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Simon_Jester wrote:Once again, we learn why the Empress has marshals and admirals to take care of this sort of thing for her...

Of course, everything worked out for Haruhi in the end, but only because she had a VERY CAPABLE admiral under her command. Watch until 3:28 or so.

Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:

Simon_Jester wrote:Once again, we learn why the Empress has marshals and admirals to take care of this sort of thing for her...

Of course, everything worked out for Haruhi in the end, but only because she had a VERY CAPABLE admiral under her command. Watch until 3:28 or so.

I've seen the whole clip repeatedly.

And yeah, precisely my point.

EDIT CLARIFICATION:

Sorry, I thought this was the same clip. I've never seen that part of the episode before, but I'd more or less worked out what would happen from the other clip- predicting that Nagato would guarantee a victory, even though I didn't know about the cheat/countercheat aspect.

I just finished watching the first season of that show and started on the second. Suddenly everything makes so much more sense.

The sad thing is that Haruhi is better than the average Legend of Galactic Heroes admiral she's a parody of. Most of LoGH's no-names seem to be more around Mikuru's level of command capability.

How so? I'm not familiar with either series.

Haruhi is utterly reckless but at least has some degree of ability to inspire others.

In Legend of Galactic Heroes, the standard of competence for most admirals on both sides is low- upper-class aristocratic twits versus political hacks. There are a double handful of 'named' exceptions to that rule divided among each side, the minor to somewhat-major characters. And each side has one really good admiral (both of whom I stole for Zebes, Reinhard and Yang), whose basic job was to make everyone else on the other side look like a bunch of chumps.

For which it helped that with that relative handful of exceptions, everyone else on the other side was a bunch of chumps.

That means Zebes was pretty much the opposite of LOGH. Since the only one incompetent there was Muckenburger, the other guise, coalition and Boskone alike, were all pretty good. Except for those Centralist Ion Canoneers. But hey, Strakanoff.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:That means Zebes was pretty much the opposite of LOGH. Since the only one incompetent there was Muckenburger, the other guise, coalition and Boskone alike, were all pretty good. Except for those Centralist Ion Canoneers. But hey, Strakanoff.

The Centralist Ion Cannoneers were trying, but they were badly out of their depth in that they were pressured to build too much too quickly. When you get engineers working on something like that, it's inevitable that standards slip and wishful thinking creeps in. But in any case, I dislike deliberately making complete morons out of half my cast to make the other half look good, so I tried to limit myself to one conspicuous idiot, and at least give him a few good moments.

Also...

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[Just posting this here for later reference, everyone, for my own purposes as much as anyone else's]

Umerian Contingent, Shinra-Human Interstellar Task force of Space:

Eighth Dreadnought Division,, (Adm. Wenli Yang)
2 400-pt Titan-class dreadnoughts:
USS Hyperion
USS Phoebe

1 150-pt fleet carrier:
USS Guardian*

Screen formation (R. Adm. Benjamin Dover**)

2 60-pt light cruisers:
USS Hiawatha
USS Arjuna

6 40-pt destroyers
...
USS Walter Bishop***

4 20-pt cutter tenders
...

Total: 1390 points

Second Intervention Task Force, (V. Adm. Valentine)
2 100-pt heavy cruisers:
USS Samuel Jacobson****
USS Barnabas Hening*****

4 80-pt strike cruisers
USS Jagga
...

Screen formation (R. Adm. Dustin Attenborough)
2 60-pt light cruisers
USS Odysseus
USS Nefertiti

6 40-pt destroyers
...

8 20-pt cutter tenders
...

____________

Total: 1390 + 960 = 2350 points space combat capability

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Ground Contingent

13th Strike Corps (Mj. Gen. April Schild)******
(based off ITF 2's strike cruisers)
~80000 men at 2000/$ -> 40 points

18th Intervention Army Group (Lt. Marshal Quang Xuan Pham)
(Fifty division-equivalent formations plus supports, based off unarmed or nearly unarmed troopships)
~2000000 men at 25000/$ -> 80 points

Total: 120 points ground combat capability

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*Older carrier design, pre-Aviary, basestar hullform.
**Shroomanian-Umerian ancestry
***Du Chatelet-class destroyer, named for 21st century San Doradan cybernetics pioneer.
****Yes, same one that got shot up at Zebes.
*****Pezookian commander in the Gaymean War, famous for massed use of 'Napoleonic' artillery at the Siege of Morski Zamek
******Strike Mechanized background

Love the Walter Bishop nod, Simon .

As a mostly-irrelevant heads-up, I'll be off to Pezookia Poland on Thursday and as a consequence will in all likelihood be absent 'till Tuesday. Since we all know the Internet does not exist in Pezookia Poland!

Holy shit he's coming oh no oh no what shall I do?!

Okay, so Wolf 359 is done. It is, admittedly, more of an overview or summary kind of story, rather than anything hugely detailed. But with seven nations in total, well, I wasn't going to go micro-analyze everybody's stuff to write detailed depictions.

There will be a "post-mortem" or "results" posted alongside, detailing losses from both sides of the battle. If, after I post mine, you want to write a something from your nation's perspective, feel free. Just keep in mind the overall effort of the battle, the losses we post, and please don't kill somebody else's stuff without talking it over with them, even if it is consistent with the published loss chart.

I may also make a simple graphic of where each nation's 'group' happened to be, for the sake of consistency.

Anyway, it'll go up Thursday, for the sake of Shroom and Klavo who still have some pre-Wolf stuff they want to do. Likely in the morning, Eastern US time. It's already sitting as a draft, so it's just a matter of a couple clicks for me to post it up.

Alright, Team Limitless Rage. Operation Preempt Rogue is a go. You may begin posting now.

Wait. Rogue. Klavo added some stuff in the Google Doc yesterday/earlier today. Did you finish Wolf 359 in the Google Doc or somewhere else or is the Google Doc a draft that won't be used?

Siege wrote:Love the Walter Bishop nod, Simon .

I owed you one, since I blew up USS San Dorado at Zebes.

I do try to use a reasonable admixture of Nova Terran material, to reflect that when it comes to motherworlds, Umeria has two mommies.

RogueIce wrote:I may also make a simple graphic of where each nation's 'group' happened to be, for the sake of consistency.

Anyway, it'll go up Thursday, for the sake of Shroom and Klavo who still have some pre-Wolf stuff they want to do. Likely in the morning, Eastern US time. It's already sitting as a draft, so it's just a matter of a couple clicks for me to post it up.

I'll look it over tonight or tomorrow.

Simon_Jester wrote:I'll look it over tonight or tomorrow.

Okay.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:Wait. Rogue. Klavo added some stuff in the Google Doc yesterday/earlier today. Did you finish Wolf 359 in the Google Doc or somewhere else or is the Google Doc a draft that won't be used?

Only after I wrote everything did I see that, and to answer your question I finished it in the Word file I was using off GD.

I did read it, and it's good, but I think it wouldn't work as well for my general overview style of how I wrote things. More as part of a "Klavoite Perspective" piece, I'd think. I was being fairly broad and all.

Part of it does lead me into something that likely should be addressed (not a big deal or anything, more a matter of style, for lack of a better word), but I'll deal with that later, either if I catch you guys in the chat or through PM if I don't.

You are, however, obligated to use my choice of music.

RogueIce wrote:Okay, so Wolf 359 is done. It is, admittedly, more of an overview or summary kind of story, rather than anything hugely detailed. But with seven nations in total, well, I wasn't going to go micro-analyze everybody's stuff to write detailed depictions.

There will be a "post-mortem" or "results" posted alongside, detailing losses from both sides of the battle. If, after I post mine, you want to write a something from your nation's perspective, feel free. Just keep in mind the overall effort of the battle, the losses we post, and please don't kill somebody else's stuff without talking it over with them, even if it is consistent with the published loss chart.

I may also make a simple graphic of where each nation's 'group' happened to be, for the sake of consistency.

Anyway, it'll go up Thursday, for the sake of Shroom and Klavo who still have some pre-Wolf stuff they want to do. Likely in the morning, Eastern US time. It's already sitting as a draft, so it's just a matter of a couple clicks for me to post it up.

Can I see the doc?

And so it begins...

For those who wonder: I'm not dead yet, though you'd be forgiven for thinking otherwise.

Senior year and a job rather heavily interfered with my online activities, to say the least, and this was one of the first things I had to drop. I deeply apologize for never officially announcing such was the case. It wasn't really a conscious decision on my part - things just piled up, and the STGOD slipped from my mind.

I've taken long hiatuses from STGODs before, to my great personal dissatisfaction, so I'm going to try my damnedest to at least remain current on this one, after I catch up on all that I've missed (any brief summaries you guys can provide would be very much appreciated ). Still, I'm heading off to Berkeley in late August, so my participation will probably drop off significantly sometime around then.

For what it's worth though, you can consider the Pfhor to be back in the game.

Heh. As Quadroptolemus the arch-farmer described you...

"ferocious barbalien empires whose three-eyed, glaring overlords are so fierce and uncommunicative that none may say what transpires within their borders"

Cools. So Pollux, shall we go ahead with Bragulan-Pfhor inter negotiationing?

The Pfhor have finally returned?

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Excellent.

Enjoy it.

The post-mortem/results will follow soon-ish.

Er, I don't get it Shroomy