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Hey Phong, I'm MESS now, what are the available techs for SAMs I can purchase?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Hey Phong, I'm MESS now, what are the available techs for SAMs I can purchase?

We sell everything to anyone - light SAMs, heavy SAMs, giant ABMs, all the systems integrations needed, radars, etc. The IRT is also about to start development on MEADS (probably with Tian Xia) as our mobile heavy SAM.

phongn wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Hey Phong, I'm MESS now, what are the available techs for SAMs I can purchase?

We sell everything to anyone - light SAMs, heavy SAMs, giant ABMs, all the systems integrations needed, radars, etc. The IRT is also about to start development on MEADS (probably with Tian Xia) as our mobile heavy SAM.

I currently have S-300s in operation, and S-400s coming up. What would you recommend that would be a vital addition to my forces against Mass bombing offensives, ballistic missiles and low observables? Also, I would be also keen to see what you would recommend for better system integration.

How does the MEADs also compare against the S-400?

Shroom Man 777 wrote:If anyone has screencaps of those Sector Seven agents in their underwear in the Transformers movie, please give them to me.

It will be for my next post

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Well... this is probably gonna come out worse than Prince Harry the Nazi, isn't it?

Well, you could have scored the British race-car magnate market....

Ramsley backs down... and rears up! CRUSADE AGAINST THE SHEPNUKISTANI AND SADDAMISTANI HEATHENS! RARGH! SPARTA!

Come my battle brothers! Purge the unclean!!!

Ah good. I will make the necessary posts then.

And so, we seal up the Ramsley problem (unless that impertinent priest crosses us again).

He has seen the light. I expect that in the days prior, he was in sackcloth and prostrating himself to God or something. He has gone to utter nutbar extremes now, I think.

He has been touched by the Lord. He will be an Moses

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Seriously, who was it that authorized the arms shipment? No one was RPing Ramsley then. I suspect that his 'brothers in arms' crossed him behind his back.

He is a fruity religious leader. Perhaps the more secular militarists got tired of his preaching.

Question when did Neverhood have a living King? The only reason Zor OK'd it way back when at it's current size was because DEATH wanted a country but not a shitty small one because of his title.

So after some head-scratching we decided that the Neverhood would be Tsardom Level but DEATH could not do anything with it, and like Liberaltopia would produce only crisis. So DEATH kicking off a civil war fits in there, but DEATH can't rule it so Coyote if your talking to his King you must be using a medium.

For it to make sense It should be "Rebel Leader" rather than King(Since Death is dead.)

Shroom Man 777 wrote:He has seen the light. I expect that in the days prior, he was in sackcloth and prostrating himself to God or something. He has gone to utter nutbar extremes now, I think.

He has been touched by the Lord. He will be an Moses

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Seriously, who was it that authorized the arms shipment? No one was RPing Ramsley then. I suspect that his 'brothers in arms' crossed him behind his back.

He is a fruity religious leader. Perhaps the more secular militarists got tired of his preaching.

Well, if he needs aid in terms of military, we will provide.

Neverhood is NOT Tsardom level. DAETH has a CT-post. That means his country is an oversized shithole. As per Zor's rules.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Neverhood is NOT Tsardom level. DAETH has a CT-post. That means his country is an oversized shithole. As per Zor's rules.

See my post, it's Tsardom size is what I ment, but it produces nothing useful. He has no heavy industry, nothing useful, no real military or anything of that size.

Just because Greenland is big does not make it a shit hole. Same thing with the Neverhood

It's more of a giant Norway then an Afghanstain.

Size wise, on the map, Neverhood's huge. And as for who I'm talking to? Well, whoever is their head of state now. Or, whoever has enough pull to claim that title and largely be accepted with it.

That's kind of something we've been loose with here-- obviously Sea Skimmer is not "Saddam the Great" but while some of us are RP'ing ourselves with minor modifications, some of us are also RP'ing completely unrelated people, it seems.

Oh. Size can mean a lot of things... but... HAHA! DAETH!

Goddamn. Neverhood is gonna turn into a massive shithole. Like, a giant ghetto-nation! That's also a nuclear testground.

No wonder those Jews are fleeing to the FUN. I hope the Shroomanians welcome them and don't, like, put them in ovens or anything.

Coyote wrote:Size wise, on the map, Neverhood's huge. And as for who I'm talking to? Well, whoever is their head of state now. Or, whoever has enough pull to claim that title and largely be accepted with it.

That's kind of something we've been loose with here-- obviously Sea Skimmer is not "Saddam the Great" but while some of us are RP'ing ourselves with minor modifications, some of us are also RP'ing completely unrelated people, it seems.

Well, as soon as someone from the Mess steps up to rule my country above me then it'll be back to operating as it did until now, without the -75% leadership bonus .

OAN: Let me repeat this again, the UKB Has no nuclear weapons at all period. I'm even willing to allow International Inspectors into my countries three Nuclear plants to demonstrate that(By Fiat I Declare my Country is powered by a mixture of three medium size Nuclear plants outside my majors cities, Hydroelectric and Coal)

I've never wanted nukes, I don't use Nukes and when Sheppard offered I told him to give them as a birthday gift to someone else. I don't have anything in my country you could call a WMD at all.

I am however building as many ABM systems as I can create, and unlike every other country in the world I have conducted four seperate ABM tests so far to test the SM-2, the SM-3, preproduction S-400's and Sheppard ABM missile type once I get ahold of a battery of them.

In fact one of the reasons for dropping the ships is to free up more budget for ABM tests.

*wikis S-400*

Goddamn! I need that missile! It's better than the Patriots, which the Airbeards are based on!

With a range of 400km (250 miles)... that's more than enough to defend our nations! We need that weapon, stat!

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:I currently have S-300s in operation, and S-400s coming up. What would you recommend that would be a vital addition to my forces against Mass bombing offensives, ballistic missiles and low observables? Also, I would be also keen to see what you would recommend for better system integration.

How does the MEADs also compare against the S-400?

It's a lot less missile; the two are entirely different classes of SAM. Also, be aware that even one S-400 battery costs a fortune.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:With a range of 400km (250 miles)... that's more than enough to defend our nations! We need that weapon, stat!

Is it?

Mr Bean wrote:I am however building as many ABM systems as I can create, and unlike every other country in the world I have conducted four seperate ABM tests so far to test the SM-2, the SM-3, preproduction S-400's and Sheppard ABM missile type once I get ahold of a battery of them.

The hell you're the only one who's tested ABMs.

In fact one of the reasons for dropping the ships is to free up more budget for ABM tests.

ABM tests aren't that expensive to conduct.

phongn wrote:

Shroom Man 777 wrote:With a range of 400km (250 miles)... that's more than enough to defend our nations! We need that weapon, stat!

Is it?

Not really. But it provides HUEG coverage. Like, a handful of them could defend the Shroomanian mainland!

S-300 and S-400 derived systems can be built, but so far I have a small facility that makes them in small numbers; and had supplied to small nations

We'd have to ramp up production if we really need it there and then.

Also, I'm kinda entangled in work, family and other stuff here, as well as wedding plans, so I might be short on time.

Cut me some slack

EDIT: Ah, very good. I feel elated. Ramsley has been brought back to the UOC heel, and it's best for him and his nation to stay that way.

If you license them to other FUN corporations, we can start popping them like toadstools!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:If you license them to other FUN corporations, we can start popping them like toadstools!

Buy my awesome missiles. If not, contract with my insanely awesome systems integrations peoples.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Not really. But it provides HUEG coverage. Like, a handful of them could defend the Shroomanian mainland!

Think carefully on what "range" means.

phongn wrote:It's a lot less missile; the two are entirely different classes of SAM. Also, be aware that even one S-400 battery costs a fortune.

Is the THAAD more comparable to the S-400 or S-300?

Would the MEADS be a good complement to the S-300/S-400?

The issue for me is to defeat an attack by Shep's airforce.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Is the THAAD more comparable to the S-400 or S-300?

Neither. THAAD is a dedicated ABM.

Would the MEADS be a good complement to the S-300/S-400?

Not really, since S-300 has smaller missile quadpacks for shorter-range work.

The issue for me is to defeat an attack by Shep's airforce.

Spend lots and lots of money. You also need to integrate your air force for the air-defense role. Consider how Shep will attack you (might need to read up on SAC tactics and the AMSA program)

phongn wrote:Neither. THAAD is a dedicated ABM.

Okay, how much is the unit price for those things? I take it you have ASAT missiles as well?

Not really, since S-300 has smaller missile quadpacks for shorter-range work.

So stick with the S-300 and not get the MEADS? And build up some S-400s?

Spend lots and lots of money. You also need to integrate your air force for the air-defense role. Consider how Shep will attack you (might need to read up on SAC tactics and the AMSA program)

Okay. Any links for that? Can I get help on linking my Phalcons to the air defence network (together with my AEGIS equipped destroyers)?

Goddamn I hate this stuff. I'm illiterate next to you military masters, meaning I have an extreme disadvantage. I hope Stas is knowledgeable enough in these matters to help me out...

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Can I have a list of the world leaders and their names? I'm having a hard time... uhh... yeah.