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Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?

It's one test flight away. It's already flown without blowing up, but FASTA policy is two succesful tests before clearing for important payloads.

So in a month or two, we have something we can call a reliable booster.

PeZook wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:We already have a 2-6000 kg to LEO launcher right?

It's one test flight away. It's already flown without blowing up, but FASTA policy is two succesful tests before clearing for important payloads.

So in a month or two, we have something we can call a reliable booster.

Hmm... then DSP-1 will launch next year then. *runs off to do final tests of the probe*

EDIT: I decided to launch two probes, to place my bets on two horses.

I'm raising some objections to Ryan Thunder's OOB.
1. Three Carriers
2. SR-71 analogues
3. Supercruising Steath Tankers
4. BCGNs

Now, I know Alaska spends only a fraction of what the rest of you spend, but unless he's on a perminant war footing, I don't see how he can keep this up. Yes, I know that I'm one to talk with my Hustlers, but mine are planes that were/are on the drawing board.

He's a duchy, yes? There's no way he can have them much stuff.

He was having to change it anyway, apparently he thought his post count warranted a higher power level.

MariusRoi wrote:I'm raising some objections to Ryan Thunder's OOB.
1. Three Carriers
2. SR-71 analogues
3. Supercruising Steath Tankers
4. BCGNs

Now, I know Alaska spends only a fraction of what the rest of you spend, but unless he's on a perminant war footing, I don't see how he can keep this up. Yes, I know that I'm one to talk with my Hustlers, but mine are planes that were/are on the drawing board.

1 is gone, as I'm land-locked. However, I'm keeping one BCGN and a supplier as a deterrent and means of minor force projection.

SR-71 analogues are here to stay, as are the supercruising stealth tankers. Miratia is not a third-world country.

Well, not yet, anyways. e_e

My 5th-gen planes are on the drawing board and will be avaliable for export once I have produced a wing or two of them.

Miratia is intended to be a producer of technologically advanced equipment for export to the highest bidder.

How the fuck are you keeping a BCGN when you are landlocked?

Note to Ryan Thunder, you are the giant purple thing:

Well, that was unnecessarily huge

Also, FTO Guys, is my accuracy bad?

Lonestar wrote:How the fuck are you keeping a BCGN when you are landlocked?

There's a large river I can access the ocean through. It'll be a bit like maintaining a space station, I imagine, but I figure I won't need it enough for it to become terribly expensive to maintain.

Karmic Knight wrote:Note to Ryan Thunder, you are the giant purple thing:

Well, that was unnecessarily huge

Also, FTO Guys, is my accuracy bad?

Holy shit.

I got more to work with than I thought I would. Thanks.

Might I suggest instead that you focus on destroyers? I mean seriously, even a few of those Aegis destroyers the FTO is building now would be incredibly more useful...

Ryan Thunder wrote: There's a large river I can access the ocean through. It'll be a bit like maintaining a space station, I imagine, but I figure I won't need it enough for it to become terribly expensive to maintain.

Ha! Dick waving much? A BCGN when your only outlet is through a river?

I may sink it just for S&Gs, preferably in such a way it obstructs river traffic.

Ryan Thunder wrote:Holy shit.

I got more to work with than I thought I would. Thanks.

Just a reminder though, the northern areas of your nation have to be sparsely populated forest/jungle because you are just south of untamed wilderness.

Also there is the FTO, which you should be begging to join.

Lonestar wrote:Ha! Dick waving much? A BCGN when your only outlet is through a river?

I may sink it just for S&Gs, preferably in such a way it obstructs river traffic.

Well, Beowulf does control the river.

Karmic Knight wrote:
Well, Beowulf does control the river.

A joint-exercise then!

I don't think any of the Duchies started with nuclear powered ships. However, if you insist, be aware that there will be consequences.

As for the stealth bomber/tankers/whatever: I'm going to treat them as about as stealthy as a B-1: IOW, reduced signature, but not actually low enough to be stealth.

Beowulf wrote:I don't think any of the Duchies started with nuclear powered ships. However, if you insist, be aware that there will be consequences.

I had a nuke sub, but that was about it.

Beowulf wrote:I don't think any of the Duchies started with nuclear powered ships. However, if you insist, be aware that there will be consequences.

Well shit, if it's that big of a deal, I'll lose the BCGN. I'm not about to try pissing you of all people off.

As for the stealth bomber/tankers/whatever: I'm going to treat them as about as stealthy as a B-1: IOW, reduced signature, but not actually low enough to be stealth.

Yeah, that's what I intended. They're somewhat harder to detect than a conventional aircraft of similar size would be, but they aren't ludicrously stealthy like the B-2 or anything. Hence the "rudimentary" comment in the description.

Would Tian Xia be interested in purchasing modular personal weaponry from my arms factories for your soldiers?

Ryan Thunder wrote:Miratia is intended to be a producer of technologically advanced equipment for export to the highest bidder.

It's not a truly major concern of mine, but this really doesn't jive very well with your surroundings. As a whole Frequesue is a pretty chaotic and anarchy-riddled continent, and your neighborhood (the interior) in particular is generally poor and unstable. Moreover, your nation is fairly small (GDP-wise) and has apparently just recently emerged from a state of warlordism... For such a nation to field a force of SR-71s and stealthy tankers seems about as likely as Tunisia construction a space station.

Beowulf wrote:I don't think any of the Duchies started with nuclear powered ships.

I did: I started with one CGN and two SSNs, and have since built another CGN and a bunch of SSGNs.

Seriously, your country has just emerged from warlordism, and your only access to the sea is through a single river. You shouldn't have a navy at all, nor should you have much of the fancy toys that you do have.

And besides, how could the FTO have missed all this equipment beforehand?

Erm.. PeZook? Imperial Pharmaceuticals?

And there's no advertising campaign yet. What we are doing is deliberately asking hospitals to preferentially prescribe our drugs and not yours. No exclusive agreements will probably be achieved, so there's no anti-competitiveness here.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Erm.. PeZook? Imperial Pharmaceuticals?

Wilkonian company. I hope Wilkens doesn't mind

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:And there's no advertising campaign yet. What we are doing is deliberately asking hospitals to preferentially prescribe our drugs and not yours. No exclusive agreements will probably be achieved, so there's no anti-competitiveness here.

Yes there is...

"Buy branded. Buy safe."

And, erm...wait, I don't get something. Are you fighting GSK or PolPharma and the government's generic drug initiative?

Ryan Thunder wrote:

Beowulf wrote:I don't think any of the Duchies started with nuclear powered ships. However, if you insist, be aware that there will be consequences.

Well shit, if it's that big of a deal, I'll lose the BCGN. I'm not about to try pissing you of all people off.

Oh, there's nothing I'll overtly do to you in game over having a BCGN.

As for the stealth bomber/tankers/whatever: I'm going to treat them as about as stealthy as a B-1: IOW, reduced signature, but not actually low enough to be stealth.

Yeah, that's what I intended. They're somewhat harder to detect than a conventional aircraft of similar size would be, but they aren't ludicrously stealthy like the B-2 or anything. Hence the "rudimentary" comment in the description.

Would Tian Xia be interested in purchasing modular personal weaponry from my arms factories for your soldiers?

First off, I'm much, much bigger than you. Second, I'm part of the largest military-economic pact in the game. If I do decide to outsource military production, I'd probably be for much better reasons than just for the hell of it.

PeZook wrote:Yes there is...

"Buy branded. Buy safe."

And, erm...wait, I don't get something. Are you fighting GSK or PolPharma and the government's generic drug initiative?

Technically our main objective is a coup de grace against GSK. But seeing that you are also trotting our your generic drug initiative, we have to defend our marketshare, however pitiful it is.

So you are our competitor. As are other pharmaceutical companies out there. Unless you want to come to an agreement with us that is. *points to that letter sent through the foreign ministry*

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Technically our main objective is a coup de grace against GSK. But seeing that you are also trotting our your generic drug initiative, we have to defend our marketshare, however pitiful it is.

So you are our competitor. As are other pharmaceutical companies out there. Unless you want to come to an agreement with us that is. *points to that letter sent through the foreign ministry*

Actually, we could go on and murder GSK....together!

The objective is to provide cheap drugs for PeZookians, after all, and if the Byzantines benefit from Polpharma's patents (they do have some, though not as many as giants like Blue Sun) then it's win-win, right?

PeZook wrote:

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Technically our main objective is a coup de grace against GSK. But seeing that you are also trotting our your generic drug initiative, we have to defend our marketshare, however pitiful it is.

So you are our competitor. As are other pharmaceutical companies out there. Unless you want to come to an agreement with us that is. *points to that letter sent through the foreign ministry*

Actually, we could go on and murder GSK....together!

The objective is to provide cheap drugs for PeZookians, after all, and if the Byzantines benefit from Polpharma's patents (they do have some, though not as many as giants like Blue Sun) then it's win-win, right?

Alright. In that case I'll write up a formal letter, then have the company send a representative.

Holy cow...GSK will really have to rethink their strategy...it's like everybody on the continent decided to assrape them in a giant corporate gang-bang all of a sudden

EDIT: HOLY SHIT BYZANTIUM HAS JEAN RENO!!!