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Posted: 2008-08-03 04:36am
by Siege
RogueIce wrote:SiegeTank
If you're going to be doing the whole pirate thing, you'd almost certainly run afoul of me at some point. The Navy is very much my Senior Service and all (being an island nation) so we'd take a dim view to piracy. As in sending down ships and Marines (both my own, and if Canissia aids me as well), not paying you off.
San Dorado gave up the pirate schtick in the late 19th century, just before anyone could be bothered enough to send another army to finish Makaros' job. These days we rent out the occasional mercenary and perhaps occasionally a Navy ship, but that's all legit PMC stuff, not piracy. Too many guys with bigger sticks than we to keep looting merchants, really -- the Board feels there's no profit in getting shelled by you, or PeZook, or anybody else :wink:.

Bean wrote:Well anyway we have a starting point, the Khitan is the east most shore of the Northern Continent.
It seems we're settling with the name of Frequesue (courtesy of Raj) for our Africa-analogue. That's fine with me; on such a continent I'd like to be somewhere reasonably close to the equator, and a pretty far distance removed from the Old Continent (and Shroom). San Dorado was a remote trading outpost after all.

Posted: 2008-08-03 04:50am
by Shroom Man 777
SiegeTank wrote: on such a continent I'd like to be somewhere reasonably close to the equator, and a pretty far distance removed from the Old Continent (and Shroom).
:lol:

And why's that?

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:02am
by Siege
Shroom Man 777 wrote: :lol:

And why's that?
Uh, because there's no point in you establishing a colony a stone's throw away from your shores, and because I get the feeling I might be better off being as far removed from PeZook as possible :D.

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:06am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Actually, if San Dorado is in a strategic location, the Byzantine Empire might be interested in taking an interest in the location. Of course, in exchange for some protection and trading rights and some investment, we'd like some annual tribute. :wink:

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:11am
by Shroom Man 777
Neo-Colonialism, Fingolfin?

I wonder if Yenchin's Mangka's history can tie in with Skimmer's Japistan. If Beowulf goes for another Tian Xia with another Huang Di Beowulf, it might be cool too. Japan analogues! Plus Shepistan and the Old Dominion being a Pakistan-India deal, we have our pseudo-Asia!

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:24am
by Siege
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Actually, if San Dorado is in a strategic location, the Byzantine Empire might be interested in taking an interest in the location. Of course, in exchange for some protection and trading rights and some investment, we'd like some annual tribute. :wink:
A generous offer, but I'm afraid we'll have to pass :wink:. We'll take our chances with the world instead. Your merchants and your navy are free to visit La Palma for trade, shore leave and resupply of course, but if you want a slice of San Dorado you're gonna have to pay for it, just like everybody else :).

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:41am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Neo-Colonialism, Fingolfin?

I wonder if Yenchin's Mangka's history can tie in with Skimmer's Japistan. If Beowulf goes for another Tian Xia with another Huang Di Beowulf, it might be cool too. Japan analogues! Plus Shepistan and the Old Dominion being a Pakistan-India deal, we have our pseudo-Asia!
Well, vassal states have their uses. :wink:

Posted: 2008-08-03 05:43am
by Karmic Knight
Shroom Man 777 wrote: I wonder if Yenchin's Mangka's history can tie in with Skimmer's Japistan. If Beowulf goes for another Tian Xia with another Huang Di Beowulf, it might be cool too. Japan analogues! Plus Shepistan and the Old Dominion being a Pakistan-India deal, we have our pseudo-Asia!
Pseudo-Earth For The Win!
EDIT:
Beowulf wrote: adjustments:
You can shave off parts of one category to boost other categories. May not lower any category to below 50% of it's base.
You may accept a lower standard of living in exchange for increased population.
.
With that, can I, say, shave off 103 points from my Navy and redirect those resources into my Army and Air force?

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:40am
by DarthShady
PeZook wrote:Awright, we need to finally think up the Major Industrial-Era Paradigm-Shifting War.

Bean mentioned that his country would sign up on the losing side (and man, it's large, so here's what I was thinking:

-snip-

Except the second round leads to allied victory because Stas gets involved, the Empire turns socialist, Khitan has a regime change and the FUN is created some 20-30 years after.
This is a great idea. :D

So Me, Bean and the arab chewtoy-state( :D ) go against you guys. This should be FUN.

I have a quick question. I want to make my OOB by using the spreadsheat that Coyote made so I need some help. The 210pts that Duchies get, is it like 210 for the Navy/210 for the Air Force and 210 for the Army or is it 210pts overall?

I'm confused. :?

Also: Can my guys be the inventors of the Aeroplane?

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:42am
by Karmic Knight
DarthShady wrote:
I have a quick question. I want to make my OOB by using the spreadsheat that Coyote made so I need some help. The 210pts that Duchies get, is it like 210 for the Navy/210 for the Air Force and 210 for the Army or is it 210pts overall?
I set it up as 210 each, but if it is 210 overall, then I have to redesign my Navy.

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:44am
by Shroom Man 777
I was pitching for the Shwright Brothers, but perhaps you guys could invent the aeroplane. And the tank?

That might explain your early advantages!

Shadow Panzers!!!

Posted: 2008-08-03 06:48am
by DarthShady
Karmic Knight wrote:
DarthShady wrote:
I have a quick question. I want to make my OOB by using the spreadsheat that Coyote made so I need some help. The 210pts that Duchies get, is it like 210 for the Navy/210 for the Air Force and 210 for the Army or is it 210pts overall?
I set it up as 210 each, but if it is 210 overall, then I have to redesign my Navy.
I am going to wait until Coyote or Beowulf give me an answer. But I think 210pts overall is too little.
I was pitching for the Shwright Brothers, but perhaps you guys could invent the aeroplane. And the tank?

That might explain your early advantages!

Shadow Panzers!!!
:lol:

Mang I love your ideas. :D

Posted: 2008-08-03 07:05am
by Shroom Man 777
In WW1, maybe the PeZookians hear that the Shadows were going to deploy "cavalry" and thus sent their own horsemen...

...to take on the Shadow Panzers. :twisted:


(Then the old-fashioned Shadow Panzers break down in the mud, and the PeZookian horsemen just leave them there and gallop elsewhere.)

Posted: 2008-08-03 07:15am
by PeZook
Shroom Man 777 wrote:In WW1, maybe the PeZookians hear that the Shadows were going to deploy "cavalry" and thus sent their own horsemen...

...to take on the Shadow Panzers. :twisted:
That would work...except for the part where my people are not completely incompetent. :)

And, of course, economically PeZookia is on par with the Shadow Empire, which makes any attempt at historical parallelism go out the window. Or, at least, work more like Germany vs France rather than Germany vs. Poland :D

EDIT: Oh, also, I'm calling dibs on the first central bank, paper currency and government bond emission :D

Posted: 2008-08-03 07:41am
by Siege
Is the first steamdriven ironclad warship claimed already? If not, I'm claiming it!

Posted: 2008-08-03 07:57am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
SiegeTank wrote:Is the first steamdriven ironclad warship claimed already? If not, I'm claiming it!
I haven't claimed the steam version, but definitely an ironclad warship.

As for the Nobel Prize. I claim dips.

Plus, be warned that Byzantine warfare has been historically of the mobile type. Try your blitzreig tactics on me, and I will whack back with both elastic defence and mobile counterattacks.

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:05am
by Shroom Man 777
Fuck it, I'm claiming the CAR!

If Shroomania is an amalgamation of Britain and Germany, then I should get the automobile cause the Goddamn Germans invented it!

Jawol! The Shroomenwagen! :lol:

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:08am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Fuck it, I'm claiming the CAR!

If Shroomania is an amalgamation of Britain and Germany, then I should get the automobile cause the Goddamn Germans invented it!

Jawol! The Shroomenwagen! :lol:
Then in friendly competition, I claim the first Dreadnaught Battleship. I shall name her: IBNS Stragetikon

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:09am
by Shroom Man 777
Oh, like the Shroomanian Navy is gonna let that slide :P

We'll get the SSS Shroomsmark! Then it'll sink... :(

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:12am
by Siege
While we're at it, I might as well claim steel-framed 10+ story highrise, AKA the skyscraper. Beyond that I'm more than happy to simply steal all your inventions :).

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:16am
by Shroom Man 777
Super Spectacle Sights!

Fuck it, I need to counter that with some of MacMillan's Marvelous Machines - a trade fair showcasing the best and brightest of Shroomania! Nikoshroom Tesla will dominate the contests until he goes insane and irradiates himself with his prototype X-ray and dies horribly from cancer. Then some bright dude will invent the Zeppelin and we can have the Graf Shroomenburg blow up somewhere... in Constantinople! (Oh the humanity!)

:lol:

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:16am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Oh, like the Shroomanian Navy is gonna let that slide :P

We'll get the SSS Shroomsmark! Then it'll sink... :(
Actually, contrary to popular history, by the time we rush to build our prestige weapons, we'd be allies. So we are just building to deal with potential aggressors, like Shadow Empire. :lol:

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:20am
by Shroom Man 777
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Oh, like the Shroomanian Navy is gonna let that slide :P

We'll get the SSS Shroomsmark! Then it'll sink... :(
Actually, contrary to popular history, by the time we rush to build our prestige weapons, we'd be allies. So we are just building to deal with potential aggressors, like Shadow Empire. :lol:
Doesn't mean the dicks in our country won't stop themselves from one-upping each other!

For the first time in history, penis-envy contests will save the world from fascism!

"Look, a penis - but smaller!"

"Shadows! Watch out!"

*boom*


(Maybe in War of the Worlds 1, Stas' Rodina could've been Tsarist back then and thus sided with the Shadows or something? Then in the middle of the war, they backed out and had a revolution and turned commie - leaving their Shadow and A-rab allies high and dry!)

(Tsarist Rodina versus Byzantium! FIGHT!)

(Then after the revolution, Stas' now-communist Red Rodina could be opposed to the Shadows and side with us during the War of the Worlds 2 or something.)

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:33am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Shroom Man 777 wrote:(Tsarist Rodina versus Byzantium! FIGHT!)

(Then after the revolution, Stas' now-communist Red Rodina could be opposed to the Shadows and side with us during the War of the Worlds 2 or something.)
Well, that is unlikely, unless the Church of Constantinople and Omsk decide to kill each other....

And I am more likely to send my Patriarch to the gladiatorial pit in the Hippodrome to duel with the Russian Patriarch instead of a war.

Posted: 2008-08-03 08:42am
by Siege
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Well, that is unlikely, unless the Church of Constantinople and Omsk decide to kill each other....
Well, the patriarch of Moscow and the patriarch of Constantinople aren't exactly the best of friends in our reality...