Re: SDNWorld Redux: Story Thread the Fourth
Posted: 2009-08-10 04:27pm
"Global Issues", program on TPNN (Trans-Pacific News Network) out of Seattle
The host was a respectable looking older man with glasses and a nice suit, Roy Sumpter. The panel on his show consisted of Gene Keller University professor Charles Snyder, Cascadian Senator Ron Snow of Oregon, and the newly elected Yukon Assemblyman Lewis Buckner.
"....seriously, does anyone believe this? Heraclius, who mind you didn't have the best departure from the MESS, 'suddenly' remembers some old summit meeting where the MESS leaders talked about Sheppard being alive?"
"Well, he wasn't going to say anything before because who would've believed him?," Snyder retorted to Buckner. "But he has the former President Stanislav backing him now, he's got corroboration..."
"What corroboration? The word of a hardline Communist Head of State with every reason to stir trouble up to heighten the CATO-MESS divide and make CATO signatories more reliant upon the UCSR?"
Sumpter brought a hand up. "Excuse me, gentlemen, but there is the point that, while there are a few differences facially, the man called Rhee Anh Sheppard looks just like Mark Al-Sheppard."
"They were brothers," Buckner pointed out. "I used to get confused with my brother all the time!"
"I think the point here is that Stanislav, right or wrong, has gotten off a devastating first strike on the Old Dominion and the MESS as a whole," Snow pointed out. "And they laid the ground work for it, the Old Dominion did, through their obsessive secrecy in former Shepistan, through their... their general militaristic and aggressive attitudes toward the rest of the world, and the recruitment of former Shepistani officers. I mean, yeah, you could have some bomber pilot for Shepistan's old SAC that was in a bunk reading a book while the plague-bombs rained on Astaria, but the mere fact that he's a SAC officer makes him complicit in the eyes of the world. You... you can't split the two, the global image of the Shepistani Strategic Forces is that of being an organization of war criminals, and by permitting these pilots, these officers, to fly with the Old Dominion they have opened themselves to these charges."
"They were trying to reconcile with the Shepistani survivors and integrate them into the Dominion society," Buckner pointed out, "isn't that what everyone's been waiting for the Dominion to do? To get over the days of calling Shepistanis 'rock chuckers' and 'brownies' and accept becoming a multiracial society?"
"Or they were getting their hands on pilots and bomber crews who wouldn't flinch if the Old Dominion decided to drop plague-bombs of their own on someone," Snyder remarked.
"Oh, big shock coming from the Red Keller professor," ,Buckner guffawed. "Let's face it, for you people good ol' 'Comrade Stanislav' speaks and the Truth comes out."
"I resent that...."
Sumpter spoke up again. "So we know Professor Snyder thinks the charges are true and Assemblyman Buckner isn't convinced, what about you Senator?"
"They could be true. I mean, I don't know. Short of a way to do something conclusive like a DNA test we'll never know for sure," Snow pointed out. "I mean, Stanislav and Heraclius can charge all they want but the hard evidence isn't there. Documents can be forged, witnesses can be wrong unintentionally or intentionally through bribery and threats, I mean... there's no way for Stanislav to conclusively prove it, beyond a shadow of a doubt, without something like DNA evidence. Anything less and it becomes a simple charge, a really sensationalist one and something a lot of people will believe, but still just a charge and something that can be denied. After that the whole issue becomes more of a test of your loyalties. If you're CATO then Stanislav's right, if you're MESS he's not. And I think he knows this, so the big question is why?"
Sumpter shrugged. "Okay then... why?"
"Well, I can only say that he maybe wanted to put the MESS under a microscope, to put them on the diplomatic and political defensive," Snow postulated. "The MESS has usually been the one to instigate these crises with CATO having to react. Now CATO's given them a sucker punch and MESS is reeling."
"Which is exactly what Stanislav wants for another reason," Buckner added. "If the attempts at CATO-MESS reconciliation fail - which they probably will now - then CATO is looking at a Cold War against a superior opponent and the outer CATO nations will be more and more reliant upon the UCSR. This is what Stanislav's purpose is, to wreck any hope of a real peace and make sure that the countries in CATO are totally reliant on the UCSR, to revive the glory days of the past when the Crimsons were going everywhere. And, please, who really expects the UCSR to refrain from subtle nudgings here and there to make their allies more ideologically acceptable? I give it a half century before we're talking about the re-dedication of San Dorado's Tower of Commerce into the Tower of Socialist Prosperity when the NFT becomes the Peoples' Republic of North Frequesue," Buckner scoffed.
"Oh come on, that is preposterous," Snyder retorted. "What is this, 1980? Are you on Lewis Ruckner Live ranting about the Communist menace? It's 2018 for Christ's sake..."
"I think the million or so Misterians who were trying to flee their homeland's glorious new socialist republic might disagree...."
Sumpter cleared his throat and broke in. "Senator Snow, your thoughts?"
"Well, I think Assemblyman Buckner may have a point, it does ultimately benefit the UCSR in many ways if this 'Cold War' continues and the CATO nations become more reliant upon them. MESS is very much an alliance of roughly equal states power wise while CATO is centered around the UCSR and a perceived threat from them would undermine latent anti-Communist movements in places like San Dorado and PeZookia that might otherwise threaten CATO's unity. On the other hand, I'm not sure if Stanislav understands the dangers of what he's done. CATO is the inferior alliance and while this may have been a bid to get more nations to sign on with them, if it backfires... I mean, if it doesn't result in a situation where the MESS has been completely isolationed... it could leave the world polarized, the two alliances unwilling to make any peace overtures, and CATO still in a badly inferior position economically and militarily...."
The host was a respectable looking older man with glasses and a nice suit, Roy Sumpter. The panel on his show consisted of Gene Keller University professor Charles Snyder, Cascadian Senator Ron Snow of Oregon, and the newly elected Yukon Assemblyman Lewis Buckner.
"....seriously, does anyone believe this? Heraclius, who mind you didn't have the best departure from the MESS, 'suddenly' remembers some old summit meeting where the MESS leaders talked about Sheppard being alive?"
"Well, he wasn't going to say anything before because who would've believed him?," Snyder retorted to Buckner. "But he has the former President Stanislav backing him now, he's got corroboration..."
"What corroboration? The word of a hardline Communist Head of State with every reason to stir trouble up to heighten the CATO-MESS divide and make CATO signatories more reliant upon the UCSR?"
Sumpter brought a hand up. "Excuse me, gentlemen, but there is the point that, while there are a few differences facially, the man called Rhee Anh Sheppard looks just like Mark Al-Sheppard."
"They were brothers," Buckner pointed out. "I used to get confused with my brother all the time!"
"I think the point here is that Stanislav, right or wrong, has gotten off a devastating first strike on the Old Dominion and the MESS as a whole," Snow pointed out. "And they laid the ground work for it, the Old Dominion did, through their obsessive secrecy in former Shepistan, through their... their general militaristic and aggressive attitudes toward the rest of the world, and the recruitment of former Shepistani officers. I mean, yeah, you could have some bomber pilot for Shepistan's old SAC that was in a bunk reading a book while the plague-bombs rained on Astaria, but the mere fact that he's a SAC officer makes him complicit in the eyes of the world. You... you can't split the two, the global image of the Shepistani Strategic Forces is that of being an organization of war criminals, and by permitting these pilots, these officers, to fly with the Old Dominion they have opened themselves to these charges."
"They were trying to reconcile with the Shepistani survivors and integrate them into the Dominion society," Buckner pointed out, "isn't that what everyone's been waiting for the Dominion to do? To get over the days of calling Shepistanis 'rock chuckers' and 'brownies' and accept becoming a multiracial society?"
"Or they were getting their hands on pilots and bomber crews who wouldn't flinch if the Old Dominion decided to drop plague-bombs of their own on someone," Snyder remarked.
"Oh, big shock coming from the Red Keller professor," ,Buckner guffawed. "Let's face it, for you people good ol' 'Comrade Stanislav' speaks and the Truth comes out."
"I resent that...."
Sumpter spoke up again. "So we know Professor Snyder thinks the charges are true and Assemblyman Buckner isn't convinced, what about you Senator?"
"They could be true. I mean, I don't know. Short of a way to do something conclusive like a DNA test we'll never know for sure," Snow pointed out. "I mean, Stanislav and Heraclius can charge all they want but the hard evidence isn't there. Documents can be forged, witnesses can be wrong unintentionally or intentionally through bribery and threats, I mean... there's no way for Stanislav to conclusively prove it, beyond a shadow of a doubt, without something like DNA evidence. Anything less and it becomes a simple charge, a really sensationalist one and something a lot of people will believe, but still just a charge and something that can be denied. After that the whole issue becomes more of a test of your loyalties. If you're CATO then Stanislav's right, if you're MESS he's not. And I think he knows this, so the big question is why?"
Sumpter shrugged. "Okay then... why?"
"Well, I can only say that he maybe wanted to put the MESS under a microscope, to put them on the diplomatic and political defensive," Snow postulated. "The MESS has usually been the one to instigate these crises with CATO having to react. Now CATO's given them a sucker punch and MESS is reeling."
"Which is exactly what Stanislav wants for another reason," Buckner added. "If the attempts at CATO-MESS reconciliation fail - which they probably will now - then CATO is looking at a Cold War against a superior opponent and the outer CATO nations will be more and more reliant upon the UCSR. This is what Stanislav's purpose is, to wreck any hope of a real peace and make sure that the countries in CATO are totally reliant on the UCSR, to revive the glory days of the past when the Crimsons were going everywhere. And, please, who really expects the UCSR to refrain from subtle nudgings here and there to make their allies more ideologically acceptable? I give it a half century before we're talking about the re-dedication of San Dorado's Tower of Commerce into the Tower of Socialist Prosperity when the NFT becomes the Peoples' Republic of North Frequesue," Buckner scoffed.
"Oh come on, that is preposterous," Snyder retorted. "What is this, 1980? Are you on Lewis Ruckner Live ranting about the Communist menace? It's 2018 for Christ's sake..."
"I think the million or so Misterians who were trying to flee their homeland's glorious new socialist republic might disagree...."
Sumpter cleared his throat and broke in. "Senator Snow, your thoughts?"
"Well, I think Assemblyman Buckner may have a point, it does ultimately benefit the UCSR in many ways if this 'Cold War' continues and the CATO nations become more reliant upon them. MESS is very much an alliance of roughly equal states power wise while CATO is centered around the UCSR and a perceived threat from them would undermine latent anti-Communist movements in places like San Dorado and PeZookia that might otherwise threaten CATO's unity. On the other hand, I'm not sure if Stanislav understands the dangers of what he's done. CATO is the inferior alliance and while this may have been a bid to get more nations to sign on with them, if it backfires... I mean, if it doesn't result in a situation where the MESS has been completely isolationed... it could leave the world polarized, the two alliances unwilling to make any peace overtures, and CATO still in a badly inferior position economically and militarily...."