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Rob Wilson wrote:

Knife wrote:
Don't know about company reps or anything, but yah, the MP is a fine weapon and HK can sure make good weapons in general

Not so much company reps as Ex-servicemen and Policemen employed by H&K to know these weapons inside and out, liase with Forces that use them and find the best tactics and methods of using them, they then demonstrate these around the world. Mostly they deal with MP-5s, G3's and USPs but they also have specialist courses just on the MP5K's and MP5SDA3's. Quite good little freebies if your a soldier looking to learn about the sort of weapons he's never going to see again outside of films (when he can point and laugh at how they're misused).

Speaking of which, I heard that the perfered method of holding a sub machine gun in the EU is to push it away from your body against the sling for stabilization. Is this true or do you all just stick the buttstock in your shoulder like everyone else. I would have discounted it, but I heard it from a credible friend a while ago.

Knife wrote:
Speaking of which, I heard that the perfered method of holding a sub machine gun in the EU is to push it away from your body against the sling for stabilization. Is this true or do you all just stick the buttstock in your shoulder like everyone else. I would have discounted it, but I heard it from a credible friend a while ago.

For a minute there I thought you were talking about the Expanded Universe there, Damned ASVS thinking

No we use the butt in shoulder if it has one. In the case of the MP5K it sits in a shoulder rig which swivels with the weapon still inside, so you fire the weapon with a hand on the pistol grip, on the foregrip and the holster acts as you third point of contact (also speeds up the time-to-use). It's too small, and the foregrip induces twist if only it and the pistol grip are held, for accurate shooting without the holster. Besides which it' a rapid reaction Anti-ambush weapon for BG's, nothing else. The French liked to fire thier MAT-49's using four points of contact (pistol grip, Foregrip, sling and buttstock held against the hip with elbow) but other than that i can't really think of anyone pushing it forewards against the sling unless their Buttstock is retracted and there isn't time to extend it.

I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Hyperion wrote:my dad is WW2-era ex-USAF i forgot his rank and position though.

i myself am hoping to join either the Navy or Air Force after i get out of university (electrical engineering)... but i have my doubts as to if they'd even take me (have been on anti-depression meds before) or even how long i'd be able to stay in (i'm bisexual, and not exactly into women, right now at least), even though i know i'd enjoy it. i'm currently joining CAP.

This is the problem with not seeing a thread...you're three pages late with information:

Anti-depressants will NOT make you unrecruitable, nor will a history of counseling so long as your doctor says you are stable. Now security clearences and such are a bit mroe tricky but getting in its really no problem. I entered the USMC openly acknowledging a history of clinical depression including previous suicide attempts. In other words they won't stop you from getting in on thsoe grounds...now as to bisexuality that's a real tricky issue. the big thing is to know that if the guys at work know that you don't hang out with women outside of work its gonna be hellish so despite the "Don't ask don't tell" policy it might be real tricky.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

Well you should never have hopped over to this side of the pond if you didn't want to run into us

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Yup, everyday except for Thursday, that's when we let the Navy pukes come out.

Oh yes and for those who don't know (and can't read a sig)

USMCR 2000-present
Currently Lcpl (waiting for my damn MOS to open up for Cpl) in Bridge Co. Bravo 6th ESB.

Maternal Grandfather: 1stLt CDN Army, Canloan, blown up by a Moaning Minnie, survived to be put in a full body cast in England, 75% blind.

Paternal Grandfather: British Merchant Marine, sunk by the Cormorant, handed to the Japanese to go to PoW camp, spent 3.5 years in Japan, heard the Nagasaki bomb go off.

Maternal Great-Uncle: Royal Canadian Navy, served on corvette's in the North Atlantic and then Destroyers in the English Channel after D-Day, commanded HMCS Haida immeadiately after Korean war.

Maternal Great-Aunt: WRCNS, served at Blechley Park decoding the Enigma

Maternal Great-Aunt: WRCNS, based at the Washington, D.C. embassy, translating.

There's a few others, and I'm currently pondering on whether to join the military.

Ted wrote:
There's a few others, and I'm currently pondering on whether to join the military.

Sorry to hear about your Maternal Grandfather. Though hopefully it should point out to you there are very real consequences to joining up, too many young kids think they're invunerable and the reality can be very shocking when it hits. If you do decide to join up, then also decide how long you want to be serving and also what you might want to do when you leave. Look long and hard at all th Military branch options and research what will be expected of you in that service/speciality. More importantly Learn a trade even if you might not be able to use it in your civilian career. Get everything you can out of your service as they are asking you to be prepared to die in the execution of your duties, so it's only fair (you certainly won't get a decent wage from them so get every other benefit you can find).

Yeah, the pay is shit from what I can tell. 2ndLT in the CDN armed forces gets like $3,500 a month. Although you get shelter and food supplied.

I was thinking mainly of the Royal Navy, probably in the engineering section. Although the Arty does sound like a good place to join up too.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

Captain Lennox wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

Regimental Sergeant Major.

Captain Lennox wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

*Sputter, cough, choke*

It's the Regimental Sergeant Major, the highest NCO rank in the Army and the Man who really runs the Regiment as he controls the other Sergeants.

Having said that, you show excellent potential to be an Orifice - I mean Officer.

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: Surrounded by Marines and Officers, oh what did I ever do wrong?

The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

*Sputter, cough, choke*

It's the Regimental Sergeant Major, the highest NCO rank in the Army and the Man who really runs the Regiment as he controls the other Sergeants.

Having said that, you show excellent potential to be an Orifice - I mean Officer.

He's a yank, thats why.

Ted wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote: Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

*Sputter, cough, choke*

It's the Regimental Sergeant Major, the highest NCO rank in the Army and the Man who really runs the Regiment as he controls the other Sergeants.

Having said that, you show excellent potential to be an Orifice - I mean Officer.

He's a yank, thats why.

Thanks, Wilson. Anyway, we call ours a Sergeant Major and their is only one a company or regiment, they bear the Colors in Parades.

I wonder if this has been asked before, but is Rob Wilson in special forces?

Rob Wilson wrote:

Captain Lennox wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: The RSM warned me there'd be days like this.

Muwhaha, I have plans of joining the Joint Chiefs , nd become a Military dictator. And whats the RSM?*Feels embrrased*

*Sputter, cough, choke*

It's the Regimental Sergeant Major, the highest NCO rank in the Army and the Man who really runs the Regiment as he controls the other Sergeants.

Having said that, you show excellent potential to be an Orifice - I mean Officer.

For the record Rob there's always the Divisional Sargeant Major and, of course, if you're in the USMC there's the SgtMajor of the Marine Corps. 'Course that's for us Marines because even the Corps is larger than the whole damn British Army .

Evil Sadistic Bastard wrote:I wonder if this has been asked before, but is Rob Wilson in special forces?

Why yes I am, the Heavy Armour Brigade.

Captain Lennox wrote:I'm going too West Point once I leave High School. I have my appointment lined up, hopefully I'll acheive good enough too get into the Paratroopers. My Grandfather was in Germany from 48-50 and left 2 months before Korea joining the nation Guard. Had he went into the Rserves a quicker leave time he would of went too Korea. All my Grandfather's brothers were drafted into Korea. My Uncle was a Green Beret in the 5th SFG and went too Grenada, Bosina, and Afghanistan(Soviet iNvasion) and my cousin was a Marine Corps MP.

Congratulations! How did you get your appointment so soon? Usually around now you're only hearing about the Congressional nominations. Presidential or other appointment?

Anyway, good luck.

CmdrWilkens wrote:
For the record Rob there's always the Divisional Sargeant Major and, of course, if you're in the USMC there's the SgtMajor of the Marine Corps. 'Course that's for us Marines because even the Corps is larger than the whole damn British Army .

Quantity over quality. Mind you, with all those ships to guard you need a large Rent-a-cop force.

CmdrWilkens wrote:This is the problem with not seeing a thread...you're three pages late with information:

Anti-depressants will NOT make you unrecruitable, nor will a history of counseling so long as your doctor says you are stable. Now security clearences and such are a bit mroe tricky but getting in its really no problem. I entered the USMC openly acknowledging a history of clinical depression including previous suicide attempts. In other words they won't stop you from getting in on thsoe grounds...now as to bisexuality that's a real tricky issue. the big thing is to know that if the guys at work know that you don't hang out with women outside of work its gonna be hellish so despite the "Don't ask don't tell" policy it might be real tricky.

that's the thing, for me it cycles, sometimes i'm into guys, sometimes i'm into women. (no control over which way other than just ignore it, which i do...) i personally don't care how much gaybashing someone does at me (yes, it'll frustrate me slightly and depress the fuck out of me, but i can handle it.) and it's not something really visible with me, most people can't tell unless i tell them, granted many people just have a "feeling" about me but don't figure it out till they either read my sig on SB.com, here, or if i tell them...

anyway... i do fully intend to at least make a run at it with military service. i'm of the type who's either gonna go career or will hate it with an undying passion. (most likely i'd go career)

Sebastin wrote:On a side note.

Several posters mentioned that they enjoyed their time in germany a lot. Could you expand a bit on this? I´m just curious why.

For me it was *almost* a 2 year vacation in Europe. Yeah, it was military, but the time off I got to have while in another country was something I could not afford on my own.
Now Korea, on the other hand, was something I could live without.

j1j2j3 wrote:26 months of compulsory service in the ROK army.

Standard DMZ patrol duty, sniper duty.

Of course never got to shoot any humans, but lots and lots of deers and rabbits

Waking every morning to the blaring speakers of North Korean propeganda broadcasts wasn't my idea of paradise, and I was glad it was over.

Dude, I would agree with you on that. After getting a tour of the DMZ in U.S. Army class B's and seeing what those guys (and you) go through up there was not something I would find pleasant.

Rob Wilson wrote:

CmdrWilkens wrote:
For the record Rob there's always the Divisional Sargeant Major and, of course, if you're in the USMC there's the SgtMajor of the Marine Corps. 'Course that's for us Marines because even the Corps is larger than the whole damn British Army .

Quantity over quality. Mind you, with all those ships to guard you need a large Rent-a-cop force.

Don't forget floors to buff and brass to polish.

Tsyroc wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote:

CmdrWilkens wrote:
For the record Rob there's always the Divisional Sargeant Major and, of course, if you're in the USMC there's the SgtMajor of the Marine Corps. 'Course that's for us Marines because even the Corps is larger than the whole damn British Army .

Quantity over quality. Mind you, with all those ships to guard you need a large Rent-a-cop force.

Don't forget floors to buff and brass to polish.

New uniforms to design and model... it's a hard life as Naval policeman

Rob Wilson wrote:

Tsyroc wrote:

Rob Wilson wrote: Quantity over quality. Mind you, with all those ships to guard you need a large Rent-a-cop force.

Don't forget floors to buff and brass to polish.

New uniforms to design and model... it's a hard life as Naval policeman

The really lucky ones get to be the chauffers/body guards for the brass.