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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 04:38pm
by Shinn Langley Soryu
What exactly does Crossroadia have in the way of, say, tactical transports, trainers, or light AWACS and maritime patrol? KyoAvi has quite a selection of cheap yet effective aircraft in its catalog that can fulfill those needs (C-27J Spartan, T-50 Golden Eagle,
Embraer R-99 family). I'm also interested in fish farming. If Crossroadia and Shroomania are cooperating on efforts in the Atlantic, I suppose Crossroadia could also back an effort by the Duchy of Langley in the Pacific...
Other stuff I'm interested in: Dominion Hawks to replace my ancient fleet of RB-57s, Chesapeake Arms Warrior personal armor kits, and Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles for evaluation by the Langley Marine Corps. Hopefully, the Old Dominion can deliver what I need.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 04:43pm
by Lonestar
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:
Other stuff I'm interested in: Dominion Hawks to replace my ancient fleet of RB-57s, Chesapeake Arms Warrior personal armor kits, and Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles for evaluation by the Langley Marine Corps. Hopefully, the Old Dominion can deliver what I need.
Verily, we can. The Warrior Kits can probably be licensed for manufacturing in your own country, the Dominion Hawks and EFVs largely depending upon how many you order(and even then it will be mostly final assembly, except for some Langley-specific stuff like comms gear).
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 05:03pm
by Shinn Langley Soryu
Lonestar wrote:Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:
Other stuff I'm interested in: Dominion Hawks to replace my ancient fleet of RB-57s, Chesapeake Arms Warrior personal armor kits, and Expeditionary Fighting Vehicles for evaluation by the Langley Marine Corps. Hopefully, the Old Dominion can deliver what I need.
Verily, we can. The Warrior Kits can probably be licensed for manufacturing in your own country, the Dominion Hawks and EFVs largely depending upon how many you order(and even then it will be mostly final assembly, except for some Langley-specific stuff like comms gear).
Licencing for Warrior kits and EFVs would be nice. However, I really don't need that many Dominion Hawks (16 Dominion Hawks at most, as opposed to at least 90 EFVs and thousands of Warrior kits), so production of those can all take place back in the OD.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 06:41pm
by Lonestar
What kind of Dominion Hawks? The BAMS model or the Ground-surveillance model?
You would probably need to break 100 EFVs to justify opening an assembly plant in Langley.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 07:35pm
by Shinn Langley Soryu
Lonestar wrote:What kind of Dominion Hawks? The BAMS model or the Ground-surveillance model?
You would probably need to break 100 EFVs to justify opening an assembly plant in Langley.
What exactly is BAMS, anyway?
I'll have to rethink the size of my order, then. Perhaps the Army could stand to benefit from a few EFVs to supplant its existing Pumas...
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 09:13pm
by Beowulf
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:Lonestar wrote:What kind of Dominion Hawks? The BAMS model or the Ground-surveillance model?
You would probably need to break 100 EFVs to justify opening an assembly plant in Langley.
What exactly is BAMS, anyway?
I'll have to rethink the size of my order, then. Perhaps the Army could stand to benefit from a few EFVs to supplant its existing Pumas...
BAMS: Broad Area Maritime Search. It uses a different radar set from the ground surveillance version, for better use against ships.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 11:22pm
by Crossroads Inc.
Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:What exactly does Crossroadia have in the way of, say, tactical transports, trainers, or light AWACS and maritime patrol? KyoAvi has quite a selection of cheap yet effective aircraft in its catalog that can fulfill those needs (C-27J Spartan, T-50 Golden Eagle,
Embraer R-99 family). I'm also interested in fish farming. If Crossroadia and Shroomania are cooperating on efforts in the Atlantic, I suppose Crossroadia could also back an effort by the Duchy of Langley in the Pacific...
Crossroadia doesn't have much in the way of it's Own military production, mostly because I personally am not military minded and don't have the right amount of detail for most things ((in a game like this, you cant just SAY you build warships, cruisers, battleships, You have to know quite a bit about them)) For the sake of Backstory we have built military items, but nowaday they are probably less advance then what most other have ((hence why re are currently revamping things)) As far as thing we DO have.. Well we have, airships, all sorts, transports, patrol, autonomous patrol ones, High attitude surveillance, and even a new uparmoured-upgunned version we've recently developed for Fingor. They might not be as 'cheap' as you are looking for, but keep in mind, you can keep them up as long as you want and there is the whole never needing an airstrip, runway or stuff like that. As far as the farming goes, I would love stuff on both sides of me.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-27 11:28pm
by CmdrWilkens
Lonestar wrote:Shroom Man 777 wrote:How much effort did you put into yours?

See, now you have to look a gift horse in the mouth by asking questions. Mostly it's "uh no Wilks we did this remember?" then he cusses me out and recompiles a new spreadsheet, then I go "just kidding."
Following up just a bit on this, there is a reason why there is an "Easy point system" in that whole mess. Just take country wealth, get points, spend. I really don't want to go uber-crazy on this but I think there are some folks who just decide "Oh I want a new toy" and decide to start building them without bothering to figure out if it is a realistic capacity.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 01:07am
by Shinn Langley Soryu
Crossroads Inc. wrote:Shinn Langley Soryu wrote:What exactly does Crossroadia have in the way of, say, tactical transports, trainers, or light AWACS and maritime patrol? KyoAvi has quite a selection of cheap yet effective aircraft in its catalog that can fulfill those needs (C-27J Spartan, T-50 Golden Eagle,
Embraer R-99 family). I'm also interested in fish farming. If Crossroadia and Shroomania are cooperating on efforts in the Atlantic, I suppose Crossroadia could also back an effort by the Duchy of Langley in the Pacific...
Crossroadia doesn't have much in the way of it's Own military production, mostly because I personally am not military minded and don't have the right amount of detail for most things ((in a game like this, you cant just SAY you build warships, cruisers, battleships, You have to know quite a bit about them)) For the sake of Backstory we have built military items, but nowaday they are probably less advance then what most other have ((hence why re are currently revamping things)) As far as thing we DO have.. Well we have, airships, all sorts, transports, patrol, autonomous patrol ones, High attitude surveillance, and even a new uparmoured-upgunned version we've recently developed for Fingor. They might not be as 'cheap' as you are looking for, but keep in mind, you can keep them up as long as you want and there is the whole never needing an airstrip, runway or stuff like that. As far as the farming goes, I would love stuff on both sides of me.
I should have clarified the wording of my post a bit. I'm not trying to buy military hardware from you; I'm trying to sell military hardware to you. As you said, Crossroadia is currently in the middle of revamping much of its armed forces; the Duchy of Langley's companies could be able to supply newly-built war materiel (like the T-50s and C-27Js I mentioned), as well as refurbish and upgrade your existing stuff (if you have a bunch of old tanks lying around, they could be made into engineering vehicles or heavy APCs, for instance).
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 01:29am
by Steve
Similarly, Boeing International also has a wide variety of both combat aircraft and airlift aircraft - analogues to the C-5, the C-130J, and best of all, all variants of the B-777-base aircraft be it the C-777 for cargo or the KC-777 for a mid-air refueler - as well as the RC-17 Sentinel coastal patrol aircraft (similar to the new P-8 Poseidon IRL).
And if you want strike fighters cheaper than 5th Gen (which are hard to get anyway) we have the SF-10D Strike Condor, the equivalent in capability to the RL F-15SG.
Actually, this makes me think. Currently most air forces are focusing on 5th Gen aircraft that are multi-role or air-superiority fighters. Will there ever be more dedicated strike aircraft in 5th Gen style or is that a role generally considered to be better suited for the multi-role 5th Gen fighters and/or longer-range smart weapons from larger bombers, naval units, and even ground-based artillery?
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 01:34am
by Steve
Oh, a quick addendum. If anyone's interested in the acquisition of a 57,500 ton conventionally-powered aircraft carrier that is 30 years old and can undergo SLEP, give me notice?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 02:10am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Crossroads, it's Byzantine. I am the Emperor of the Byzantine Empire after all.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 06:44am
by Shroom Man 777
Fin, please start showing off CATO fun stuff to the Crossroadians! We don't want to get upstaged by 'em, mangs.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 07:43am
by Shroom Man 777
THE TEACHING STICK!
My god, man. My god.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 07:44am
by Lonestar
Shroom Man 777 wrote:THE TEACHING STICK!
My god, man. My god.
We don't have time for "soft-conditioning".

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 07:45am
by Shroom Man 777
This is... this is pure motherfucking genius! Loinstar, man. Oh man.
I want your babies.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 07:51am
by PeZook
Why do I get the feeling this will backfire horribly?
I mean, Shep is gonna come out of this thing EVEN MORE fucked up than he already is. Man...
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 07:57am
by Shroom Man 777
Maybe he shall come out as a shell-shocked and ENFEEBLED wretch of a man who REALLY thinks he's Japanistani.
Hang on. When he's in Japanistan, how will he get his HERV shots?
Man, after being beaten to a bloody pulp by Deadpool, I think Sheppo would look all scarred and grizzly and shit. Then when they put him in Japanistan, they can make up a cover-story about how Shep-san was an IJA war hero who went MIA after getting ganked by machete-wielding Sumatrans (they can base Shep's backstory on the record of a Jap who REALLY got MIA'ed and killed in Sumatra). So, that would explain his wounds, his mental madness, and would make him really popular as a HERO OF THE EMPEROR or something.
By then Sheppo would be all crazy and would be shooting pregnant Sumatran comfort women (because I think Sheppy-Poo has psychosexual issues or something... come on, do we even have ANY indication that Sheppo likes the fairer sex at all? maybe some war whore with her titties carved off and replaced with cluster bomblet breast implants...), which would only impress his fellow Japanistanis and make them like him better.
EDIT:
I am doing NUERSING in a MENTAL HOSTIPAL and this is really relevant to the issue on hand!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:00am
by Lonestar
Shroom Man 777 wrote:Maybe he shall come out as a shell-shocked and ENFEEBLED wretch of a man who REALLY thinks he's Japanistani.
Hang on. When he's in Japanistan, how will he get his HERV shots?
His Robo-arm is actually going to have a couple of months of the drug built into it. Popping open the storage unit by anyone other than an authorized technician(like, say, Shep is going to gamble that someone in Japanistan will be able to study the serum and come up with a replacement in time before he runs out) will cause an automatic destruction of the serum there in.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:05am
by Shroom Man 777
How does he get... uhh... refueled?
His arm should go defective and he should go OH FUCK!
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:09am
by Lonestar
Shroom Man 777 wrote:How does he get... uhh... refueled?
His arm should go defective and he should go OH FUCK!
He will be periodically visited by an "InGen Technician" to tune-up his arm.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:23am
by MKSheppard
Shroom Man 777 wrote:THE TEACHING STICK!
My god, man. My god.
You can thank me for the Clockwork Orange style brainwashing.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:30am
by Lonestar
Steve wrote:
And if you want strike fighters cheaper than 5th Gen (which are hard to get anyway) we have the SF-10D Strike Condor, the equivalent in capability to the RL F-15SG.
Or an OD F/A-18H, which is essentially an improved SuperBug.
Actually, this makes me think. Currently most air forces are focusing on 5th Gen aircraft that are multi-role or air-superiority fighters. Will there ever be more dedicated strike aircraft in 5th Gen style or is that a role generally considered to be better suited for the multi-role 5th Gen fighters and/or longer-range smart weapons from larger bombers, naval units, and even ground-based artillery?
The OD has a UCAV that's an A-6 replacement(the MQ-47C), and as part of the program devolped a modern version of the A-12("Flying Dorito") to the point of a prototype before the MQ-47C was chosen. If anyone were interested in the A-12, I'm sure production could be started up/technical aid and support could be provided.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 08:55am
by Shroom Man 777
Shroomania has a 4++ gen F-15 ACTIVE-Stealth which is basically a
F-15 ACTIVE crossed with an
F-15 Silent Eagle - thrust-vectoring and hypermaneuverability with stealth, and the
F-16 XL which is a super-tricked out F-16 with supercruise-capable engines and enlarged wings to increase weapons carriage capacity and range.
Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX
Posted: 2009-08-28 09:01am
by PeZook
Oh, hell. I'll bite
Watch me...