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Still years. No "constellations" sadly and especially no GPS - until reliable boosters of several tons to GTO or even directly to GSO are made.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:What we need are GPS sats and ShroomSats!

ShroomSatTV, mang!

Actually, I'm also inclined to launch a few telescopes as well, and weather satellites.

Of course... there are also the surveillance satellites.

We can work together on that, so we can be both rich, and so we won't have to individually spend shitloads of money and end up poor!

Wait... if we launch spy satellites through FASTA, that will get us into trouble. By us, I mean FASTA. That'll... dampen its legitimacy and stuff.

We'll need another launch pad for private military stuff. Like how the USA doesn't launch military stuff from Cape Canaveral, right?

Hrm...

Viva San Dorado!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:We can work together on that, so we can be both rich, and so we won't have to individually spend shitloads of money and end up poor!

Wait... if we launch spy satellites through FASTA, that will get us into trouble. By us, I mean FASTA. That'll... dampen its legitimacy and stuff.

We'll need another launch pad for private military stuff. Like how the USA doesn't launch military stuff from Cape Canaveral, right?

Hrm...

Viva San Dorado!

Yeah.. my budget needs a shrinking, especially when I embarked on one heck of an expansion.

Maybe Comona can be used for the military launches?

Or San Dorado! Our Super Best Friend!

Anyway... we got a Black Penny down! I repeat, we got a Black Penny down! Super Six One is going down!

MIKE SHROOMANT, WE WON'T LEAVE YOU BEHIND!

For a modest fee we'll be most happy to accommodate your military launches by the way. We'll even promise we won't even spy on your designs (much)!

(Hell, I have to know what I'm launching to some extent, right? I mean, it'd be bad for business if it turned out my brand-new heavy lifter was used to deliver nuclear bombardment satellites into high orbit or something... But other than that, sure, we'll be more than happy to have you over for spy and other military satellites!)

The CSR would just pursue upgraded MRBMs to ICBMs which later would be used to launch milsats, or pressure through a launch with R-7 derivatives or Protons once they are accessible.

We might also construct a cosmodrome. Real-life Baikonur was made in 2 years and it was in the middle of zero infrastructure wasteland to ensure falling parts won't impact human settlements. It was in the 1950s. I think you could consctruct a basic R-7 launchpad in 2 years or so now as well.

Yeah, we ought to have the training facilities, rocket assembly all in one place.

Of course, we ought to have backup options....

Stas Bush wrote:The CSR would just pursue upgraded MRBMs to ICBMs which later would be used to launch milsats, or pressure through a launch with R-7 derivatives or Protons once they are accessible.

Yeah, that's what I did as well. I wouldn't expect much space-related business from the CSR - after all, doesn't FASTA use rockets built (or at least designed) by you?

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Of course, we ought to have backup options....

Well, there's preciously few people in any credible position to object from a San Doradan launch, and we're not much farther away from the equator... Pick me! Pick meee! [/advertisements]

Also: I see we can expect some more business from Canissia? Sweet!

The FASTA will develop the technology we can later use to militarize the fuck out of space if we want to. Really, building a new launch pad is a question of money and will - if you have developed the boosters, it's not much problem at all.

Fingolfin wrote:Yeah, we ought to have the training facilities, rocket assembly all in one place.

I don't see why. Launch sites are partially restricted by geography. You can train astronauts wherever you want: if the program is civilian, near the launch site. If you want secrecy, far from the launch site.

Later on, of course, moon training will be moved to the JSC for convenience, but there's nothing stopping us from, say, training Space Force cadets in deep Siberia or something.

Siegetank wrote: Yeah, that's what I did as well. I wouldn't expect much space-related business from the CSR - after all, doesn't FASTA use rockets built (or at least designed) by you?

Yeah, the R-7 has been designed by the CSR, but FASTA contracts a lot of people for is engineering. The Saturn, for example, will be made by many subcontractors (since it will need ridiculously huge engine bells, for example).

Shroomania will provide the catheters to ensure maximum comfort for our brave pioneers of space.

PeZook wrote:I don't see why. Launch sites are partially restricted by geography. You can train astronauts wherever you want: if the program is civilian, near the launch site. If you want secrecy, far from the launch site.

Later on, of course, moon training will be moved to the JSC for convenience, but there's nothing stopping us from, say, training Space Force cadets in deep Siberia or something.

Well, training elsewhere is fine.

The issue of course is assembling the rockets in situ.

That aside, we ought to look into alternative launch sites for other purposes.

San Dorado, Comona... IRT... and Velaria.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:San Dorado, Comona... IRT... and Velaria.

San Dorado is an option of civilian launches. But I doubt they would like it if we launch military payloads.

Comona might be an option as well, but it's not inland and we have to ship rocket parts over.

In time of war, we need a short logistical train. We might have to launch either in Anatolia or somewhere in the CSR.

Fingolfin_Noldor wrote: Well, training elsewhere is fine.

The issue of course is assembling the rockets in situ.

That aside, we ought to look into alternative launch sites for other purposes.

The rockets are assembled in situ. They are moved to the JSC as invidiual stages (which can, you know, fit inside rail cars at speed ) from the factory and then assembled in the Horizontal Assembly Building.

Later on, more and more assembly duties will be handled at the JSC, since monstrosities like the Saturn V are difficult to move.

The CSR is too far from whatsits, Shroomania is nearer to the equator. Shroomania, Byzantium... and Canissia.

Let's invite the Canissians into our game! They're an Imperium, mangs.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:The CSR is too far from whatsits, Shroomania is nearer to the equator. Shroomania, Byzantium... and Canissia.

Let's invite the Canissians into our game! They're an Imperium, mangs.

If they are too far, build bigger rockets.

And the MESS as it is, pursues their own program. I merely help cofund a bit of it.

DUDE! Your budget...!

Shroom Man 777 wrote:DUDE! Your budget...!

It's only a few billion spread over a few years.

And in any case, I'm not a socialist state. I practice only bits of it.

I will post the Further Adventures of Frank the Elephant tomorrow, or something. I haven't started writing it yet.

Wait for me, Shady! WAAAAAAAAIT!!!!!

JESUS CHRIST that was disturbing

I have a new avatar. It is (in)appropriate.

Shroom Man 777 wrote:I will post the Further Adventures of Frank the Elephant tomorrow, or something. I haven't started writing it yet.

Wait for me, Shady! WAAAAAAAAIT!!!!!

I'll wait.

Anyway, time to make a New Year's post.

JESUS CHRIST that was disturbing

You can say that again.

Bah, the MSA facility in the OD is Kickass and much better sited for launches than anything you clowns could come up with.

Until the Sheppos ruin your shit with whatever crazy shit they come up with.



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