Star Dreadnought vs Viscount battleship

Trooper TK12746 · Post by **Trooper TK12746** » 2005-06-16 04:29pm

he presence of numerous Chiss fighters would suggest at least one home vessel for them, the Hutts were present at a meeting of fleet commanders, and IIRC a P'w'eck was as well. I know Bakuran warships are mentioned, and given the very small number of such warships, I'd assume them to be complemeted by the more numerous P'w'eck/Ssi-ruuk ships.

The Chiss fighters were led by Jagged Fel and had been fighting with the NR/GFFA for the entire war, they had no homeship. I couldn't find the part abou the hutts, and a P'weck could be there just as a representative of his species, maybe some of them would be serving on the three remaining Bakuran warships.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-06-16 06:51pm

Trooper TK12746 wrote:
IIRC the only time we here of a Viscount-type warship (the Viscount itself) commanding a fleet is in "The Unifying Force" when she fought alongside such ships as the Executor-class, Guardian and the MC90-type, Harbinger.

I thought that battle was led by one of those new Bothan ships (their name escapes me).

No. the Viscount, Harbringer, and Guardian were leading the battle

And an ISD has an armament capable of cracking the crust of a planet. You cannot really judge firepower by that qualifier.

You can't judge an energy valyue based off the energy it would take to accomplish a task? Are you fucking retarded?

The Original Nex · Post by **The Original Nex** » 2005-06-16 08:21pm

Trooper TK12746 wrote: The Chiss fighters were led by Jagged Fel and had been fighting with the NR/GFFA for the entire war, they had no homeship.

Perhaps, but I was under the impression that there were many more Chiss fighters than the two or three squadrons that followed Fel about earlier. And it the Chiss sent more fighters, they would have needed a mothership, as fighter hyperspace ranges are necessarily limited.

I couldn't find the part abou the hutts, and a P'weck could be there just as a representative of his species, maybe some of them would be serving on the three remaining Bakuran warships.

They're there. I see no reason why they'd be at a meeting of military leaders if they themselves were supplying no ships.

Trooper TK12746 · Post by **Trooper TK12746** » 2005-06-16 09:52pm

No. the Viscount, Harbringer, and Guardian were leading the battle

I just reread the book, Admiral Kre'Fey was leading the fleet overall from the Bothan Assault Cruiser Ralroost, and Wedge Antilles was leading another fleet from the Star Destroyer Mon Mothma.

On a side note, it mentions a pre-empire vessel that might have been a precursor to the ISD Right to Rule. Maybe and Acclamator or a Venerator?

And an ISD has an armament capable of cracking the crust of a planet. You cannot really judge firepower by that qualifier.
You can't judge an energy valyue based off the energy it would take to accomplish a task? Are you fucking retarded?

You can't base the firepower of a larger ship off of a feat that a smaller ship can do. We don't know if it can do it faster or more effectively, so we can't know what the Viscount is capable of. Only that it is at least equal in firepower to an ISD, which was known already. Many ships have the capability to crack the crust of a planet.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2005-06-17 12:05am

Trooper TK12746 wrote:
No. the Viscount, Harbringer, and Guardian were leading the battle
I just reread the book, Admiral Kre'Fey was leading the fleet overall from the Bothan Assault Cruiser Ralroost, and Wedge Antilles was leading another fleet from the Star Destroyer Mon Mothma.

Which in no way refutes my point that those three were dealing out death like no ones business.

On a side note, it mentions a pre-empire vessel that might have been a precursor to the ISD Right to Rule. Maybe and Acclamator or a Venerator?

Its also said to be 400 meters long.

And an ISD has an armament capable of cracking the crust of a planet. You cannot really judge firepower by that qualifier.
You can't judge an energy valyue based off the energy it would take to accomplish a task? Are you fucking retarded?
You can't base the firepower of a larger ship off of a feat that a smaller ship can do. We don't know if it can do it faster or more effectively, so we can't know what the Viscount is capable of. Only that it is at least equal in firepower to an ISD, which was known already. Many ships have the capability to crack the crust of a planet.

News flash moron - I didn't. I only said that the MC80B was said to have that capability - which is true- and then pointed out that larger, more powerful, more heavily armed ships existed, pointing to a far higher firepower rating for those ships.

More to the point, the peak power of an Imperator is about 10^25 range. As I pointed out, evidence suggests that tne MC80B is in the 10^26 range. So I'm not just basing it off one factoid.

Trooper TK12746 · Post by **Trooper TK12746** » 2005-06-17 08:05am

Then I misunderstood what you were saying.

Trooper TK12746 wrote:
Quote:
No. the Viscount, Harbringer, and Guardian were leading the battle
I just reread the book, Admiral Kre'Fey was leading the fleet overall from the Bothan Assault Cruiser Ralroost, and Wedge Antilles was leading another fleet from the Star Destroyer Mon Mothma.
Which in no way refutes my point that those three were dealing out death like no ones business.

I was pointing out that they were not leading the two most important fleets. So, they are obviously not as important as commandships as theiy were supposed to be. I am not disputing that the Visount led a fleet. I am disputing that it led the fleet.