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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:

Mr Bean wrote:On another note. GPS satellites done, Weather satellites done, Photo-satellites done. Radar imaging satellites TBA, Shroomian communication satellites in process.

Any other satellite types we need in orbit?

Space telescopes will be nice.

I don't have an optics industry, that's all coming from the Republic of Vulpesia which is also the folks who built the four photo-sats I currently have in orbit thanks to the Zalbania crisis. They are currently building more of them last I checked, other than that a Hubble would have to come from some-one else.

Speaking of Hubble that took a year and a half to design, four years to build, and it was fucked up when in orbit, meaning they would have to redesign the whole thing. Or do what they did and correct it via a band-aid fix, the Hubble is about a half as powerful as it should have been because the mirror was off by a 1/50th of an inch apparently.

And then there's the James Webb Space Telescope which is due to go up in 2013 which took five years to build and design. Space telescopes are not something you can build in someone's shop and toss up-there. They require gigantic focusing mirrors and specialized isolation system's unlike Photo-satellites which are simply space adapted telescopes.

Crossroads Inc. wrote:I odn't know wans't party of th OP that were sort of alone in this universe? no other planets and such?

No planets but three moon's, plus space telescopes are fun

Mr Bean wrote:On another note. GPS satellites done, Weather satellites done, Photo-satellites done. Radar imaging satellites TBA, Shroomian communication satellites in process.

Testing of a privately-owned and operated LEO satellite communications system is in progress as well.

Mr Bean wrote:Speaking of Hubble that took a year and a half to design, four years to build, and it was fucked up when in orbit, meaning they would have to redesign the whole thing. Or do what they did and correct it via a band-aid fix, the Hubble is about a half as powerful as it should have been because the mirror was off by a 1/50th of an inch apparently.

That's an incredibly inaccurate summary of the problems with Hubble.

They require gigantic focusing mirrors and specialized isolation system's unlike Photo-satellites which are simply space adapted telescopes

That's also incredibly wrong.

EDIT: Quotation edited for clarification

My Doctorate is not Satellite Optics, what I know is taken from a liberal sampling of Hubble's own website, Wikipedia and a half remembered Nova special.

In fact I don't have a Doctorate of any kind, but what I can verify is the length of time involved in construction for a space telescope, the costs, and the fact I've not devoted a dime to a serious optics industry.

phongn wrote: Testing of a privately-owned and operated LEO satellite communications system is in progress as well.

Launched from where and run by whom?

Mr Bean wrote:Launched from where and run by whom?

Er, it's in the thread, but an ITR corporation, SCC, contracted the launch out to Tian Xia's LockMart corporation. Only a few satellites are in orbit right now for testing purposes; mass launch of 66+spares satellites will commence as soon as testing has completed and any issues needed worked out.

phongn wrote: Er, it's in the thread, but an ITR corporation, SCC, contracted the launch out to Tian Xia's LockMart corporation. Only a few satellites are in orbit right now for testing purposes; mass launch of 66+spares satellites will commence as soon as testing has completed and any issues needed worked out.

Ah the four or so satellites Beowulf launched? He lost one because he tried to do it on the cheap and has since been launching them slowly correct?

Then there was the fun issue of a possible violation of the J.S.E.Z. as well then there's Saddaimstan correct? Which claims any satellites going through it's space is causi-beli for war and has acted on that already in refrence to Zoria? That space-program? Did I get all the details correct(I don't know how many satellites have been launched)

Mr Bean wrote:Ah the four or so satellites Beowulf launched? He lost one because he tried to do it on the cheap and has since been launching them slowly correct?

No, that was an entirely different launch.

I personally don't have much of an optics industry, since it is mostly supporting local science projects and military applications and may or may not be considered the finest, but merely good enough. The Hubble is simply an extension of the ground based telescope concept and we can simply update the concept with more up to date ideas like CCD and other more modern signal processing methods. The Hubble, as it stands, remains very flexible despite inherent flaws with some of its mirrors. In any case, no one can seriously expect zero problems since silica is itself a liquid and will warp with time. Newer techniques can rectify the problem.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:I personally don't have much of an optics industry, since it is mostly supporting local science projects and military applications and may or may not be considered the finest, but merely good enough.

Optics of this caliber require absolute precision and accuracy. I don't think anyone has experience in, say, making a 2.4 meter mirror built to this standard.

The Hubble is simply an extension of the ground based telescope concept and we can simply update the concept with more up to date ideas like CCD and other more modern signal processing methods.

It has that.

The Hubble, as it stands, remains very flexible despite inherent flaws with some of its mirrors. In any case, no one can seriously expect zero problems since silica is itself a liquid and will warp with time. Newer techniques can rectify the problem.

The problems with Hubble aren't related to it being in space.

phongn wrote:Optics of this caliber require absolute precision and accuracy. I don't think anyone has experience in, say, making a 2.4 meter mirror built to this standard.

Fair enough.

phongn wrote:

The Hubble is simply an extension of the ground based telescope concept and we can simply update the concept with more up to date ideas like CCD and other more modern signal processing methods.

It has that.

In more recent times, yes. The original Hubble, before the refit, didn't.

The problems with Hubble aren't related to it being in space.

What are the problems then? As I see it, if they had gone with a mirror that was divided up in parts, and then have servos to compensate for any warping or any aberration. Of course that requires space and I recall one of the problems was space limitations since a set up like that no doubt requires more power and space to install the computers and electronics to manipulate the servos.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:In more recent times, yes. The original Hubble, before the refit, didn't.

WF-PC/1 had eight 800x800 CCDs.

What are the problems then? As I see it, if they had gone with a mirror that was divided up in parts, and then have servos to compensate for any warping or any aberration. Of course that requires space and I recall one of the problems was space limitations since a set up like that no doubt requires more power and space to install the computers and electronics to manipulate the servos.

No, the problem was that the primary mirror was incorrectly ground. Corrective optics (COSTAR) were installed in the first servicing mission; newer systems are built with the actual optical parameters in mind, obviating the need for COSTAR (and it will be removed later this year).

Mr Bean wrote:Ah the four or so satellites Beowulf launched? He lost one because he tried to do it on the cheap and has since been launching them slowly correct?

That system has been retired due to international pressure, and replaced with Delta IVs.

Just a quick note, I've been seeing various different spellings throughout the game, but my country is in fact Zablania. Geddit right.

Zablorg wrote:Just a quick note, I've been seeing various different spellings throughout the game, but my country is in fact Zablania. Geddit right.

Zablorg.

Nice to see you're still alive.

I am not dead, merely....


Sleeping.

Zablorg wrote:I am not dead, merely....


Sleeping.

Ok then i will just tell everyone you are hiding in my secret bunker, until the bad robots go away.

About Liberia.

It's Somalia, only a little bigger. It does not have a government that we know of (else we'd probably go to war with it a long time ago), but it's a bunch of warlords running around in Toyotas fitted with missiles and anti-air machine guns, not much else.

As such, it's hard to say "Libertia" has a military parade, or forces, or anything, only various warlords in there do.

EDIT: ah, so Zablorg wants to reserve possibility of revival.

Well, do we grant it or do we just order precision strikes to wipe him and his mountain out? Anna has been itching to launch some shit from her shiny T-4 squardon... she's like my Darth Vader, my darker side.

Do you think Zablorg should live after the shit he pulled with robots and a lot of silly robot Celine Dion pathos? Y/N.

this game still open for players?

of course it is. it's always open

Stas Bush wrote: EDIT: ah, so Zablorg wants to reserve possibility of revival.

Well, do we grant it or do we just order precision strikes to wipe him and his mountain out? Anna has been itching to launch some shit from her shiny T-4 squardon... she's like my Darth Vader, my darker side.

Do you think Zablorg should live after the shit he pulled with robots and a lot of silly robot Celine Dion pathos? Y/N.

I want to make it clear that I'm not going to be revived. Those cultists are simply off their nut.

All right, here goes nothing, I want in on this insanity. Reminds me of what the Good Old Days were all about to begin with...

Let's just say that a rather large island by the name of Bangladesh (large enough to include RL Bangladesh plus a few neighbors, for discussion's sake; any other resemblance to the actual country is purely coincidental) just... well... more or less fell out of the clear blue sky in the middle of an ocean. Nobody has any reasonable explanation why, although there are rumors from some historians in Shepnukistan.

Not a whole lot is currently known about the Bangladeshi economy, other than everyone is mysteriously alive despite the island being just dropped unceremoniously in the ocean. A dark-skinned person, who bore a rather striking resemblance to the owner of Springfield's Kwik-E-Mart, appeared on TV to apologize for the inconvenience of any rogue tsunami to neighboring countries and offered reparations if needed in the form of humanitarian aid. "We weren't trying to hit anybody," he said in sing-song fashion, "but didn't quite realize what an impact it would have if we hit the ocean." Much groaning was heard from the audience.

Elsewhere in the world, a routine SAM battery test yielded unusual results: It has been rumored that one missile launched turned into a bowl of petunias and the other turned into a sperm whale. No intelligence officials have commented on the rumors, nor have any pictures been forthcoming. The link between the SAM tests and the sudden appearance of an entire island is unclear at this time.

(For the purpose of discussion, let's just say that Bangladesh is fairly normal in terms of defense...)

Crayz9000
It's allright, the new landmass is Q-ed into existence, and it is just presumed your nation remained isolationist

so you didn't cause us any trouble now pen out your nation's desired location - on the world map - I'll put you there.

And you can post in the main thread about what really happens

despite being identical to Bangladesh in terms of map, you have a vastly superior economy per the op so yeah

Oh excellent. I can finally create, RP and defend my ideal earthly government...

Jeez.. it's beginning to get crowded, but i guess my small nation state will somehow manage.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Jeez.. it's beginning to get crowded, but i guess my small nation state will somehow manage.

Not against my juggernaut of a nation...