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Posted: 2005-06-23 10:38pm
by HyperionX
Slightly off topic but it seems that the last nail in the coffin for an included HDD for the X360 has just been hammered in:
http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/119 ... lmdahl/p2/
Do Xbox 360 games require the detachable HDD to be plugged in for them to work?
Todd Holmdahl: No. Xbox 360 games and Xbox Live do not require the HDD or a Memory Unit.
Not "proof" but damn is that good circumstancial evidence.
Posted: 2005-06-23 11:11pm
by Series1Rx7
ggs wrote:Stark wrote:Yeah, like how 40Gbs cost AU$60 and 80Gbs cost AU$80. Thats progress!
Retail it is more like AU$80 for a 40gb harddisk and ~$90 for a 80gb harddisk. Cheaper when you buy in bulk of course.
What? No, 40gb is $60 retail and 80gb is $80 retail. Where are you getting your crazy prices?
Posted: 2005-06-23 11:36pm
by Xon
Series1Rx7 wrote:ggs wrote:Stark wrote:Yeah, like how 40Gbs cost AU$60 and 80Gbs cost AU$80. Thats progress!
Retail it is more like AU$80 for a 40gb harddisk and ~$90 for a 80gb harddisk. Cheaper when you buy in bulk of course.
What? No, 40gb is $60 retail and 80gb is $80 retail. Where are you getting your crazy prices?
Depends were and what you shop for. I looked at a relatively expensive shop 1st.
Cute,
linky, The price difference between a Western digital 80 GB, 7200RPM & 8mb cache and a 40 GB, 7200RPM & 2mb cache is 10 cents.
Posted: 2005-06-23 11:46pm
by Series1Rx7
Austin's head office is about 200m's from where I work!
They are fairly cheap, and there's not much point going elsewhere until the 'first time' you have a problem returning faulty goods to them.
Posted: 2005-06-24 12:05am
by Stark
Well, I'm talking wholesale and ggs and I are both in Australia: if you're talking about Austin, Texas, your prices might not be in the same currency.
It really does surprise me with the whole no-HDD thing. There's got to be something wrong with every generation of consoles, I guess.
Posted: 2005-06-24 01:21am
by Praxis
Series1Rx7 wrote:ggs wrote:Stark wrote:Yeah, like how 40Gbs cost AU$60 and 80Gbs cost AU$80. Thats progress!
Retail it is more like AU$80 for a 40gb harddisk and ~$90 for a 80gb harddisk. Cheaper when you buy in bulk of course.
What? No, 40gb is $60 retail and 80gb is $80 retail. Where are you getting your crazy prices?
I'm expecting Microsoft will probably have some kind of protective case rather than just a raw hard drive. They'll probably also try to make a profit off of it.
Posted: 2005-06-24 01:23am
by Praxis
ggs wrote:Series1Rx7 wrote:ggs wrote:
Retail it is more like AU$80 for a 40gb harddisk and ~$90 for a 80gb harddisk. Cheaper when you buy in bulk of course.
What? No, 40gb is $60 retail and 80gb is $80 retail. Where are you getting your crazy prices?
Depends were and what you shop for. I looked at a relatively expensive shop 1st.
Cute,
linky, The price difference between a Western digital 80 GB, 7200RPM & 8mb cache and a 840 GB, 7200RPM & 2mb cache is 10 cents.
840 GB?!? In one drive? That's a typo, right?
Posted: 2005-06-24 01:25am
by Stark
Here in Australia we get all the ... best... typos. Or hard drives. You pick
Actually, has anyone seen the bit of the Xbox the HDD goes in? Is it a traditional removable drive, or under a panel laptop style? Is it designed to be installed and forgotten?
Posted: 2005-06-24 01:50am
by Series1Rx7
Stark wrote:Well, I'm talking wholesale and ggs and I are both in Australia: if you're talking about Austin, Texas, your prices might not be in the same currency.
It really does surprise me with the whole no-HDD thing. There's got to be something wrong with every generation of consoles, I guess.
Ummm... what?
Read the post again, view the link.
And pray tell, how could I be 200m away from 'Austin's head office' if I'm in Austin, TX?
Austin Computers, in PERTH, WA. We're the 'country that's a state of Australia', so naturally most things here are $10~ more expensive than the East Coast, so the prices you blokes came up with surprised me.
Posted: 2005-06-24 02:13am
by Stark
I am T3H LOSE!
Posted: 2005-06-24 03:42am
by Xon
Series1Rx7 wrote:Austin Computers, in PERTH, WA. We're the 'country that's a state of Australia', so naturally most things here are $10~ more expensive than the East Coast, so the prices you blokes came up with surprised me.
Someone else from Perth!
Simline is a more expensive online computing store, but they offer free metro delivery to the metro area in Perth, which for the smaller stuff is definitly cheaper
I normally check
PLE & Austin as well as simline to find computer parts.
Posted: 2005-06-24 03:59am
by Series1Rx7
ggs wrote:Series1Rx7 wrote:Austin Computers, in PERTH, WA. We're the 'country that's a state of Australia', so naturally most things here are $10~ more expensive than the East Coast, so the prices you blokes came up with surprised me.
Someone else from Perth!
Simline is a more expensive online computing store, but they offer free metro delivery to the metro area in Perth, which for the smaller stuff is definitly cheaper
I normally check
PLE & Austin as well as simline to find computer parts.
Yeah, I use them all when I can't be arsed using my trade accounts. Pick up a copy of the Sunday Times this week, head to the computer classies and see if you can find me ad, I wonder if you'll be able to guess which it is...
Didn't know there were still TA players in Perth. I haven't played in many years, all my mates like Warcraft 3, and the best War3 player among them always had the biggest whinge that there was no 'tactics' to TA because you didn't have to go and grab resources and deny the other play resources.
One moment...
Guess who was used to dominating RTS' and hated losing?
Damnit one eyeroll is more than enuff, no need for 20 of them.
~Faram
Posted: 2005-06-24 05:33pm
by Xon
HyperionX wrote:Slightly off topic but it seems that the last nail in the coffin for an included HDD for the X360 has just been hammered in:
http://interviews.teamxbox.com/xbox/119 ... lmdahl/p2/
Do Xbox 360 games require the detachable HDD to be plugged in for them to work?
Todd Holmdahl: No. Xbox 360 games and Xbox Live do not require the HDD or a Memory Unit.
Not "proof" but damn is that good circumstancial evidence.
le link
Both the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 feature removable 2.5” HDDs as an option for storage; the difference being that the PS3 won’t ship with a hard drive, while the Xbox 360 will.
Hopefully the the harddrive issue will be actually nailed down soon.
Posted: 2005-06-24 08:08pm
by Praxis
Anandtech isn't Microsoft and might not know their exact shipping plans.
Posted: 2005-06-25 03:08pm
by Max
Mr Bean wrote:Darksider wrote:That entry was written by someone anonymously.
Is this reliable?
If it is, I think I'll stick with Revolution or 360
Arse and Tomshardware confimred it so I say its good
I don't mean to sound ignorant...but who are they?
Posted: 2005-06-25 03:11pm
by Xon
mplsjocc wrote:Mr Bean wrote:Darksider wrote:That entry was written by someone anonymously.
Is this reliable?
If it is, I think I'll stick with Revolution or 360
Arse and Tomshardware confimred it so I say its good
I don't mean to sound ignorant...but who are they?
Ars technica &
Toms Hardware if I guess correctly on the 1st one
Posted: 2005-07-02 01:52am
by Loner
I don't know if this is neccessary or not, but
Gamespot has reported that the PS3 won't be bundled with a hard drive.
Report: PlayStation 3 not bundled with hard drive
Japanese magazine reports that Sony's next-generation console will not come with a default hard drive; SCE president says first model will be 80GB.
Sony's PlayStation 3 will not come packaged with a hard drive, reports the latest issue of Famitsu. While the machine comes with a 2.5-inch hard drive slot, consumers will be required to purchase and install the actual drive separately.
The news means that Microsoft's Xbox 360 will be the only one of the three next-generation consoles that will come with a hard drive. It comes with a detachable "outrigger" 20GB hard drive by default. Nintendo doesn't plan on the Revolution having a hard drive since the console uses 512MB of flash memory for data saving.
For Sony, offering the hard drive separately will cut costs for the PlayStation 3, which is expected to sell at around 44,800 yen ($410) in Japan according to a recent analysis by Merrill Lynch Japan Securities.
In recent interviews with the Japanese press, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi said that he expects the initial capacity of the PS3's hard drive to be 80GB. While Sony hasn't released any figures on how much its hard drive is expected to be priced at, a 2.5-inch 80GB in the current Japanese market costs around an average of 20,000 yen ($180). Sony sells its 40GB hard drive (SCPH-20401) for the PlayStation 2 for 10,479 yen ($95).
Given Sony's past strategies, it is possible the company will offer a hard-drive-bundled PlayStation 3 as well as a standard edition. When Sony launched its PSP in Japan last December, the company offered the handheld machine in two packages: a normal edition priced at 19,800 yen ($179), and a "Value Pack" edition priced at 24,800 yen ($224), which came bundled with a number of accessories, including a 32MB Memory Stick Duo for saving game data. However, in America, the PSP Value Pack is the only option available.
By Staff -- GameSpot
POSTED: 07/01/05 09:40 AM PST
Posted: 2005-07-02 05:29am
by Mr Bean
Loner wrote:I don't know if this is neccessary or not, but
Gamespot has reported that the PS3 won't be bundled with a hard drive.
Report: PlayStation 3 not bundled with hard drive
In recent interviews with the Japanese press, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutaragi said that he expects the initial capacity of the PS3's hard drive to be 80GB. While Sony hasn't released any figures on how much its hard drive is expected to be priced at, a 2.5-inch 80GB in the current Japanese market costs around an average of 20,000 yen ($180). Sony sells its 40GB hard drive (SCPH-20401) for the PlayStation 2 for 10,479 yen ($95).
By Staff -- GameSpot
POSTED: 07/01/05 09:40 AM PST
Ok I can see it now, the first hardware geeks are already cracking their nukles as the prospect. A 80GB hard drive does not cost $180, heck a full extenal hard drive of 200 GB size can be had for $180(And only if your overpaying.)
Posted: 2005-07-02 05:50am
by Uraniun235
Yeah, but we're not talking regular 3.5" form factor, we're talking the smaller 2.5" usually found in laptops.
Posted: 2005-07-02 07:19am
by Mr Bean
Uraniun235 wrote:Yeah, but we're not talking regular 3.5" form factor, we're talking the smaller 2.5" usually found in laptops.
I can and acutaly just bought an 80 gig for my laptop for $120, its more expensive but still to high by half.
Posted: 2005-07-02 03:36pm
by Uraniun235
I've heard that computer hardware tends to be more expensive in Japan.
Posted: 2005-07-03 03:42am
by Mr Bean
Uraniun235 wrote:I've heard that computer hardware tends to be more expensive in Japan.
Nope, been there done that, bought the T-shirt, while not as cheap as Taiwan or as expensive as Germany, Japan is roughly equivlant to the US in terms of costs for most items.(Proccesors are acutaly normaly cheaper)
I remeber LCD's being hellava expensive.
And this was as of five months ago.