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Stark wrote:Revived with no health and a super-alarm. I don't really see the attraction.

It's spiffy in the last level. Let's just say I've never finished that one on Silent Assassin, shall we? =)

Eleas wrote:Let's just say I've never finished that one on Silent Assassin, shall we? =)

If 47 kills everyone in an area, and no one's left alive to say they heard him, did he make a sound?

No

Pretty sure anyway (once I did it, I got full violence and none noise).

Jaepheth wrote:If 47 kills everyone in an area, and no one's left alive to say they heard him, did he make a sound?

That is one of the imponderable mysteries of the universes, much like the sound of one double silverballer firing.

Dammit, the last level is pissing me off. I got the X360 version because I knew my PC couldn't handle it, and yet I'm finding that shooting all those people in the head in rapid succession with a controller is virtually impossible. Not to mention it makes you use the twin ballers, which I dislike, and where the hell are my upgrades? I didn't spend that money for nothing. Grr. I just can't "finish" the game. I assume there's a cutscene after the level's complete, anyone mind explaning what happens in it?

Got it yesterday- only up to the theatre level. It's fucking awesome. I really like the evolution of the graphics- a marked improvement over the previous three games, where the graphics were more similar.

Dammit, the last level is pissing me off. I got the X360 version because I knew my PC couldn't handle it, and yet I'm finding that shooting all those people in the head in rapid succession with a controller is virtually impossible. Not to mention it makes you use the twin ballers, which I dislike, and where the hell are my upgrades? I didn't spend that money for nothing. Grr. I just can't "finish" the game. I assume there's a cutscene after the level's complete, anyone mind explaning what happens in it?

PC it's easy

Basically you see Hitman leave the church/cemetery grounds, then it cuts to Diana telling "Your Majesty" that all the agency's resources were back up, but that they can't find "him". It then cuts to Hitman going to some strange Asian looking place- apparently (to me) looking for a new safehouse).

Anyway, I finished it too- was awesome. Loved the last level, though was frustrated like you were about the upgrades. If I had my automatic, extended mag long-slide ballers it would've been over in seconds.

One thing that's always bothered me about Hitman, you collect all these guns, but if you play properly you hardly EVER need to use them, except for the sniper rifle now and then!

Amendment XXV though the W2000 was invaluable. It wasn't even a fight at the end, I just sniped him one shot in the head on the roof.

Now that most of my shit is fully/almost fully upgraded I feel like going berserk in the levels just for fun. Rocking up at "A New Life" with my fully upgraded M4 in tow, waxing a legion of FBI agents .... hehehehe

I got SA for every mission. I love that.

You actually used the rifle? Poor, deluded Vympel. I just upgraded my ballers to have a scope, laser sight, etc and used it. Amendment XXV was the same for me, I just shot him in the head once and it was all over.

loomer wrote:You actually used the rifle? Poor, deluded Vympel. I just upgraded my ballers to have a scope, laser sight, etc and used it. Amendment XXV was the same for me, I just shot him in the head once and it was all over.

Yeah, but how'd you get the Silverballers in the White House? I had the W2000 in the padded bag, so they didn't pick it up on the metal detectors.

I never even brought my Silverballers- or any other custom weapon, with me in any mission, because I knew I would never need to actually shoot anyone. The only exception is the W2000 in the Casino mission (to shoot the Sheik from my balcony when he used the phone) and the White House because I thought it would be a good idea to shoot the Vice-President as he was walking his dog (I just ended up poisoning him and stuffing him in a box, after I had disguised myself as Secret Service)- but it came in handy when I saw that guy in the distance on the roof. Nice gun of his- not as good as my Silverballers though

Vympel wrote: Yeah, but how'd you get the Silverballers in the White House?

You can stash stuff into one of the other tourist's briefcase. When she puts the case through the x-ray machine she gets detained and they take the briefcase to the security station where you can retrieve your gun.

Also, I just dropped a mine where the Albino camps and detonated it when he fled up there.

EDIT: And the guns are really more like trophies.

Vympel wrote: Yeah, but how'd you get the Silverballers in the White House?

While Jaepheth's method is elegant, there's a simpler one. Just walk past the entrance and turn left at the wall, and you'll see a fence separating the inner courtyard from the museum courtyard. Now, withdraw your silverballers and chuck 'em over. A guard will see them sooner or later and retrieve them to place them in the weapons storage, where you can, with a bit of patience, easily retrieve them.

Hmmm. Interesting ... never thought of that. I might try doing the plant

Thanks, Vympel. I finally did finish it myself. I shot the first guy right as I was getting up, and then ducked behind a stone bench. As they came around the corner, it was headshots galore. Then I hunted the others down like dogs.

I think my favorite rampage so far was going crazy with the hedgecutters on A New Life. Everyone in the level got the business end of my blades. The newspaper headline was something like, "Insane Florist massacres 31!"

How I got my weapons (custom MP5 and Silverballer) into the White House:

I'd go past the entrance to the afore-mentioned fenced-off area. I'd put the guns in the Agency drop-off thing there, then go inside and through the metal detector. Then I go to the end of the hall where the Marine is standing guard, and go inside the bathroom to the left. I crouch in the corner with a sedative ready, and eventually a staff member comes in to take a leak. Close the door and take him down, take his uniform. Then I go back into the staff areas and out back into the north courtyard. A lone Marine patrols it, easy as pie to sedate him too. Drag him back into a corner, take his uniform (and sexy M14). Walk back out to the entrance, go to the drop-off, deposit the M14 there (it will register as having gotten it), and pick up my concealable guns. Then walk back through the metal detector and they won't do jack, plus you've got a uniform that will let you scour a lot of the White House with impunity.

Gerard_Paloma wrote:Thanks, Vympel. I finally did finish it myself. I shot the first guy right as I was getting up, and then ducked behind a stone bench. As they came around the corner, it was headshots galore. Then I hunted the others down like dogs.

I think my favorite rampage so far was going crazy with the hedgecutters on A New Life. Everyone in the level got the business end of my blades. The newspaper headline was something like, "Insane Florist massacres 31!"

I kinda felt bad for the reporter and priest. But no witnesses.

Brother-Captain Gaius wrote:How I got my weapons (custom MP5 and Silverballer) into the White House:

I'd go past the entrance to the afore-mentioned fenced-off area. I'd put the guns in the Agency drop-off thing there, then go inside and through the metal detector. Then I go to the end of the hall where the Marine is standing guard, and go inside the bathroom to the left. I crouch in the corner with a sedative ready, and eventually a staff member comes in to take a leak. Close the door and take him down, take his uniform. Then I go back into the staff areas and out back into the north courtyard. A lone Marine patrols it, easy as pie to sedate him too. Drag him back into a corner, take his uniform (and sexy M14). Walk back out to the entrance, go to the drop-off, deposit the M14 there (it will register as having gotten it), and pick up my concealable guns. Then walk back through the metal detector and they won't do jack, plus you've got a uniform that will let you scour a lot of the White House with impunity.

Nice.

My procedure was largely the same, minus the guns. Sedate the guy taking a leak, steal his clothes. Go to the security room, get the tape and the keycard. Go onto the roof, climb the scaffolding to get on the 2nd floor of the main building. Get down on the other side, sedate the secret service guy taking a smoke (much better looking and cooler). Leave my rifle case on the roof. Go downstairs, kill the Vice President with poison when he's alone, stuff his body in a box. Confront the assassin, chase him up to the roof, pull out my W2000, shoot him once in the head from range. Back to the bathroom, change back into my suit, out the front door for Silent Assassin

Anyone know where to get the damn Dragunov? The tutorial doesn't count to my knowledge, but I have every gun except that beautiful SVD - where the hell is it?

Brother-Captain Gaius wrote:Anyone know where to get the damn Dragunov?

On "Dance with the devil" there's a rifle case behind the desk with the laptop.

I got the FN-2000 in that level by nicking off with the CIA agent's case- apparently you can get it before "Dance with the Devil", but I know not where. Looks like I need to get the Dragunov next.

Vympel wrote:I got the FN-2000 in that level by nicking off with the CIA agent's case- apparently you can get it before "Dance with the Devil", but I know not where. Looks like I need to get the Dragunov next.

Death on the Mississippi. It's in a room somewhere along the ship, I couldn't say where, I just stumbled on it.

Vympel wrote: Yeah, but how'd you get the Silverballers in the White House? I had the W2000 in the padded bag, so they didn't pick it up on the metal detectors.

I took advantage of the AI by tossing them over the fence. Guards go and pick the gun up, I steal a marine's clothes, I go in, I get my gun back.

I've just reached the White House.

Got a few non-Silent Assassin rankings (mainly "The Ghost" - what can I say, I love the RU-AP mines, I use them ALL THE FUCKING TIME), so figuring out the Silent Assassins for those missions should be fun.

Question: I've never played any of the games in the series, but it's starting to look interesting to me (I love the Thief games, if it's a parallel, it wins). But what do you miss in story and such if you just jump in at the fourth title? Enough to warrant a search for the older titles, or can you jump in anywhere in the series without missing anything?

Lagmonster wrote:Question: I've never played any of the games in the series, but it's starting to look interesting to me (I love the Thief games, if it's a parallel, it wins). But what do you miss in story and such if you just jump in at the fourth title? Enough to warrant a search for the older titles, or can you jump in anywhere in the series without missing anything?

You can just jump in. The continuity is only general- you'll pick up some vague events- mainly the ending to the first game (they even reused a bit from the ending cutscene).

Hitman 2: Silent Assassin had an overarching plot, Hitman: Contracts, not so much, IIRC.

And there's nothing to stop you getting the originals in the bargain bin, of course. The game has gotten better and better in each installment- Blood Money is incredibly polished and well thought out- easily the best yet. Hitman 2 was slightly buggy and difficult (still very playable though, make no mistake, it's fun) and Contracts improved significantly upon it. The weakest game is Hitman, since it's very action orientated for a game when you play as an Assassin. The final level is practically a straight shooter. Though I still enjoyed it.

SPOILERS:

I fucking love the fact that ICA was run by the British with the monarchy overseeing it - I had my suspiscions since the original, what with the ICA logo and all..