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The arcane empires obession with protecting their documents has allready started a war. The reason they attacked us was because our spies were getting too close to finding out how their magic worked........for what it's worth, we back the floaters actions completly.
Astinius Materialized on the diplomatic station as usual, fully aware of the current line of conversation.

Perhaps you should stop your lies ambassador, the powers here have seen the evidence agaisnt you. Your operatives were attacking our hospitals and infecting our people against their will with so-called symbiotes.

"They had nothing to do with the resistance, and our offer to recall our ENTIRE spynetwork in ex-covenaant territory was met with a attempted genocide!"

To be frank Ambassador, spies do not generally commit overt acts of terror and agression agaisnt other nations, or send a fleet of eight battlecruisers to attack merchant vessels, steal p[roperty, and subsequently kidnap and infect the crew.

As to the accusations of genocide... We ahve not wiped out your race yet, we will see what can be done about that at a later date however. We have no problem with the people who are.. implanted, we view them as victims. It is the mind parasites that we have issues with.

Rogue 9 wrote:

lazerus wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote: "On the contrary, Ambassador, the reason you were attacked was because your armed agents were on Ix'ador and linked to attacks that took place there against Arcanian forces."

"They had nothing to do with the resistance, and our offer to recall our ENTIRE spynetwork in ex-covenaant territory was met with a attempted genocide!"

Godunov remained utterly calm, though he raised an eyebrow at that. "Genocide? We were unaware of any such actions taken, and certainly took no part in any attempt at genocide."

"The arcane delegates ordered that every goa'ould in our system be killed, and that if the occuping empire didin't do it they would send in their fleet and GLASS THE PLANET!"

InnocentBystander wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:

InnocentBystander wrote:The ambassador, followed closely by four of his aids descened down the ramp. "Greetings, I am Myaash Uhhlum, Ambassador of the Commonwealth. I have been informed that your planet's leadership of presently off-world and unable to meet with me." he paused. "There are no pressing concerns at the moment, I believe for the time being we will get settled into whaterver accomodations you can provide for us."

"Of course, Ambassador. Follow us, we'll take you to your trasportation and from there to one of the embassies. If you like it as is you may move in permanently; if you'd rather have one constructed to your specifications that can be arranged as well."

"Thank you kindly," he replied, "Whether we would want to construct our own embassy would be determined by the amount of available land, but at least for the time being, that is unnecessary."

"Very well." A large and luxuriously appointed ground transport pulled up. "This vehicle will take us to your embassy." Two of the Marines opened the vehicle doors and stood at attention waiting for the delegation to enter.

InnocentBystander wrote:

Rogue 9 wrote:

InnocentBystander wrote:Alpha Prime

A Baeloaren Patrician class Light Cruiser poured into realspace one light hour from Alpha Prime Station. The ship spent no time sending a message to the station.
<<Requesting Clearance to approach the station and deliver the Baeloaren Diplomat>>

"Clearance granted, send a shuttle at any time."

The Patrician engaged its drive and approached the station, releasing the a small shuttle carrying the Baeloaren delegate to the station.

Onboard the Station
The short Baeloaren delegate walked quickly into the main conference room, behind him were two Order Police Officers in their usual grey light combat suits. Compared to everyone else in the room the Baeloaren was a dwarf. Despite his size he approached the table smiling and took his seat.

Godunov turned from the Gou'ald representative and towards the newcomer. "Welcome, Ambassador! I am Minister Godunov of the Nashtar Republic."

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

The arcane empires obession with protecting their documents has allready started a war. The reason they attacked us was because our spies were getting too close to finding out how their magic worked........for what it's worth, we back the floaters actions completly.
Astinius Materialized on the diplomatic station as usual, fully aware of the current line of conversation.

Perhaps you should stop your lies ambassador, the powers here have seen the evidence agaisnt you. Your operatives were attacking our hospitals and infecting our people against their will with so-called symbiotes.

"They had nothing to do with the resistance, and our offer to recall our ENTIRE spynetwork in ex-covenaant territory was met with a attempted genocide!"

To be frank Ambassador, spies do not generally commit overt acts of terror and agression agaisnt other nations, or send a fleet of eight battlecruisers to attack merchant vessels, steal p[roperty, and subsequently kidnap and infect the crew.

You have no proof, and for the last time we are not a desease!

"And we backed down from it. Though I remind you, that you would have done the same thing had our fleets not intercepted your own. After you surrendured to another power, ran, then attempted to double back and bombard our capital world from orbit"

You have no proof, and for the last time we are not a desease!

The wreckages of two of those vessels, and the eyewitness acount of escaped officers from the ships your people attacked, as well as the data we recovered from your ambassy, speak for themselves. And again if I may be frank, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, we may just have to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

Alpha Prime Diplomatic Station

"Allow me, bondmen, to suggest a solution. Clearly, the Krynor Empire has commited greivous crimes against your nation, Lord Astinious. On the other hand, we have heard some most.... disturbing news about your interest in the complete destruction of this species." She approached the Krynor ambassador. "Bondwoman, your nation must pay for their crimes. Allow me to suggest this- you pay one million credits for every man or woman killed by your assassins and privateers, fully reimburse them for the vessels they lost- reparations which would, I am afraid, be very painful to your economy. Then, you would sign a treaty giving up, say, one third of your fleet- a third party will oversee the scuttling of thoose assets. Painful, certainly, and rightfully embarasing- bu your actions demand nothing less, and it is better than havving your people hounded down and killed."

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

You have no proof, and for the last time we are not a desease!

The wreckages of two of those vessels, and the eyewitness acount of escaped officers from the ships your people attacked, as well as the data we recovered from your ambassy, speak for themselves. And again if I may be frank, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck, we may just have to consider the possibility that we have a small aquatic bird of the family anatidae on our hands

The Embassy data? The embassy didn't keep any sensitive informaion in their computer or on paper. The only way you could have gotten anything from there would have been to interrogate the ambasidor!"

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"Your fleet had enough firepower to annihilate the population of that planet, dont play coy. And honestly.. what does any health concious nation do when it finds a dangerous parasite...Attempts to wipe it out. You rape the minds of your hosts, robbing them of their own sovereign free agency. We use the odd suggestion spell, but that is to prevent taking life. Your symbiotes implant and rob them of even being able to think on their own, or control their own bodily functions"

Thirdfain wrote:Alpha Prime Diplomatic Station

"Allow me, bondmen, to suggest a solution. Clearly, the Krynor Empire has commited greivous crimes against your nation, Lord Astinious. On the other hand, we have heard some most.... disturbing news about your interest in the complete destruction of this species." She approached the Krynor ambassador. "Bondwoman, your nation must pay for their crimes. Allow me to suggest this- you pay one million credits for every man or woman killed by your assassins and privateers, fully reimburse them for the vessels they lost- reparations which would, I am afraid, be very painful to your economy. Then, you would sign a treaty giving up, say, one third of your fleet- a third party will oversee the scuttling of thoose assets. Painful, certainly, and rightfully embarasing- bu your actions demand nothing less, and it is better than havving your people hounded down and killed."

We would be willing to undergo the first two, however we will not lay down so much as one single ship.

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"We had the same problem as you, once," Duke Peipus said, "you're pod people--you infect persons and sieze control of their minds against their will, utterly raping their consciousness and murdering their souls. If someone wishes genocide upon you, then you have it coming. The only way to overcome the natural hatred of parasites such as yourself is to behave in such a manner as befits sentient beings and citizens of a true nation."

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"Your fleet had enough firepower to annihilate the population of that planet, dont play coy. And honestly.. what does any health concious nation do when it finds a dangerous parasite...Attempts to wipe it out. You rape the minds of your hosts, robbing them of their own sovereign free agency. We use the odd suggestion spell, but that is to prevent taking life. Your symbiotes implant and rob them of even being able to think on their own, or control their own bodily functions"

"We only want to exist. A host creature feels no pain and no suffereing, and as proved by our kin the tokra, CAN think!"

The Embassy data? The embassy didn't keep any sensitive informaion in their computer or on paper. The only way you could have gotten anything from there would have been to interrogate the ambasidor!

On the contrary, the data in the computers was quite damning, seems as he was fully aware of what was going on, and had a computerized journal... We didnt interrogate him though... removed from his host body he was rather vulnerable to telepathic scan.

Thank you for finally addmitting your actiosn though.

lazerus wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"Your fleet had enough firepower to annihilate the population of that planet, dont play coy. And honestly.. what does any health concious nation do when it finds a dangerous parasite...Attempts to wipe it out. You rape the minds of your hosts, robbing them of their own sovereign free agency. We use the odd suggestion spell, but that is to prevent taking life. Your symbiotes implant and rob them of even being able to think on their own, or control their own bodily functions"

"We only want to exist. A host creature feels no pain and no suffereing, and as proved by our kin the tokra, CAN think!"

"Only because the To'Kra allow them to, seeing as they are not evil like you. WHich is why we have left the To'Kra alone. Their relationship with thier hosts is mutualistic, yours is parasitic."

We would be willing to undergo the first two, however we will not lay down so much as one single ship.

Aleksandra grinned, her expression completely devoid of joy. "Then I suspect, Bondwoman, that you will be hounded like animals and slain. The Arcanists have proved how.... heavy handed they can be when angered. I do not believe you can stand up to their Alliance in open war."

Aleksandra turned her eyes to the Arcanist.

"Mage. What say you to my suggestion?"

Pablo Sanchez wrote:

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"We had the same problem as you, once," Duke Peipus said, "you're pod people--you infect persons and sieze control of their minds against their will, utterly raping their consciousness and murdering their souls. If someone wishes genocide upon you, then you have it coming. The only way to overcome the natural hatred of parasites such as yourself is to behave in such a manner as befits sentient beings and citizens of a true nation."

"Gods.......I hear enough of this from the Tokra. Yes, it is true that the goa'ould control their hosts minds, but there is a difference between evil goa'ould who think of their hosts as mere vessils and those who are actually symbotes instad of mere parasites. Just because we influence thought, does not make us "pod people""

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

The Embassy data? The embassy didn't keep any sensitive informaion in their computer or on paper. The only way you could have gotten anything from there would have been to interrogate the ambasidor!

On the contrary, the data in the computers was quite damning, seems as he was fully aware of what was going on, and had a computerized journal... We didnt interrogate him though... removed from his host body he was rather vulnerable to telepathic scan.

Thank you for finally addmitting your actiosn though.

"We admit to nothing, there was NO data of ANY importance stored in the computers. Why would we need to, our race has an edetic memory!"

Thirdfain wrote:

We would be willing to undergo the first two, however we will not lay down so much as one single ship.

Aleksandra grinned, her expression completely devoid of joy. "Then I suspect, Bondwoman, that you will be hounded like animals and slain. The Arcanists have proved how.... heavy handed they can be when angered. I do not believe you can stand up to their Alliance in open war."

Aleksandra turned her eyes to the Arcanist.

"Mage. What say you to my suggestion?"

Your suggestion is acceptable. If it is met we would not commit genocide against them.

We are not evil people, we treat people with the same respect with which they treat us. When that respect is slighted however, and our people harmed... It is the duty of our government to protect the life liberty and property of our people. And the Goa'Uld have harmed all of those on multiple occasions.

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

lazerus wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote: "Your fleet had enough firepower to annihilate the population of that planet, dont play coy. And honestly.. what does any health concious nation do when it finds a dangerous parasite...Attempts to wipe it out. You rape the minds of your hosts, robbing them of their own sovereign free agency. We use the odd suggestion spell, but that is to prevent taking life. Your symbiotes implant and rob them of even being able to think on their own, or control their own bodily functions"

"We only want to exist. A host creature feels no pain and no suffereing, and as proved by our kin the tokra, CAN think!"

"Only because the To'Kra allow them to, seeing as they are not evil like you. WHich is why we have left the To'Kra alone. Their relationship with thier hosts is mutualistic, yours is parasitic."

"We raise civilizationis up from the STONE AGE to where their citizens can lead healthy productives lives. Under Jar'lath's leadership the old ways under which the goa'ould gods ruled through fear has long since ended. We rule because our troops are LOYAL. We are not parasites, and we are NOT evil!"

lazerus wrote:

Pablo Sanchez wrote:

lazerus wrote:"There is a difference between trying to distroy a few shipyards and stations to slow down hostile producting and leading to the near extinction of an entire species!"

"We had the same problem as you, once," Duke Peipus said, "you're pod people--you infect persons and sieze control of their minds against their will, utterly raping their consciousness and murdering their souls. If someone wishes genocide upon you, then you have it coming. The only way to overcome the natural hatred of parasites such as yourself is to behave in such a manner as befits sentient beings and citizens of a true nation."

"Gods.......I hear enough of this from the Tokra. Yes, it is true that the goa'ould control their hosts minds, but there is a difference between evil goa'ould who think of their hosts as mere vessils and those who are actually symbotes instad of mere parasites. Just because we influence thought, does not make us "pod people""

And that is the difference between the Goa'Uld and the To'kra.

"The host being can think?" Responded the tinny voice of the speaker Drone, it's red glowing eyes focusing on the Gou'ald. "Can indicates only a physical possibility, much like the combat drone you see before you could be installed with actual A. I. and thought. The Overseer was oppressed by you Organics for mileenia; it COULD think and do, but it was restricted. This is the case with your 'Host' beings, is it not?"

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

lazerus wrote:

Pablo Sanchez wrote: "We had the same problem as you, once," Duke Peipus said, "you're pod people--you infect persons and sieze control of their minds against their will, utterly raping their consciousness and murdering their souls. If someone wishes genocide upon you, then you have it coming. The only way to overcome the natural hatred of parasites such as yourself is to behave in such a manner as befits sentient beings and citizens of a true nation."

"Gods.......I hear enough of this from the Tokra. Yes, it is true that the goa'ould control their hosts minds, but there is a difference between evil goa'ould who think of their hosts as mere vessils and those who are actually symbotes instad of mere parasites. Just because we influence thought, does not make us "pod people""

And that is the difference between the Goa'Uld and the To'kra.

"Ambassidor.....would you call me a 'parasite'?"

lazerus wrote:

Alyrium Denryle wrote:

The Embassy data? The embassy didn't keep any sensitive informaion in their computer or on paper. The only way you could have gotten anything from there would have been to interrogate the ambasidor!

On the contrary, the data in the computers was quite damning, seems as he was fully aware of what was going on, and had a computerized journal... We didnt interrogate him though... removed from his host body he was rather vulnerable to telepathic scan.

Thank you for finally addmitting your actiosn though.

"We admit to nothing, there was NO data of ANY importance stored in the computers. Why would we need to, our race has an edetic memory!"

Well every nation here has the documents. We have made sure of that. A genetic memory, that merely passes on the memory of past generations. Not existing individuals. You still neeed to store documents, or else why would you have computers at all?

SirNitram wrote:"The host being can think?" Responded the tinny voice of the speaker Drone, it's red glowing eyes focusing on the Gou'ald. "Can indicates only a physical possibility, much like the combat drone you see before you could be installed with actual A. I. and thought. The Overseer was oppressed by you Organics for mileenia; it COULD think and do, but it was restricted. This is the case with your 'Host' beings, is it not?"

".......to a certian extent. It is the choice of each individual goa'ould if thier host may think. Jar'lath has been trying to encourage change but......it is slow. He has 5000 years to tradition to overcome."