Batman wrote:
Borg drones aren't typically fitted with KE shielding. This has already been established. In fact, we've only seen one Borg drone utilize it. This does not refute the capability to construct and employ said shielding.
Yes it does, as that drone employed
29th century technology to do it.
Explain how the 29th century holoemitter designed and built a KE shield then, and made it practical. This should quite interesting, since we know the mobile emitter was adapted to regulate One's neural functions...and that was it. The nanoprobes replicated the emitter's alloy as One's armor, but other than that the emitter's contributions seem to be quite minor.
They may have the theory behind it (which would explain how One knew to do so with the right materials) but they do not have the capability as such.
The technology was built and worked fine. That is more than just a "theory".
Borg technology also has the ability to create a drone, from scratch, within a
day. Impressive, no? Then why don't they employ it? Because the Borg's current method of expanding their numbers is much faster. They can gain new drones in just a couple of hours by assimilating a victim (minutes if we ignore not being fully equipped), without the resource drain of One's creation.
The Borg's ability to construct functional and practical KE shielding is also established, however as I pointed out earlier, the necessity of employing them in minor at best.
Yet the Borg conquered these thousands of assimilated races, despite your assertion that they should've employed the most "basic" KE weapons. Obviously, they failed and the Borg succeeded. Without KE shields. Obviously they don't need them that badly, huh?
They have
assimilated thousands of cultures. Wether or not those were
conquered is unestablished (assuming no canon evidence to the contrary, of course).
I suspect we can safely assume the Borg have in fact "conquered" many cultures(quite easily thousands, they've classified at least 10,026 as of STVOY "Dark Frontier"). The fact their space/deployment spans an entire quadrant or more would seem to justify this assumption.
And given that just about every time KE is employed against them they get reamed, if they do have them one wonders why they don't use them...
You mean like in First Contact, where the drones, despite this "horrible vulnerability", sent the Starfleet force packing and made them so desperate as to try and self destruct their own ship?
We've seen modern Borg technology construct a fully functional KE shield and we saw it effectively used.
By a drone with access to 29th century technology.
Which has absolutely zero credibility for designing and constructing said Borg technology.
Given the enormous success of the Borg Collective,
Excuse me? They regularly get thwarted by what may very well the most inept important military power in the history of TV SciFi...
Riight. At best, the Collective has a passing interest in humanity. The Borg Queen herself identified humanity as a low quality/priority assimilation target. The fact is the Borg lost their intial assault on the basis of a fluke, and their second assault was a miscalculation on humanity's ability to resist their assimilation attempt (no one here is saying the Borg are infalliable). That hardly qualifies as "regularily thwarting" the Borg. Everyone here (I presume) seems to rationally acknowledge if the Borg really wanted to, they'd crush the Federation like a bug.
obviously the "need" to employ KE shielding is quite insignificant.
Given that virtually every time they are attacked via KE they get their asses handed to them, wether or not they
need them if they
have and don't
use them that merely reaffirms everybody's conclusion that the Borg are stupid like nobody's business...
For the last time, the Borg
technology base can
easily construct a functional and practical KE shield. We've seen it done and used. But the Borg don't
need it to the degree you're attempting to imply.
We know Borg technology can grow a fully adult drone within a day. But their current method of expanding their numbers is much faster, and *gasp* more efficient.
The only arguements you've been able to submit about the "desperate need for KE shielding" are, at best, minor exceptions to the rule:
First Contact can be
easily written off as a scenario where KE shielding was "desperately" needed, because the Starfleet forces
lost that battle.
Data's ability to throw drones around can
also be written off, unless someone would moronically suggest the Borg should efficiently deploy KE shielding throughout the Collective to combat a
unique and
single andriod, which can be man handled by a couple of drones anyhow (how do you think they strapped him down in FC? Hell, even Locutus gave Data a run for his money in a test of strength in BOBW).
Worf's presence can
also be written off, since his presence did precisely jack shit about saving the Enterprise, and his presence was also an unanticipated variable. Since the Borg took the Enterprise anyhow, obviously their boarding action had sufficient redundancy for unexcpected variables. Had it been a Klingon ship, the Borg would've sent different types of drones. As we saw in STVOY "Unimatrix Zero", the Borg have drones that can engage and bitchslap Klingon warriors with armed with melle weapons (Bat'Leth in that case). (Again, despite their "vulnerability" to KE attacks).
Once more-
DO you, or do you NOT claim that 24th century Borg have effective individual- level KE shields?
They obviously and irrefuteably possess the technology, but chose not to employ it. Given the Borg are hardly in need of it (like their ability to build a drone from scratch in less than a day), the fact it's not employed is hardly worth note.
If you DO, why pray tell do they NEVER EVER use them
Because drones aren't equipped with KE shielding, because from a cost to benefit ratio, they are hardly worth the effort (it is inefficient to equip your troops with technology if the expectation is that they will not need it in any significant scenario). Drones already bitchslap enemy units in hand to hand well enough. Drones can even manhandle
Data.
(and NO, One was NOT strictly a 24th century Borg)?
The assertion One was a "29th century" Borg is supported solely by dialogue by a Starfleet crew that SDN members take enormous glee in pointing out are
morons(until upping their intelligence level supports their arguements...how surprising).
His capabilities come across as nothing more than just Borg technology that is either not widespread or the Collective doesn't feel the need to use (like KE shielding, drone creation within a day, etc).