And that's just such a terrible thing. Considering that he's lost 12 years of his life and not just 12 years wages, I'm not seeing the problem there.The above is a quote from the Barrister and he puts forth that the argument is about getting the compensation right not making the guy pay for his own imprisonment.
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It may not be a problem but if you want to give the guy something extra because of what he suffered then label it as such not just slap a little somehting extra on top because you feel like it.Crazy_Vasey wrote: And that's just such a terrible thing. Considering that he's lost 12 years of his life and not just 12 years wages, I'm not seeing the problem there.
This is not about debt. As it says in the article this is about not over compensating him. I agree he owes the government nothing for what happened, but they also do not owe him anything more financially than the money he should have had by now.Edi wrote:He has no debt whatsoever to the government. They would need to have this signed in a law to have any hold. He did not enter prison willingly, he was forced, without justification. Therefore there is no contractual basis for the payment they want, there is no taxation basis for it, nor any other than just the government wanting more money.Sharp-kun wrote:Provide an example of where it violates the principles. It also remains fact that it wasn't Blunkett who originally made the ruling.Edi wrote:This bullshit you advocate violates the basic foundation principles of your justice system, and just because David Blunkett is a contemptible asshole who has no respect for the rule of law doesn't make your views any less wrong.
We'll find out in a day or two when the judgement is made.
It was calculated to be 650,000 quid, so nice try with the red herring. Where's your evidence that they have a legal right to demand payment from him?[/quote]Sharp-kun wrote:He's being victimised or is he just having his actual compensation calculated?Edi wrote:I've never found one yet who actually supports making innocent people victimized by government fuckups pay for them after having their life permanently screwed up. As of now, Brits have the dubious distinction of taking that dishonor on themselves.
It was calculated at £650,000 then it was realised that was over compensating him, so they asked for some back.
Compensaion is not meant to over-compensate.
Oh no, the justice system, which is the judicial arm of the government fucked up, and when the mistake was finally corrected as well as can be reasonably expected, the executive arm tries to screw him over? Nice try at splitting hairs, though.[/quote]Sharp-kun wrote:But it wasn't this government.Edi wrote:When a government makes mistakes like this one, it is its duty to take the resulting hits without complaint.
I was actually referring to the fact that it was the Tory government that fucked up, not the different arms. Blame them for the mistake.
As would I but its not going to happen. The government can't give him 12 years extra life. If I were him I would be happy with my £600,000+ and try to get on with my life.Edi wrote: Which is not going to do anything to bring back those 12 years, and frankly, I'd choose 12 years of freedom over 650,000 quid and 12 years of my life stolen, every single time.
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Actual convicts don't get any compensation at all.HemlockGrey wrote:So why don't they make actual convicts pay again?