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Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 09:02am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 09:04am
by Lonestar
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!
ITT we learn that while Zombies and Vampires are acceptable, Clockwork Orange is not. :D

And technically, it isn't brainwashing, it's conditioning. This is not The Shroomchurian Candidate.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 10:37am
by Shroom Man 777
It's basically teaching Sheppo Japanistani table manners in the most asshole sadistic way possible? :lol:

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 12:12pm
by Lonestar
I love how Fin is basically re-inventing the wheel there. The Old Dominion began to transition to an alcohol-economy in the first thread. :D

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 12:15pm
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Lonestar wrote:I love how Fin is basically re-inventing the wheel there. The Old Dominion began to transition to an alcohol-economy in the first thread. :D
Erm. I stated from the start that I was pushing algae based biofuels from the first thread. Moreover a law was passed years ago dictating the need for 25% biofuel composition.

And unlike some people, I like to be realistic on research timings, and I don't like to pretend things can appear at a fickle of a thumb.. like hoping that say polywell can turn in net power production and that say 3He fusion can be achieved within a decade that easily.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 12:40pm
by PeZook
There! Buy our stuff! BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 01:53pm
by Steve
Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 02:29pm
by RogueIce
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
F-35! Buy it now! Well, I know you have, but Crossroads should as well. 5th gen, for export! Carrier, CTOL, and STOVL.
Lonestar wrote:the MQ-47C
Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 03:06pm
by Steve
RogueIce wrote:
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
F-35! Buy it now! Well, I know you have, but Crossroads should as well. 5th gen, for export! Carrier, CTOL, and STOVL.
You mean the MSF-15N. :wink:

Granted, the RCAF did it's own thing and developed the ASF-18 and ASF-20 (based on the XF-32 and YF-23 respectively) in the time frame of the late late 90s to 2012.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 04:18pm
by Lonestar
RogueIce wrote: Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).
And AV-35 :)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-28 10:59pm
by TimothyC
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
Remember Steve, the Pacunion has a baby UCAV program (or atleast Alaska did)

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 12:06am
by Steve
MariusRoi wrote:
Steve wrote:Bah, damned UCAVs. What is this, Ace Combat 3?! :P
Remember Steve, the Pacunion has a baby UCAV program (or atleast Alaska did)
Probably got folded into the new PacUnion Defense Department.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 12:08am
by Beowulf
Lonestar wrote:
RogueIce wrote: Beowulf will be along shortly to kill you for not referring to it as the MQ-19. :D

(I wouldn't worry though; I already make him twitch over my F/A-35 :twisted: ).
And AV-35 :)
I won't kill you. If I do that, you can't learn. *breaks out the teaching sticks*
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:And unlike some people, I like to be realistic on research timings, and I don't like to pretend things can appear at a fickle of a thumb.. like hoping that say polywell can turn in net power production and that say 3He fusion can be achieved within a decade that easily.
People much smarter than me believe that polywell can manage to achieve break-even fusion. The real EMC2 corporation believes that it has sufficient knowledge of the scaling factors to be able to do it right now if they could get the funding. The USN has given funding as well as $2 million in the stimulus act. The proposed method to avoid neutron activation is not He3, but rather PB11 fusion. In game, they got a lot higher funding, and were able to demonstrate the technology sooner.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 12:58am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Beowulf wrote:People much smarter than me believe that polywell can manage to achieve break-even fusion. The real EMC2 corporation believes that it has sufficient knowledge of the scaling factors to be able to do it right now if they could get the funding. The USN has given funding as well as $2 million in the stimulus act. The proposed method to avoid neutron activation is not He3, but rather PB11 fusion. In game, they got a lot higher funding, and were able to demonstrate the technology sooner.
3He doesn't produce neutrons, it produces protons which can be contained a lot more adequately. Proton-Boron on the other hand needs much higher temperatures to get there. That doesn't imply, that the technology is capable of scaling up to the levels required to provide net fusion and no where have they come close. So far, Polywell has shown to be an efficient neutron producer at the small scale. I'd wait for whether they would even succeed with a larger device.

Polywell is just a glorified Penning Ion Trap (which I bet you don't even know what the hell that is) with very tight confinement and deep trap depth. But ion traps (or at least the small Pauli ones I have seen and worked) have been known to have very queer habits at the extreme scales which is why work on micro traps continues at NIST and they aren't even perfected yet. Worst still you are now talking about a large plasma which exerts a huge magnetic field and electric field and scaling that up means a correspondingly larger. And then in turn a fething large faraday cage.

Science is littered with too many optimists and too many good salesmen, and too many damn simulations that have a knack for missing important perimeters. String theory was all the rage 10 years ago, and hey look, nothing much has been achieved beyond some optimistic projections and a few very good salesmen overselling the damn science and screwing over too many graduate students who probably are better off as mathematicians rather than physicists (and many are probably biophysicists right now).

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 12:04pm
by Lonestar
PeZook wrote:There! Buy our stuff! BUY IT RIGHT NOW!!!
Looks liek you've been doing some industrial espionage for mah MQ-8D :(

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 02:50pm
by PeZook
Of course :D

But seriously, I had no idea you were using the same pic, so I guess it's just a similar thingy developed independently.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-29 02:53pm
by Lonestar
PeZook wrote:Of course :D

But seriously, I had no idea you were using the same pic, so I guess it's just a similar thingy developed independently.

The problem is that there are only so many pictures out there...

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 12:07am
by Ryan Thunder
Lonestar wrote:
Fingolfin_Noldor wrote:Eh.. What the heck? What kind of brainwashing technique is this? Does it even work?!
ITT we learn that while Zombies and Vampires are acceptable, Clockwork Orange is not. :D
Whoever said they were acceptable, either? :roll:

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 01:27am
by Steve
Well, our first mod opened the door to a particular kind of vampire, and then everyone decided to do the "rage Virus" stuff as well....

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 01:55am
by Fingolfin_Noldor
Steve wrote:Well, our first mod opened the door to a particular kind of vampire, and then everyone decided to do the "rage Virus" stuff as well....
Well, if this "pulling out of the hat" continues, what next? A rage virus that spreads through air?

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 02:07am
by Steve
Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?

And I did try to argue against it but Shroom and a couple others had to have their RAGE ZOMBIES and stuff. :P

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 08:08am
by Siege
Steve wrote:Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?
Err, no?

There's the Astarian zombie fever pathogen, which insofar as I know is supposed to be born of the mix of chemical and biological cocktails in which Astaria was showered but which isn't airborne, and there's the U4 substance developed by SinTEK, which is a chemical weapon, not a virus.

People seem to use 'rage zombie' to refer to both, but U4 doesn't turn people into 'zombies', it turns them hyperaggressive for a while but as PeZook's post shows its effects wear off after a while.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 08:29am
by Lonestar
Ryan Thunder wrote: Whoever said they were acceptable, either? :roll:
ITT we also learn that Ryan doesn't fucking read the STGOD threads worth a damn.

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 08:51am
by Shroom Man 777
Steve wrote:Isn't that what the one everyone talks about does?

And I did try to argue against it but Shroom and a couple others had to have their RAGE ZOMBIES and stuff. :P
Rage "zombies" are basically just people with SUPER RABIES who impulsively try to infect others by means of biting them and transmitting PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS. If it can happen to dogs and other animuls, why not people? Of course, since it's like a bioweapon or something, its virulence would be higher - meaning the infection would take effect faster and would be more contagious.

It doesn't bring the dead back to life at all. Compared to this vampire cyborg werewolf chopper dave stuff, this is downright realistic. :P

EDIT:

Hey, does anyone know what kind of 1960s-era Soviet fighter plane could be plausibly repurposed for carrier aviation? Stas has suggested the MiG-19, but I want MOAR!

Re: SD.Net World Redux Comment Thread IX

Posted: 2009-08-30 01:20pm
by Siege
Lonestar, that's brilliant. An attack by "somebody from the North" :D.