Off Topic. Going up.

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:02am
by Hamel
My brother is a bonafide wiggah

Like most, he cries like a baby when he doesn't get his way, and he's 20 years old

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:05am
by haas mark
revprez wrote:
verilon wrote:Violence is immeasurable. Confidence is not (to an extent).
Why is violence immeasurable? We simply come up with an operating definition we can quantify and go from there.
Misstatement on my part. It is measurable.. but only to an extent. Rather, the violence you wish to measure is inside a person - that is immeasurable, as is confidence.
What else do you call a subset of a large city?
Oh, I thought you were saying some suburbs have as high (or low) crime rates as inner cities. So what does suburb = city mean?
I said that an inner city is a suburb, in many cases, though that is not always true.
Oh, seems I forgot to mention all of the six or so subsections of Albuquerque I've lived in.. Big fucking deal, you have been in larger cities than I have. In New York, it's all the same in tha area. Why? Because it's a centralized locality.
Hahaha. That's bullshit.
So you're trying to say that the inner cities are all the same across the board? THAT is bullshit, and I, for one, should know.
Having lived across the country, I'd say I've more experience than you.
Hmm...some assorted small towns and Albuquerque. Nah, I'ma stick with my Cambridge and NYC experience. I've also lived in Newburgh, NY for two years.

Rev Prez
Norfolk isn't exactly a small town, you know. It IS home of the largest naval base.. Which is why I was there (navy family), but that's aside from the point. I know what it's like, just as you do, but I'd rather you not try to say that southeastern and southwestern inner cities are the same as northeastern ones, because they are anything BUT.

~ver

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:11am
by revprez
verilon wrote:Misstatement on my part. It is measurable.. but only to an extent. Rather, the violence you wish to measure is inside a person - that is immeasurable, as is confidence.
I'm no psychologist, so I'm gonna pass taking up the internal stuff. Why is confidence immeasurable? You have consumer confidence indices, after all.
I said that an inner city is a suburb, in many cases, though that is not always true.
I'm not following you. Perhaps my notion of "inner city" differs from yours.
So you're trying to say that the inner cities are all the same across the board? THAT is bullshit, and I, for one, should know.
No, I'm saying it's bullshit to say NYC is all the same.
Norfolk isn't exactly a small town, you know. It IS home of the largest naval base.. Which is why I was there (navy family), but that's aside from the point. I know what it's like, just as you do, but I'd rather you not try to say that southeastern and southwestern inner cities are the same as northeastern ones, because they are anything BUT.
Hey, I'm not denying your experience. I'm saying yours is no more extensive or varied than mine.

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Posted: 2004-01-18 01:14am
by haas mark
revprez wrote:No, I'm saying it's bullshit to say NYC is all the same.
Never said anything about the suburbs of NY, mind you. I know that even in a centralized area things can be vastly different.
Norfolk isn't exactly a small town, you know. It IS home of the largest naval base.. Which is why I was there (navy family), but that's aside from the point. I know what it's like, just as you do, but I'd rather you not try to say that southeastern and southwestern inner cities are the same as northeastern ones, because they are anything BUT.
Hey, I'm not denying your experience. I'm saying yours is no more extensive or varied than mine.

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Ok then as long as we're clear on that.

~ver

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:25am
by Durandal
I've noticed a general obsession among many middle-class white kids to make their lives seem worse than they actually are. People in general like to do this for some reason.

And let's face it. The media, to some extent, glamorizes the "gangsta" lifestyle. Kids think that it's exciting and stimulating. They see movies that feature their favorite rap stars and all that shit, so they get this weird idea of what life as an outlaw is like. There's sex, drugs, women and lots of money to be had. You don't have to go to school, and you scoff at the law because you're a bad-ass.

They've obviously never seen movies like Blow or Requiem for a Dream, which paint a far more accurate picture of the drug trade and what life as an outlaw is really like.

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:28am
by revprez
verilon wrote:Never said anything about the suburbs of NY, mind you. I know that even in a centralized area things can be vastly different.
Just out of curiousity, are you describing Queens as a suburb of New York?
Ok then as long as we're clear on that.
Cool.

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Posted: 2004-01-18 01:29am
by haas mark
revprez wrote:
verilon wrote:Never said anything about the suburbs of NY, mind you. I know that even in a centralized area things can be vastly different.
Just out of curiousity, are you describing Queens as a suburb of New York?
Only if it is one.

~ver

Posted: 2004-01-18 01:32am
by revprez
verilon wrote:
revprez wrote:
verilon wrote:Never said anything about the suburbs of NY, mind you. I know that even in a centralized area things can be vastly different.
Just out of curiousity, are you describing Queens as a suburb of New York?
Only if it is one.

~ver
Oh, okay. Nah, we're a borrough. 2 million strong, bay-bay!

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Posted: 2004-01-18 01:36am
by revprez
My favorite wigga...

Image

Aight
When this neighborhood psychopath isn't torturing your house cat, he's intimidating the local children for lunch money. Armed with a pellet gun, this wigger not only conveys the promise of a nasty bruise or minor infection, he epitomizes the fact that suburbs everywhere have lost their innocence. The home owner's regulations and zoning restrictions are but a facade, hiding something so terribly gruesome we've yet to talk about it.

http://www.wiggaz.com/pics9.htm