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We've already placed our order for an An-22P. Some of the Air Force officers already have a rough idea of what they want for the gunship's nose art.Stas Bush wrote:Please do! *extends hand* Custom painting done by your pilots or artists, but we provide the paint gratis!Looking at that An-22P gunship makes me want to order one
Byzantium's Constantinople Shipping eagerly awaits these new ships. Aside from competition from rivals, Constantinople shipping wants to be free of pesky pirates who take potshots at our ships.CmdrWilkens wrote:The difference is that while the FCS takes a crew 8 to carry 15k DWT wheras the Wilkonian Container Transport is an 8000 TEU (roughly 100k DWT) container only vessel with a crew of 12-20. Just one Wilkonian vessel can carry something on the order of 8 times the cargo load (for containerized/intermodal cargo) of the FCS. So basically if you get in line behind Fingolfin (who has priority delivery of the next two to roll off of FCSY's slipways around the last quarter of 2009) you could have as much tonnage and capacity as waiting around for 8-10 FCS's to get delivered.Shroom Man 777 wrote:The FCS and the ACV are proven designs, they've been rigorously tested, and more countries are in on 'em than just Wilkonia
The per-unit cost is 210million ROB (250million USD) so its as much as a dozen FCS's but also requires less crewspace and lower lifetime operational costs.
The other Wilkonian vessel (aside from minor shipping vessels on the order of 3-5000 DWT) which folks might be interested in if the LNG carrier which is currently the sole anounced LNG vessel. If you want to trade in gas then you probably want one (or else you can go build and maintain a pipeline).
As an aside I've seen the rough 500k DWT/yr for Tsardom's and I'm just stating offhand that the naval expenditure I've been putting out there is leading to a noticeable and consistent increase in that capacity for Wilkonia. As I'm not sure if anyone else is maintinaing enough of a naval support infrastructure to sustain 4 CVBGs (including 1 in refit at all times) I think its justifiable.
Yep - we are an archipelago world, and that means shipping to anywhere has to go by sea or air. In this situation smaller transports are the best - they can move the goods to several ports in smaller portions, right where they are needed. On Earth, most shipping moves between giant ports, out of which trucks and trains distribute the goods (and distances are vastly greater).Shroom Man 777 wrote:Note that Shroomania has had experience in outfitting vessels with anti-piracy armament and that while the FCS is a smaller vessel, it is much faster than the Wilkonian Container Transport. The FCS is great for inter-island shipping and sometimes, size isn't everything
Uh, no. Sweden has five times PeZookia' s GDP, three times the GDP per capita and almost twice the population
Zor wrote:2,501-5,000 Posts-Kingdom
-Total Land Area, 250,000 square kilometers
-Population: 15 million first world, 30 million second world
-Military, 100,000-200,000 personel, Comprable armored/motorized deployment to Royal Army, 150 Jet Fighters, 10 Arleigh Burke-class Destroyers, 40 Halifax Class Frigates and 10 modern Diesel submarines
-Able to produce enough food for export, with industry capable of producing largescale goods such as cars, modern arms industry and some shipbuilding, GPD-$375,000,000,000 USD per year
And PeZookia is...Sweden wrote:GDP (nominal) 2006 estimate
- Total $384 billion (20th)
- Per capita $47,069 (8th)
Uh...yeah? I think I already announced them training hard in Shroomania -look at the last major posrt by me in the main threadShroom Man 777 wrote: Would you want your pilots to receive homoerotic Top Gun training courtesy of the Shroomanian Air Force?
Sounds like techno to me.The Yosemite Bear wrote:hey, I'm thinking about some "less then lethal" weapons tech. Is this too Sci-fi?
basically something simular to that sonic weapon used against the somali pirates, subsonics in a focused point type broadcast that interupts the sense of balance in the innerear creating nausia, and uncoordinated movements...
No one cares about your Cultishs Zablorg, your country is a nuclear waste dump and your people are dead or talk show hosts.Zablorg wrote:Someone had better make heart-shaped grenades shortly or all the cultists are going to turn into daemon princes.
None of which stops a ship capable of handling as much as 8-10 times as much as a FCS from loading up that and stopping at all those ports while picking up intermitent cargo as well. The size is indicative of the total cargo load. The more cargo which needs to go by sea from nation to nation the more efficient it is to have large vessels which can handle everything at once.PeZook wrote:Yep - we are an archipelago world, and that means shipping to anywhere has to go by sea or air. In this situation smaller transports are the best - they can move the goods to several ports in smaller portions, right where they are needed. On Earth, most shipping moves between giant ports, out of which trucks and trains distribute the goods (and distances are vastly greater).Shroom Man 777 wrote:Note that Shroomania has had experience in outfitting vessels with anti-piracy armament and that while the FCS is a smaller vessel, it is much faster than the Wilkonian Container Transport. The FCS is great for inter-island shipping and sometimes, size isn't everything
Zablorg keeps coming back.Mr Bean wrote:No one cares about your Cultishs Zablorg, your country is a nuclear waste dump and your people are dead or talk show hosts.Zablorg wrote:Someone had better make heart-shaped grenades shortly or all the cultists are going to turn into daemon princes.
Are you addicted to this STGOD? I agree with you, and we lose less if a smaller ship is attacked by pirates.Stas Bush wrote:um... why do we need significantly bigger ships? a little bigger, yes. but really, the distance is fucking small between us, and supertankers and superbulkers are kinda pointless, when the aquatories are traversed fast.
in fact i find the size of FCS optimal
this would kill any pirate... and even kill a military ship if you can sneak on itWell, all FCS ships are armed against pirates. Untill the Libertopians start using corvettes, they're pretty safe with a well-trained crew.DarthShady wrote: I agree with you, and we lose less if a smaller ship is attacked by pirates.
Guys what are we gonna do about these pirates? Stas do you have military ships you could sell me, for next year or now?
I guess for now i could order a few of those cruisers to keep the pirates at bay.They are armed against low-grade pirates, sea-going canoe types. PT boat types, mooks with guns and RPG-7's. Sooner or later considering the number of well armed nations out there, someone's going to get ahold of some serious anti-ship missiles. And the size of the FCS means that if they take a hit, they can't both provide active damage control crews AND run the ship AND fight of the pirates coming to raid the ship.PeZook wrote: Well, all FCS ships are armed against pirates. Untill the Libertopians start using corvettes, they're pretty safe with a well-trained crew.
Of course, more active patrols would be a good thing. Thanks to our small distances and tight channels, simple commerce cutters should be good enough.
