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Posted: 2003-12-21 09:41pm
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:If you want loyal allies you won't find better than the Affront and myself. Unlike Thirdfain I'm not about to use and discard allies.
Hey, we never were allied on paper- we just cooperated in the mutual rape of an unsuspecting power.
Fortunatly, the GA has my loyalty on paper.
I still considered you an ally even if it wasn't on paper. And that as far as I'm concerned what makes an ally, not little pieces of paper. If you've got no problem screwing me, what makes that paper any more valuable than TP when you can get a deal?
Posted: 2003-12-21 09:43pm
by Thirdfain
I still considered you an ally even if it wasn't on paper. And that as far as I'm concerned what makes an ally, not little pieces of paper. If you've got no problem screwing me, what makes that paper any more valuable than TP when you can get a deal?
Good point.
Posted: 2003-12-21 09:46pm
by Beowulf
Thirdfain wrote:For the same reason that mercantilism was effective in a period of real life history. There are vast, untapped, and largely unclaimed stretches of space from which you can extract natural resources virtually without limit. The best thing to do is to play the same game as the British did after the rennaissance. Grab as much territory as you can lay hands on and exploit the hell out of it. The markets in other countries aren't overly developed at this stage in the game, making Free Trade not as attractive as it might otherwise be.
Wow. That makes a great deal of sense. Hmm.
There's a reason why I've concentrated upon military alliances. Free trade isn't all that useful when you have vast tracts of space just outside your borders, which as it happens, you have to cross before going anywhere else.
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:33pm
by Pablo Sanchez
A couple diplomacy points:
I love playing the Kzin, with their "total asshole" approach to these things.
Just make a deadline on that ultimatum and start the war. Pissing around over the blame is a waste of time
kill kill kill kill
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:39pm
by Thirdfain
Isn't it?
One of these days, Pablo... One of these days...
We'll be happy allies! and the whole Galaxy will rejoice in peace and happiness. Azegart preists will play volleyball with Aquarian diplomats! Commonwealth Legionnaires will dance with pretty SKS celestials! Stuartian executives will share meals of raw sthondat with Kzinti!
Everyone will be happy.
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:40pm
by Darksider
Thirdfain wrote:Isn't it?
One of these days, Pablo... One of these days...
We'll be happy allies! and the whole Galaxy will rejoice in peace and happiness. Azegart preists will play volleyball with Aquarian diplomats! Commonwealth Legionnaires will dance with pretty SKS celestials! Stuartian executives will share meals of raw sthondat with Kzinti!
Everyone will be happy.
::::: Sneaks up behind thirdfain and drives a knife in his back::::::
There. Now we can have years and years of war, chaos and destruction
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:44pm
by Darksider
God dammit Thirdfain!
I have to go to sleep. You can't start the war now.
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:44pm
by Thirdfain
We can all hold off.
shit, am I the only EST person around here?
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:44pm
by Alyrium Denryle
yes
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:45pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Dont worry Thirdfain, we still love you
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:47pm
by Thirdfain
I would like some fawning loyalty, thank you very much. Save the love for those who don't hold the controls of an awful, militaristic powermonger...
Posted: 2003-12-21 10:50pm
by Darksider
Alright, we'll recess untill tomorrow morning then.
Goodnight everybody.
::::: Gets up and walks to bed like a zombie::::::
Posted: 2003-12-22 06:26am
by Companion Cube
Handily, i'm on at roughly the same time as some of my allies...
Posted: 2003-12-22 06:59am
by Dahak
Christ, the cool stuff always happens while I'm asleep...
And I'm paranoid. Which means everything gets blasted out of space, which doesn't exactly appear or enter where they are told to.
Shoot first, Ask questions later
Posted: 2003-12-22 10:35am
by Alyrium Denryle
BAH!
Curse you nitram!! You told me you had no ships that are 300 km long!!
Posted: 2003-12-22 12:10pm
by SirNitram
Alyrium Denryle wrote:BAH!
Curse you nitram!! You told me you had no ships that are 300 km long!!
I had forgotten the sheer size of my fleet tenders. I apologize.
Posted: 2003-12-22 12:53pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Well, NITRAM*glares* gave me the wrng info on is fleet, so if no one objects, I would like to do a retroactive edit of the cooresponding sections.
Posted: 2003-12-22 08:48pm
by Stormbringer
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Well, NITRAM*glares* gave me the wrng info on is fleet, so if no one objects, I would like to do a retroactive edit of the cooresponding sections.
Nope, it stays. You can read his OOB same as everyone else.
Posted: 2003-12-22 09:42pm
by Alyrium Denryle
Stormbringer wrote:Alyrium Denryle wrote:Well, NITRAM*glares* gave me the wrng info on is fleet, so if no one objects, I would like to do a retroactive edit of the cooresponding sections.
Nope, it stays. You can read his OOB same as everyone else.
Bah, I had asked him directly while speaking to him... Blasted trust... damages me again
Posted: 2003-12-22 09:44pm
by Stormbringer
Alyrium Denryle wrote:Bah, I had asked him directly while speaking to him... Blasted trust... damages me again
That's what you get for trusting the wrong people.
Posted: 2003-12-22 10:18pm
by Alyrium Denryle
*sigh* I thought it was possible to trust The Nitram... oh well...
Posted: 2003-12-22 10:23pm
by Thirdfain
He probably just made a mistake- it is unimportant, though. We run sovereign nations beholden only to those we wish to be beholden too.
Posted: 2003-12-22 10:25pm
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:He probably just made a mistake- it is unimportant, though.
Maybe, but it does go to show you that you have to be careful.
Thirdfain wrote:We run sovereign nations beholden only to those we wish to be beholden too.
So you say....
Posted: 2003-12-22 11:00pm
by Thirdfain
International politics, man, just took a course on it. Historically, a nation's responsibility to other nations is inversely proportional to it's ability to exert force.
Posted: 2003-12-23 12:33am
by Stormbringer
Thirdfain wrote:International politics, man, just took a course on it. Historically, a nation's responsibility to other nations is inversely proportional to it's ability to exert force.
Oh, I know that's how it works. I'm just noting you've acquired a nice set of client states.