Re: Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens
Posted: 2015-09-04 09:09pm
Could "Finalizer" be the Star Destroyer's class name rather than ship name?
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Prune face will forever be Prune Face!! :pRogueIce wrote:They're toys. I'd be wary of reading too much into any of it. For a long time the Lamda shuttles were known as "Tyderium shuttles" because that's what the one in RotJ was called. And I wouldn't read too much into the SD having the one name or that shuttle being "Kylo's shuttle" any more than every X-wing belonging to Luke Skywalker because "Luke's X-wing" was undoubtedly a thing in various toylines.
The SD.net databank has traditionally been absolute crap. They are after all the source for the 12.8 km Executor as a compromise between 19 km and 8 km.Mange wrote:There are now Databank entries over at SW.com covering The Force Awakens that could shed light on this: [url=htttp://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-s ... -finalizer]StarWars.com Databank Finalizer[/url]
You mean the SW.com databank!Adamskywalker007 wrote:The SD.net databank has traditionally been absolute crap. They are after all the source for the 12.8 km Executor as a compromise between 19 km and 8 km.Mange wrote:There are now Databank entries over at SW.com covering The Force Awakens that could shed light on this: [url=htttp://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-s ... -finalizer]StarWars.com Databank Finalizer[/url]
But as far as background fluff goes, they'd be pretty spot on. Maybe wrong on technical details 95% of Star Wars fans don't give a crap about, but as far as what the ship is and its place in the galaxy? I'd say the SW Databank knows what it's talking about.Adamskywalker007 wrote:The SD.net databank has traditionally been absolute crap. They are after all the source for the 12.8 km Executor as a compromise between 19 km and 8 km.Mange wrote:There are now Databank entries over at SW.com covering The Force Awakens that could shed light on this: [url=htttp://www.starwars.com/databank/first-order-s ... -finalizer]StarWars.com Databank Finalizer[/url]
Given that Disney owns both Marvel and Star Wars and that having something after or during the credits is virtually a Marvel trademark, this makes some sense.There are reports that the end of “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” will provide a teaser to “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.” While including a post-credits video is not the usual style of the franchise, “Episode VII" could feature something as big as a trailer this time. [Spoiler alert!]
Screen Rant reports that “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” directed by Gareth Edwards, is still in the middle of principal photography. Disney Pictures reportedly has more plans for the $4 billion they invested into Lucasfilm, aside from launching a sequel trilogy. Stand-alone projects called “Star Wars Stories” are also set to be made, which will focus on various stories other than the main plot.
There are talks that “Star Wars: Episode 7” will have a teaser after the credits are presented at the end of the movie, based on a report by Schmoes Know. Specifically, it will be about “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.” The film’s producers have yet to confirm whether this is true.
It should be noted that such changes would be different from how the first six movies were marketed and made. Considering how other film franchises have provided post-credits teasers with good results, the “Star Wars” franchise may have decided to use the same effective approach.
Teasers after the credits generally offer a hint of what’s to come in the next instalment, according to Cinema Blend Some fans expect that they might find some details about “Episode VIII” at the end of “The Force Awakens.” However, “Rogue One” is set in the past, between the events of “Revenge of the Sith” and “A New Hope.” The story focuses on agents of the Rebellion stealing the plans of the first Death Star. The teaser, if real, may either present an official trailer or a clip from “Rogue One.”
Paramount and Lucasfilm recently agreed for the latter to suspend its “Rogue One” marketing efforts because of title similarities with the former’s “Mission: Impossible - Rogue Nation,” which was released on July 31.
“Rogue One” will launch on Dec. 16 while “Star Wars: The Force Awakens” will be released on Dec. 18.
In the meantime, “Star Wars” fans should take the recent news with a grain of salt until an official confirmation from Lucasfilm is out. More news and updates on the upcoming movies are expected in the coming weeks.
SpoilerLagmonster wrote:Bear in mind that a character returning isn't a sign that that character doesn't die, given the existence of Force Ghosts and flashbacks.
I don't like the idea of Leia being a general , she had shown previously no military leadership skills, or that Han/Chewie just leaving everything to go crime fighting like Shaggy and Scooby Do!IO9 has a new outline of post-ROTJ events. Not sure how accuate this is:
http://io9.com/everything-we-know-about ... 1729549100
Leia did have an obvious rank on Hoth, but she seems to have given it up by Endor in that she serves under Han. Though Han should have stayed a general, he could have even leveraged it into a political career postwar and he and Leia could have been a political power couple.Darth Tanner wrote:
I don't like the idea of Leia being a general , she had shown previously no military leadership skills, or that Han/Chewie just leaving everything to go crime fighting like Shaggy and Scooby Do!
You could rationalize it as the fact that the Empire was undermiliterized relative to the planets under them. It would explain why they were so desperate to build a second Death Star.Its pretty minimalist that after a year of defections and minor engagements the Alliance and Empire can only amass fleets smaller than at Endor for a major offensive and Ackbar is pretty much the only military force in the galaxy! It makes even less sense they for some reason choose an irrelevant planet to attack and wipe each other out over. Also unless the Imperial infighting destroyed them all or they all defected the Empire only had two executors when there were a lot of command ships at the time of Endor?
Again, if the planets already had strong militaries, it would make sense that the federal government might not have as much of one. They might use a militia system similar to what the US did up until the 20th century.The New Republic seems just as incompetently lead as in the previous EU deciding to retire 90% of its armed forces whilst still fighting a galactic war... at least planetary armies are a thing, its not like dissolving your ability to respond to a Galactic Empire will lead you to be engaged and destroyed piecemeal.
That doesn't make much sense anyway one looks at it.Also why on earth would the Republic accept a peace treaty when worlds are still being enslaved and yet the military ability of the Empire to fight has been wiped out?
Sadly I suspect this might just be the case. Especially with the obvious Kylo Ren -> Knights of Ren crap. SpoilerAlso the 'wellspring of the darkside' seems like a crappy fantasy McGuffin! Five internet dollars the big bad will be fought to the death over it in episode 9 ending the dark side forever!
That is what she did for the Rebel Alliance, she never had any given rank beyond Princess. Why would she suddenly need a new title to keep doing the same job? Though I suppose that could be part of the process of legitimizing the military.Typhonis 1 wrote:Or her rank is beureacratic in nature. Think about it, you still need people to procure supplies and support for the operations. Someone to ensure the troops at the front have what they need to do the job. Recruiting, supply, survivor of Alderaan. She could be a rallying point. She was a senator and some of the work a general does IS political. However that's my two cents, I could be completely worng.
I'm wondering if that might be the case. There has to be some reason that they are concealing her parentage in promotional material. Though it still seems odd that they cast an actress who looks like am awful lot like Carrie Fisher.Typhonis 1 wrote:Heck for all we know the girl , whom is force sensitive, could be Luke's daughter.
This could be justified by interpreting the "ability of the Empire to fight" specifically refers to the fact that they aren't able to launch major offensive operations (as both a combination of battle losses and the subsequent defection of various units, either to the New Republic or Moffs declaring personal fiefdoms), but have enough reserve/regional/assorted forces left to mount a successful defense. This interpretation is supported by statements in the linked article, which describes the fact that various imperial governors essentially used their forces to fortify their own territories instead of forming battle fleets.Darth Tanner wrote: Its pretty minimalist that after a year of defections and minor engagements the Alliance and Empire can only amass fleets smaller than at Endor for a major offensive and Ackbar is pretty much the only military force in the galaxy! It makes even less sense they for some reason choose an irrelevant planet to attack and wipe each other out over. Also unless the Imperial infighting destroyed them all or they all defected the Empire only had two executors when there were a lot of command ships at the time of Endor?
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Also why on earth would the Republic accept a peace treaty when worlds are still being enslaved and yet the military ability of the Empire to fight has been wiped out?
The article makes it clear (at least to me), that Mon Mothma's decision in effect outsourced the military forces of the New Republic to its various members/client states. That's a little different than an outright demilitarization. While certainly not the wisest move given the circumstances, there is an inherent political logic to it. One might imagine that many powers would only decide to switch sides and join the Alliance conditional on them maintaining their autonomy.The New Republic seems just as incompetently lead as in the previous EU deciding to retire 90% of its armed forces whilst still fighting a galactic war... at least planetary armies are a thing, its not like dissolving your ability to respond to a Galactic Empire will lead you to be engaged and destroyed piecemeal.