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Spyder wrote:

Stormbringer wrote: I swear I've never seen a group so timid.

You should see the ASVS STGOD. There hasn't been a war in about three years.

Infact I actually created two different powers, then had one go to war with the other and start annexing it. No one stopped me, in the end I had a power that was twice as big as anyone else's and we were still on good relations with the rest of the galaxy.

Three years? You mean the last ASVS STGOD I participated in was the last one where combat happened? I need to go back there and shake things up...

So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Rogue 9 wrote:So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

Stormbringer wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

I don't give my word lightly.

Rogue 9 wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

I don't give my word lightly.

I meant Nitram. Sorry for the confusion.

Stormbringer wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:

Stormbringer wrote: Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

I don't give my word lightly.

I meant Nitram. Sorry for the confusion.

Ah. Given the recent AIM chat and your reaction, I thought you might have meant us. Should have thought over what you were saying a bit more; after all, couldn't have been talking to me since it's not my move to start negotiations. Oh well. No harm done. *Shrug*

Rogue 9 wrote:Ah. Given the recent AIM chat and your reaction, I thought you might have meant us. Should have thought over what you were saying a bit more; after all, couldn't have been talking to me since it's not my move to start negotiations. Oh well. No harm done. *Shrug*

I wasn't impressed but I still don't support Nitram's land grab. So now you know.

I know no one suppots my landgrab. I'd be concerned if you did.

Now that I'm at the computer, I'll make a post summoning the observers.

SirNitram wrote:I know no one suppots my landgrab. I'd be concerned if you did.

Now that I'm at the computer, I'll make a post summoning the observers.

I'm not really obstructing it...

Stormbringer wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

Oh, it's definately a farce. One designed to mock all the landgrabbing that's been going on without a peep from the high-'n-mighty nations. But I'll be playing it through.

SirNitram wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:So are we going to have these negotiations with the neutrals, or is that just a trick to try to get us to STFU while you take over, hmmm?

Yes, because I do intend to see you actually live up to the promises you made at the start of this sad little comedy. At the least I want this to be real, not a farce.

Oh, it's definately a farce. One designed to mock all the landgrabbing that's been going on without a peep from the high-'n-mighty nations. But I'll be playing it through.

1.) The Draconis Republic got slapped down, and hard. That's hardly without a peep.

2.) The Ousters, to my knowledge, haven't seizen anything overtly since Hudson.

3.) The Veithans were doing their takeovers covertly, and the Krell were hired to stop the one that even halfway came to light.

4.) Amarr overtly practiced slavery and oppressed its citizenry. That was heartily deserved, and Hotfoot's news service even hailed it as a blow for sentient rights. It doesn't even compare.

5.) Ronogho is not a land grab. My forces are withdrawing from the system on the next post I make on the subject.

So unless I missed something, there has been nothing even remotely comparable to this free doubling of territory in the game so far.

Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death? The NPN bullshit has been continuing for some time, and everyone else sees it.

SirNitram wrote:Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death?

... When was this? *Reads back*

Rogue 9 wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death?

... When was this? *Reads back*

Discussed on 151. Scan for 'Shi', and I think 'Pardah'

SirNitram wrote:Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death? The NPN bullshit has been continuing for some time, and everyone else sees it.

Actually, it doesn't seem they actually carried through on that.

Stormbringer wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death? The NPN bullshit has been continuing for some time, and everyone else sees it.

Actually, it doesn't seem they actually carried through on that.

The stuff in 151 and later pages certainly bloody look like they did.

SirNitram wrote:

Stormbringer wrote:

SirNitram wrote:Did you perhaps not notice the Shi conquering a nation because of one of their ambassadors suffering what they called an accidental death? The NPN bullshit has been continuing for some time, and everyone else sees it.

Actually, it doesn't seem they actually carried through on that.

The stuff in 151 and later pages certainly bloody look like they did.

No, they're quite gone:

n agreement had been reached, where the Shi fleet minded its own business away from their system,

Stormbringer wrote:

SirNitram wrote:

Stormbringer wrote: Actually, it doesn't seem they actually carried through on that.

The stuff in 151 and later pages certainly bloody look like they did.

No, they're quite gone:

Oh well. Might as well follow through; it'd be very stupid to go 'Uh! Didn't do it!' at this point, no?

SirNitram wrote:Oh well. Might as well follow through; it'd be very stupid to go 'Uh! Didn't do it!' at this point, no?

You're welcome to follow through. Or you can back down. Either way.

You tried to make a capital 2 didn't you Alyrium? Didn't you?

DIDN'T YOU!

2.) The Ousters, to my knowledge, haven't seizen anything overtly since Hudson.

Wrong. We have VVERY overtly seized Edean, Camaro, and Ja'del. Warships flying the Starburst are pretty openely displayed there, and numerous Covenant and Krynori men and women languish beneath our rule.

Wait, Camaro? When was this? As I recall, the Alliance largely carried that naval battle and the Monacorans were landing troops. When did you get the planet?

Pay attention Rogue!

This is why us Alliance types don't like him remember?!?

I was referring to neutral worlds, not the planets they seized from other PC nations, because that's what Nitram's complaining about. Those were all part of the Krynori Imperium, weren't they? The relevant part to this discussion would be if he's seized any NPC nations since then.

Wait, Camaro? When was this? As I recall, the Alliance largely carried that naval battle and the Monacorans were landing troops. When did you get the planet?

Maybe you should read up. I was the one who attacked Camaro. It was my men and women who died conquering it, Monacora arrived in the endgame. I destroyed the Krynori defense fleet there- you dueled with the massed Krynori navy there hours after I had already begun. Recall, I was the one who launched the war against the Krynor- you guys just absorbed the hits for me. Thanks!